R91 Clone w/ SS wick - great success.

[brickfollett]

So now I'm really curious about trying 500 grade. Since wicking ability in this one has NOTHING to do with filling it/potential to leak, I might as well try the best stuff out there.

I did a fairly sloppy version of your build and its working fantastic! used 28ga kanthal and did a microcoil coming out to 1.6 ohms. Cant recall the # of wraps. 6 or 7 maybe. Wrapped the coil around a 1/8" drill bit and rolled my 500 mesh fairly loosely and clipped the underside of it so it would bend easier. Certainly not a round wick all the way around by any standards, and they may not be making as great of contact with the juice deck but dang dude its BY FAR the best build I've ever had on the Russian. Not a trace of flooding, and was getting slightly dry hits at first, but once the mesh got fully saturated, its working fantastic.

Most of us know that SS mesh tends to have a break in period, so I can imagine that it will improve. I had to give it a couple tries, because it was shorting like a wet basement with loose electrical wires. Lucky I'm not using a mech for that lol, my Provari was throwing error codes alot. I scrapped that roll of mesh and did a new one, torched it significantly more than usual and it works just dang awesome. I've heard whispers of mesh builds on kayfun style attys but never have seen a successful one on youtube or anything.

This is definitely the way to go for the kayfun style attys. Crisp clean flavor very similar to my RSST, with the capacity and efficiency of a kayfun. My RSST is a pig lol. On top of the fact that I can vape an 18490 in 45 minutes at 5.8 volts running a 2.4 ohm microcoil, I can drain 2/3 of the tank in that time as well if I'm chain vaping at my local vapor lounge.

Impressive young skywalker. Most impressive =]

 

[SkvLTD]

Across both Fogger and this, I find that having a loose positive and negative tails helps tremendously, for some reason. Positive lead has been the source of shorts in both atties for me, so as long as it loops around the mesh with lots of room to spare and only makes contact once the coil's "body" loops start, it's much easier to set. That's the only way I got it to work after re-building it when it gave me a hiccup, and it's been solid since for about half a week. Even survived a cleaning as I mentioned before.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I just might have to break out my old mesh again. I was thinking about throwing it away since I don't use gennies after discovering the Kayfuns, but if I can use mesh + Pluid + Kayfun, I'll be in heaven again.

 

[horton]

Missing the mesh too PLANofMAN.... I'm going to roll some 400 and 500 on the bias and see how it works. I'm concerned about shorting, but think I'll try it on the ProVari "delicately". Don't want to stress the vaporizer out....lol.

I'm still trying to find out if anyone has had any success with ceramic. One fellow claimed he did, but never did show his setup and now that post is almost a month old and I unsubscribed. May try finding it though and see if I can PM the poster.

 

[SkvLTD]

Yea, I'd def to test fires at the lowest wattage possible and watch for glow under the coil as those can sneak up on you. And wet-test too, though if its perfect fully dry and perfect fully wet, I'd say its as good as it gets.

I'll also say that, I'm VERY happy that I got the clone that I did. Glancing over pics of others and even the originals, they have some shaaaalllllow juice channels. That solid, square 1.5mm on mine was honestly what inspired me to try the mesh since I can just stick it right into the channels no problem and bolt everything down.

 

[ardvaark]

I did a fairly sloppy version of your build and its working fantastic! used 28ga kanthal and did a microcoil coming out to 1.6 ohms. Cant recall the # of wraps. 6 or 7 maybe. Wrapped the coil around a 1/8" drill bit and rolled my 500 mesh fairly loosely and clipped the underside of it so it would bend easier. Certainly not a round wick all the way around by any standards, and they may not be making as great of contact with the juice deck but dang dude its BY FAR the best build I've ever had on the Russian. Not a trace of flooding, and was getting slightly dry hits at first, but once the mesh got fully saturated, its working fantastic.

Most of us know that SS mesh tends to have a break in period, so I can imagine that it will improve. I had to give it a couple tries, because it was shorting like a wet basement with loose electrical wires. Lucky I'm not using a mech for that lol, my Provari was throwing error codes alot. I scrapped that roll of mesh and did a new one, torched it significantly more than usual and it works just dang awesome. I've heard whispers of mesh builds on kayfun style attys but never have seen a successful one on youtube or anything.

This is definitely the way to go for the kayfun style attys. Crisp clean flavor very similar to my RSST, with the capacity and efficiency of a kayfun. My RSST is a pig lol. On top of the fact that I can vape an 18490 in 45 minutes at 5.8 volts running a 2.4 ohm microcoil, I can drain 2/3 of the tank in that time as well if I'm chain vaping at my local vapor lounge.

Impressive young skywalker. Most impressive =]

Pics, or it never happened...

 

[brickfollett]

Pics, or it never happened...

Aw I have to prove myself? haha I'll snap a few once my tank is empty, the juice level is less than 1/4" above the window so that should be soon.

SkvLTD what do you mean by putting the mesh in the channels. Are they literally jammed down into where the juice channels are? Like the cutouts on the base chimney threads? I just laid mine down on the deck, and tried to keep them clear of the channels, that way the air would be allowed to bubble back in to the tank section. I was worried that if the mesh wicks were blocking the channels, it would cut off air backflow into the tank and disable the vacuum effect that make the Russian function. Hope that question makes sense

500 mesh was a massive improvement over 400 mesh in my RSST. Instant difference for me. I suppose I could credit the improvement of my building abilities over time, because I started with the original RSST using 400 mesh. Had a weird flavor coming off of it that was harsh and had a strange tendency to trigger my gag reflex until it heated up or my body adapted during the vape session. Hard to explain. Could have been the juice type as well. On my current RSST builds, I find that I can vape my MBV French Vanilla or Caramel Candy flavors and a substantially higher voltage than I can with the Blueberry flavor I just got from them.

