r dna 200 users SOL?

[JBrentonK]

So for most dna 200 users (as far as I've checked from the "dna 200" manuel), you can't build below whatever your company packed in your package, and this is specifically intended towards those who can't build below .1 ohm. So that really stinks, I heard somewhere someone said that you could adjust it to where it would give you different "max watts" for several different settings of ohm resistances. How do I do this for my vt200, ... anybody?

Or am I just "SOL"?

 

[KenD]

So for most dna 200 users (as far as I've checked from the "dna 200" manuel), you can't build below whatever your company packed in your package, and this is specifically intended towards those who can't build below .1 ohm. So that really stinks, I heard somewhere someone said that you could adjust it to where it would give you different "max watts" for several different settings of ohm resistances. How do I do this for my vt200, ... anybody?

Or am I just "SOL"?

I'm not 100% sure I get you, but it's about the minimum resistance you can fire a DNA 200, right? The dna 200 will fire below .1 ohms. It doesn't have a set limit but when you get low enough it won't fire at full power. I don't understand why you would ever want to build that low though.

Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk

 

[puffon]

I heard somewhere someone said that you could adjust it to where it would give you different "max watts" for several different settings of ohm resistances. How do I do this for my vt200, ... anybody?

I don't have a DNA200, but I think you can make those adjustments through the Escribe software?

 

[Tagi]

Not sure either but it sounds like your saying the Mod maker is setting a minimum resistance the mod can fire. There is not a setting in Escribe for that and even if there was all you would have to do is go in and remove it.

edit - to change max watts go in escribe and change the max watts setting. In Escribe its called Kanthal Power limit. It is under the Mod tab

 

[JBrentonK]

Thanks guys for responding to me.

Yes it's about that "building low" aspect to most mods. You'd expect to get your moneys worth with a 200$ device, or 150$ with the vt200, but I thought it would be best to state the obvious. Not being able to fire super-sub ohm coils (aka 0.08) is pretty rediculious since that's what I've noticed most people would prefer to vape at.

Me included, although I haven't been vaping this low for very long now, 0.15 ohm just does not work for me and I am seeking the option to produce a relatively greater amount of vapor.

Is it true that you can build below .1 ohm on DNA 200s, as you said? I read at the store I bought it from it fires to a minimum of .1 resistance. I did hear that it regulates the power depending on the # of the ohms though, I think from rip trippers. Is this true for my vt200? And why do some dna 200s leave people in the dark with super sub ohming? Any ideas?

 

[KenD]

Thanks guys for responding to me.

Yes it's about that "building low" aspect to most mods. You'd expect to get your moneys worth with a 200$ device, or 150$ with the vt200, but I thought it would be best to state the obvious. Not being able to fire super-sub ohm coils (aka 0.08) is pretty rediculious since that's what I've noticed most people would prefer to vape at.

Me included, although I haven't been vaping this low for very long now, 0.15 ohm just does not work for me and I am seeking the option to produce a relatively greater amount of vapor.

Is it true that you can build below .1 ohm on DNA 200s, as you said? I read at the store I bought it from it fires to a minimum of .1 resistance. I did hear that it regulates the power depending on the # of the ohms though, I think from rip trippers. Is this true for my vt200? And why do some dna 200s leave people in the dark with super sub ohming? Any ideas?

If I remember correctly, .1 is the resistance that the dna200 will be able to fire the full 200w at (0.05 in tc mode). Below that you'll not get full power. Still, unless you're dealing with ni200 or some other really low resistance material, I don't understand why you'd want to use coils that low. On a regulated device there simply isn't much benefit to it, and a lot of downsides (less surface area, long heat-up and cool-down, decreased battery runtime due to the added power needed to fire thick coils). Why do you want to go that low?

Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk

 

[Tagi]

Thanks guys for responding to me.

Yes it's about that "building low" aspect to most mods. You'd expect to get your moneys worth with a 200$ device, or 150$ with the vt200, but I thought it would be best to state the obvious. Not being able to fire super-sub ohm coils (aka 0.08) is pretty rediculious since that's what I've noticed most people would prefer to vape at.

Me included, although I haven't been vaping this low for very long now, 0.15 ohm just does not work for me and I am seeking the option to produce a relatively greater amount of vapor.

