Quitting is not a safe alternative to smoking

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I used to hang out in the smoking area at work years ago with a guy in his 50's. He claimed he had been told by his doctor that he shouldn't quit smoking in his 50's. Supposedly research showed that people who quit in their 50's suffered high blood pressure and the increased likelihood of a heart attack outweighed the benefits of not smoking. The doctor told him he should wait until he passed 60. I'm pretty sure he pulled that out of his .... My assessment is partly based on the army stories he used to tell. I heard he was the one who taught the Navy Seals how to swim properly.

So, if you see something that's obvious BS there's really no point in trying to figure out where it came from. The FDA say stuff like that because they can get away with it.
 
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My worker quit smoking and drinking and started vaping on December 25th. He passed away of a major heart attack three days later. We carried a furnace out of a house that afternoon and I said to him you are huffing. He told me he has to get back in shape again. He passed away at 10:30 pm that night. Said nothing to his wife and phone still in cradle two feet away from him. 53 years young.
 

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My worker quit smoking and drinking and started vaping on December 25th. He passed away of a major heart attack three days later. We carried a furnace out of a house that afternoon and I said to him you are huffing. He told me he has to get back in shape again. He passed away at 10:30 pm that night. Said nothing to his wife and phone still in cradle two feet away from him. 53 years young.
Im sorry to hear that, thoughts go out to his loved ones. Stopping like that can be a shock to the system, we always hear of this happening. Tragic.
 

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I used to hang out in the smoking area at work years ago with a guy in his 50's. He claimed he had been told by his doctor that he shouldn't quit smoking in his 50's. Supposedly research showed that people who quit in their 50's suffered high blood pressure and the increased likelihood of a heart attack outweighed the benefits of not smoking. The doctor told him he should wait until he passed 60. I'm pretty sure he pulled that out of his ***. My assessment is partly based on the army stories he used to tell. I heard he was the one who taught the Navy Seals how to swim properly.

So, if you see something that's obvious BS there's really no point in trying to figure out where it came from. The FDA say stuff like that because they can get away with it.
Hmmm you had me there for a moment.

I quit when I was 49 going on 50 and out of nowhere a year after quitting and into my 50's and my blood pressure was often around 186/150 and my cardiologist was surprised I've either not had a heart attack or kidney failure. Who would have thunk it from quitting smoking. LOL

And then there is my friend on the East coast, he and his wife both quit smoking in their late 40's and one day last year his wife came home from work, walked across the living room floor and died mid step half way across the room. No heart attack, no stroke, she just simply died. Hmmm, vaping problem? I tend to think not.

The only thing I get from my new doctor now, is when I told him that I quit smoking cigarettes after 32 years of smoking them, but I do now vape a little..... He says "you gotta cut that .... out too".
 

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My grandfather drank about a cup of coffee every hour he was awake and in his late 60s my grandmother switched his coffee to decaf and he had a stroke a week into it. When you're addicted to an upper for so long, it's not unimaginable that cutting it off completely can have negative side effects since your body basically grew around the stimulant and requires it to function. On a side note she forfeit his pension to reverse his dnr and he was paralyzed and thought he was still in ww2 on his good days.
 

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I used to hang out in the smoking area at work years ago with a guy in his 50's. He claimed he had been told by his doctor that he shouldn't quit smoking in his 50's.

I think you are right about this guy pulling this advice from a Dr. out of his nether regions! I don't think any physician would tell someone not to quit smoking no matter what their age or health conditions. If someone has heard of or knows a Dr. that has given the advice NOT to quit smoking, I'd really love to know and then find out where they got their medical degree from LOL.
 

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Snus is not a safe alternative its saying. As it still has a decent level of nitrosamine.
Safer yes but safe no, atleast not from an american tobacco company. Although snus is alot better then snuff or the powdered stuff.

I imagine you are right, that it's safer but not completely safe. Though from what I've read Snus has a pretty good record. Smokey Joe posted something on that topic.

Going back to the OP, would anyone make the statement that smoking 1 cig a day is not a safe alternative to smoking a pack a day? Maybe it's true that smoking 1 a day still carries some risk. But it's going to be a much smaller risk. The FDA chose to use the words it used. It could have chosen to put on the label that Snus is considerably less dangerous that smoking, but still carries some risk. The words they chose IMO are intentionally deceptive, since to someone not familiar with the research they clearly suggest that it is not safer.
 

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The words they chose IMO are intentionally deceptive, since to someone not familiar with the research they clearly suggest that it is not safer.

And now we know very clearly what FDA is up to regarding "tobacco products".

Maybe we should also come up with a list of ridiculous yet true statements about them.
 

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And now we know very clearly what FDA is up to regarding "tobacco products". Maybe we should also come up with a list of ridiculous yet true statements about them.

You mean like when they banned Joe Camel from being used as a mascot saying that "such a cute animal" was enticing children to smoke?
 

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So, statistically speaking, the average IQ of an FDA drone, er, employee will be around 75.

This brings to mind the old adage: "Never argue with an idiot - they will drag you down to their level and beat you to death with experience."

Permitting a corrupt and runaway government is not a safe alternative...
 

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I used to hang out in the smoking area at work years ago with a guy in his 50's. He claimed he had been told by his doctor that he shouldn't quit smoking in his 50's. Supposedly research showed that people who quit in their 50's suffered high blood pressure and the increased likelihood of a heart attack outweighed the benefits of not smoking. The doctor told him he should wait until he passed 60. I'm pretty sure he pulled that out of his ***. My assessment is partly based on the army stories he used to tell. I heard he was the one who taught the Navy Seals how to swim properly.

So, if you see something that's obvious BS there's really no point in trying to figure out where it came from. The FDA say stuff like that because they can get away with it.

Actually my doctor also told me that I needed to be careful about quitting at my age as well, and also do to other health concerns (I'm type 2 diabetic). He stated the same reasons, elevated blood pressure, possibility of heart attack, and a number of other possible negative side effects. He doesn't know I quit yet... I have my next regular check up at the end of July and will be telling him I started vaping then.
 

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Actually my doctor also told me that I needed to be careful about quitting at my age as well, and also do to other health concerns (I'm type 2 diabetic). He stated the same reasons, elevated blood pressure, possibility of heart attack, and a number of other possible negative side effects. He doesn't know I quit yet... I have my next regular check up at the end of July and will be telling him I started vaping then.

Well I'll be blowed. I always assumed that guy was feeding me BS when he said his doctor told him not to quit until he hit 60. From what you say, and some other people here as well, maybe I was wrong about that.

That might only apply to cold turkey. The nicotine from vaping could negate the blood pressure problem. Hope that works for you.
 
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