I'm a fan of the 500 for sure, its my favorite building material. If I ever purchase a dripper, I'll likely try mesh in that too (madness!)

 

[brickfollett]

I just might have to break out my old mesh again. I was thinking about throwing it away since I don't use gennies after discovering the Kayfuns, but if I can use mesh + Pluid + Kayfun, I'll be in heaven again.

Whats pluid?

Here's the build!

 

[SkvLTD]

Mine is kind of like this one $24.09 Russian 91% Styled Rebuildable Atomizer Kit (4.5mL) - w/ logo at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

And if you look at the deck pic, the channels are actually VERY deep compared to original/most other clones out there. We're talking 1-1.5mm wide/deep, so I did in fact, put the mesh tail in the channels. The vacuum works just fine since mesh lets the air through and also helps block any excess juice from running wild inside the chimney or so I figure. Just look at the OP/blog article and you can see that they are much bigger even though all the bokeh.

I'm sure just touching them to the chimney bottom is plenty, but my method works just fine and I can only attribute any differences in flow of higher VG juices to the mesh, since my 100% PG stuff works perfectly breezy.

 

[brickfollett]

Mine is kind of like this one $24.09 Russian 91% Styled Rebuildable Atomizer Kit (4.5mL) - w/ logo at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

And if you look at the deck pic, the channels are actually VERY deep compared to original/most other clones out there. We're talking 1-1.5mm wide/deep, so I did in fact, put the mesh tail in the channels. The vacuum works just fine since mesh lets the air through and also helps block any excess juice from running wild inside the chimney or so I figure. Just look at the OP/blog article and you can see that they are much bigger even though all the bokeh.

I'm sure just touching them to the chimney bottom is plenty, but my method works just fine and I can only attribute any differences in flow of higher VG juices to the mesh, since my 100% PG stuff works perfectly breezy.

WOW those are really deep channels, that's nuts! The way the authentic Russian/Kayfuns work is that the juice feeds up the little channels to that deck, and then feeds the wicks. If I were to push my mesh into those channels, airflow would probably be cut off and bad things would happen. That seems like quite an advantage for mesh building and probably other builds too. 24 bucks for that bad boy is quite a steal if its a quality piece and is functioning well

 

[SkvLTD]

WOW those are really deep channels, that's nuts! The way the authentic Russian/Kayfuns work is that the juice feeds up the little channels to that deck, and then feeds the wicks. If I were to push my mesh into those channels, airflow would probably be cut off and bad things would happen. That seems like quite an advantage for mesh building and probably other builds too. 24 bucks for that bad boy is quite a steal if its a quality piece and is functioning well

Or 35 on ebay and you get a nice, tight, 510 tip top piece. But yea, reason why I immediately got the perfect mesh idea were the deep channels. Do wish mine had adjustable center pin, but alas. It sticks out a hint too far, so that pushed my iTaste VV's pin down and other atties can't make the connection, but since I just sold my Fogger V2 to a mate and my R91 clone is now my only one, I'm really not too worried. Can always pick that pin back up if ever needed too.

 

[PLANofMAN]

Whats pluid?

Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid. It's an absinthe flavored e-liquid. It and Boba's Bounty always go head to head for the "Best E-Liquid of the Year" awards. Pluid's won like two or three years in a row. It's a tank cracker though. It's also the only juice to inspire a mod. The Green Envy iHybrid.

 

[SkvLTD]

Interesting, but then we have metal tanks unlike quite a few others... lol

 

[horton]

Can someone who has used the Boba's Bounty explain what it tastes like? I checked the site and it was vague to say the least. I obviously don't keep up with commercial e-juice so don't have a clue... TIA

 

[SkvLTD]

Curious as well on that one. Heard some say while good, it's a love or hate kind of deal. Definitely not investing into mystery juice given its a premium almost everywhere..

 

[horton]

That's just it with any juice....unless you are able to sample it somehow you are relying on someone else to tell you how good or bad it is. I'd never consider buying any thing that is pricey without tasting it first. Probably the best place is the local B & M juice bar and hope they carry or will order the juice you are interested in trying.

 

[Shofixti]

I just had to try this.

1.4 ohm Microcoil with ss mesh on a kfl+ clone:


Looks good. Hopefully it vapes just as it looks. lol

EDIT: Vaping it with caramel machiatto at 15 watts and IT IS amazing. Flavor boost is great. I'm not getting the dry hits I was expecting.

 

[FattyMcJ]

Just ordered some 400 SS mesh for my girlfriends new Taifun, I may try this in my Kayfun though!

Thanks for all the pics folks!

 

[Shofixti]

SkvLTD, by chance, do you have a shot of your fogger with ss mesh? I'd like to try it too.

 

[brickfollett]

Boba's is a harsher flavor IMO, even in 100% VG. Sort of a graham cracker like flavor is really what I take from it. On the exhale its a little nutty (flavor). Its interesting to say the least, but I don't care for it myself