Is it true that you can build below .1 ohm on DNA 200s, as you said? I read at the store I bought it from it fires to a minimum of .1 resistance. I did hear that it regulates the power depending on the # of the ohms though, I think from rip trippers. Is this true for my vt200? And why do some dna 200s leave people in the dark with super sub ohming? Any ideas?

The DNA 200 does not leave anyone in the dark. Its a regulated mod. The max voltage output is 9 volts. It has an extremely low minimum resistance before it pops up the short error. I don't remember what it was, I think it was Pbasardo that tested it but it was lower then .05.

From a purely technical aspect, as long as it fires and does not display the shorted message it will fire up to a max of 9 volts or 200 watts whichever limit is hit first.

Forget about what anyone has said about this chip and read the specs. Its all there. It is a little vague about the minimum resistance. otherwise all other info is clear.

http://evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna200.pdf

Not sure why there's a trend to build to MAX out your device, all this equates to is VERY bad battery life.

If your cloud chasing then your trying to brute force it. There is an art to tweeking your builds. seek balance in all things in the set up for maximizing cloud production.

The same thing goes for the vapor that just likes a hot vape. 150+ watts and a Dangerously low resistance build is not required and is terribly inefficient.

 

[JBrentonK]

If I remember correctly, .1 is the resistance that the dna200 will be able to fire the full 200w at (0.05 in tc mode). Below that you'll not get full power. Still, unless you're dealing with ni200 or some other really low resistance material, I don't understand why you'd want to use coils that low. On a regulated device there simply isn't much benefit to it, and a lot of downsides (less surface area, long heat-up and cool-down, decreased battery runtime due to the added power needed to fire thick coils). Why do you want to go that low?

Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk

Thanks for reassuring me they are NOT sol... I'll explain how I feel about that...:

I get a lot of premade coils and even coils that I build that are usually around 2 ohm, and some of them even at .15 ohm, produce decent amount of vapor. But it is nothing fantismal, there is simply not enough vapor being produced to allow me to feel as if I am vaping a "sub ohm" kind of ordeal. Now, honestly I don't understand why you ask, because if I want the decent amount of vapor I have to go with more power. Obviously too one of the reasons this was posed that they are "SOL": Most good mods fire down to .05 which is a lot more power than .15, as I see it anyway and I've been vaping for about a full year now too.

So I need the power, .05 seems like a hell of a lot more power than .15, and also I've never vaped below .1 ohm. So you tell me then: Why vape below .1 ohm?

Is it just to get a kick?... Or as I see it, do the .1+ ohm setups really kind of tend to start reminding oneself of "tootlepuffers" in general.... lol

 

[Scy123]

So for most dna 200 users (as far as I've checked from the "dna 200" manuel), you can't build below whatever your company packed in your package, and this is specifically intended towards those who can't build below .1 ohm.

I read somewhere that the DNA200 will fire just about anything. Including a screwdriver stuck in the 510.

From Personal experience it fires my .046 fine.

 

[rice721]

Thanks guys for responding to me.

Yes it's about that "building low" aspect to most mods. You'd expect to get your moneys worth with a 200$ device, or 150$ with the vt200, but I thought it would be best to state the obvious. Not being able to fire super-sub ohm coils (aka 0.08) is pretty rediculious since that's what I've noticed most people would prefer to vape at.

Me included, although I haven't been vaping this low for very long now, 0.15 ohm just does not work for me and I am seeking the option to produce a relatively greater amount of vapor.

Is it true that you can build below .1 ohm on DNA 200s, as you said? I read at the store I bought it from it fires to a minimum of .1 resistance. I did hear that it regulates the power depending on the # of the ohms though, I think from rip trippers. Is this true for my vt200? And why do some dna 200s leave people in the dark with super sub ohming? Any ideas?

Can you tell us where you have the notion that most of us would prefer to vape at sub 0.1ohm?

Does lower ohms mean more vapor more flavor? To a certain point the benefit of low resistance tapers off...

I have 2 DNA200 devices (well 1 DNA133), I have other mods that fire up to 200w, 75w, 60w, 40w, with my current setup I've never found the need to ever go past 100W...

So you vape at 10,000 watts...that makes you pro?

 

[JBrentonK]

Can you tell us where you have the notion that most of us would prefer to vape at sub 0.1ohm?

Does lower ohms mean more vapor more flavor? To a certain point the benefit of low resistance tapers off...

I have 2 DNA200 devices (well 1 DNA133), I have other mods that fire up to 200w, 75w, 60w, 40w, with my current setup I've never found the need to ever go past 100W...

So you vape at 10,000 watts...that makes you pro?

Friend, I wish you knew, I am not trying to offend. (you will continue with that notion)

As I so elequoently explained a minute ago, if you "tootlepuff", you just don't get it, and must think that when the Indians smoked, they didn't "tootlepuff" (aka smoke aka vape aka take it like a man and define it as the art that it is...). You must think that when you vape a 1.5 ohm coil, and it produces mass vapor, you are cool, because you are truly "smoking" (/vaping). You must think, that when you vape a .5 ohm coil, you are truly vaping, because that's just how you roll dawg.

But in reality, .5 ohm is sometimes far too little vapor, .25 is just about the same, and .15 ohm pushes tootlepuffing realms. So you don't like your realms & you don't know anything about smoking/vaping. That is definitely my problem! But nonethe lest, you should at least know most people don't like tootlepuff vaping, and that this "fine art" as you so elequoently call it is not a fine art above these levels.

So you like to vape? So yeah, like tell us what you like to vape, then we can decide if you're just another of the tootlepuffers, who believes they're vaping when they're really just "smoking vapor"....

Give me a break chap!!!

 

[Scy123]

Why are you talking about ohms like it means something? It's all about the watts.

I vape 1.2ohm at 50 watts and it's the same as my other tank with .042ohms at 50 watts.

 

[JBrentonK]

LOL you vape 1.2 ohms at 50 watts?! Can I even trust what you say? No, seriously what are you using? Please tell me? Hello. 50 watts on a itsey bitsey little wire? You don't say....

 

[Scy123]

What exactly is wrong with me vaping 50w with smaller wire? Please share.

It vapes exactly the same as my .042ohm build.

Can we trust what you say?

 

[herb]

Not being able to fire super-sub ohm coils (aka 0.08) is pretty rediculious since that's what I've noticed most people would prefer to vape at.

Me included, although I haven't been vaping this low for very long now, 0.15 ohm just does not work for me and I am seeking the option to produce a relatively greater amount of vapor.

Is it true that you can build below .1 ohm on DNA 200s, as you said? I read at the store I bought it from it fires to a minimum of .1 resistance. I did hear that it regulates the power depending on the # of the ohms though, I think from rip trippers. Is this true for my vt200? And why do some dna 200s leave people in the dark with super sub ohming? Any ideas?

I don't know what people your hanging out with but the overwhelming majority of vapors do not even sub ohm let alone go as low as humanly possible . The DNA 200 is not built specifically for super low sub ohming .

If you want max clouds and low builds a mechanical is a great choice . The DNA 200 devices have great flexibility is why they are so popular .

 

[JBrentonK]

I told you guys you'd start calling me an outcast or a violent raving rabbit of some sort... I am really starting to believe you when you ask if you don't know if you can trust what I say.... Man you guys really are wacky!!!

I'm sorry Scy123, either you're lying, or you're one of those people who likes to ruin your coils way too fast so that you inhale an incredible amount of burnt kanthal, so you can try to poison yourself. Is it really you that we can trust? How about one of the other posters who just likely yposted before I made this post. Well, if you guys really believe it is HUMANLY POSSIBLE to vape 1.2 ohm coils at 50 watts, I'm not saying you're insane, I am just saying I personally from experience KNOW that it is fundamentally, invincibably IMPOSSIBLE.

So if you have anyting else to say, before you call me a fanatic or something else, like the 99.89^% of the majority of people do.

 

[JBrentonK]

Herb, I hate to interrupt, but if you have anything to say to the above.... ^^^...

Mechs are too dangerous. Only people who believe in untrustworthy and completely replicatable devices would trust one.

 

[Scy123]

Well, if you guys really believe it is HUMANLY POSSIBLE to vape 1.2 ohm coils at 50 watts, I'm not saying you're insane, I am just saying I personally from experience KNOW that it is fundamentally, invincibably IMPOSSIBLE.

Impossible? Not humanly possible? What you smoking?

Here is my impossible build. Vapes like a dream.

 

[JBrentonK]

I must admit you just blew my mind. And I will still believe 1.2 ohm with 50 watts is an impossible connection to make. But whatever.

 

[Scy123]

I must admit you just blew my mind. And I will still believe 1.2 ohm with 50 watts is an impossible connection to make. But whatever.

Here is a pic of me firing it at 50w