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OK, I get a rash when I use my e-cig. It starts on the front of my throat and goes down onto my chest. And it itches like MAD! I use both the PG and the VG based, some already made and some I flavored myself. I have 18, 24 and 12 mg.

Anyone else get a rash? I have been using nothing but VG based today, trying to find the culprit. And yep, stupid rash showed up. So tomorrow I shall limit myself to the PG based and see if that helps.

Is possible I am getting to high a nic count?

I also started a new herbal, which I shall discontinue for the time being in case that is it. Pity, it was helping. Problem is short term memory SUCKS! This is one of the wonderful side effects of The Change of Life in women. Grrrr! I don't recall having the rash when I first started, but I might have. Am NOT going back to analogs even if I have to live with the rash. But knowing if someone else had it and it was just temporary would be helpful.
Thanks, Nancy
 

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OK, I get a rash when I use my e-cig. It starts on the front of my throat and goes down onto my chest. And it itches like MAD! I use both the PG and the VG based, some already made and some I flavored myself. I have 18, 24 and 12 mg.

Anyone else get a rash? I have been using nothing but VG based today, trying to find the culprit. And yep, stupid rash showed up. So tomorrow I shall limit myself to the PG based and see if that helps.

Is possible I am getting to high a nic count?

I also started a new herbal, which I shall discontinue for the time being in case that is it. Pity, it was helping. Problem is short term memory SUCKS! This is one of the wonderful side effects of The Change of Life in women. Grrrr! I don't recall having the rash when I first started, but I might have. Am NOT going back to analogs even if I have to live with the rash. But knowing if someone else had it and it was just temporary would be helpful.
Thanks, Nancy

Wlfwo, this happens to me when I use a higher than average nic snus. I get an itchy red spot next to my nose on the same side I placed the snus.

I started using snus long before vaping, so I know it is caused by the higher ml snus. Your problem sounds similar, a reaction to the nicotine most likely.
 

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Wlfwo, this happens to me when I use a higher than average nic snus. I get an itchy red spot next to my nose on the same side I placed the snus.

I started using snus long before vaping, so I know it is caused by the higher ml snus. Your problem sounds similar, a reaction to the nicotine most likely.

I just ordered more juice at the 11mg content. So hopefully that will help. I still plan to check the PG vs VG. See if that is it. If necessary I can cut that in half and make it 5.5. I just hope it's something simple, such as an overdose of nic.
 

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:shock: It dawned on me (finally) that I have been using my e-cig for almost a month and I went totally smoke free 21 days ago. I've just had the rash the last 3-4 days. So what changed recently? It's so hard to remember (this really sucks) But, I did remember. 3 things have changed in the last few days. I got some plain VG that is 99.5% kosher (anyone know what makes it kosher?) I got my order of Lorann flavorings, I started a new herbal. If I haven't had a problem up to now (well the head rush from a high nic count) but other than that, no probem whatsoever. Then it stands to reason it has to be one of these 3 things.

Now, I did previously cut the higher e-juice with a VG, but, it was my VG from NOW, something I use in aromatherapy, pure VG suitable for internal use. I stopped using that when I got the other. But I had no problem when I was using the NOW.

Surely it wouldn't take almost a month for a reaction to show up, wouldn't it be almost immediate? It would be for anything else, or so I would think. Any thoughts on this would be deeply apprecitated. Thanks, Nancy


 

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Does the intesity of the rash change like a hive or did it appear and remain the same? Allergic hives or rashes usually itch MORE tha a rash caused by a chemical reaction

It changes, doesn't itch as much in the morning (nor as red and blotchy) and gets more intense as the day goes on. It doesn't disappear overnight, just gets less. Only rash I ever had before was when I blundered through a patch of bull nettles.
 

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I also think you should see your doctor. In the meantime, I think you should change your atomizer to a fresh one and change your smoke juice.

I used to know a woman who would get a vivid red v-shaped rash from her shoulders to her chest. When I saw this, I'd say, "Aha! You've been eating strawberries again!"

So my guess is that you're allergic to something in the juice. Your doctor can do an "allergy panel," but it would be hard to identify the component in the juice causing the problem. If switching to another juice makes it go away, however, that's fine and dandy.

Good luck!
 

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Hey, mine is like that too. Upper body only. How strange. Some on neck, but mostly shoulders and upper arms. 3 weeks in it started for me too. I have very oily skin in general so this dry itchy skin baffles me.
Wish I could figure it out.

Do you remember if you changed anything right before it started? I would think if one was going to have a reaction, it would be a right when it started reaction, not weeks into it.
 

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I also think you should see your doctor. In the meantime, I think you should change your atomizer to a fresh one and change your smoke juice.

I used to know a woman who would get a vivid red v-shaped rash from her shoulders to her chest. When I saw this, I'd say, "Aha! You've been eating strawberries again!"

So my guess is that you're allergic to something in the juice. Your doctor can do an "allergy panel," but it would be hard to identify the component in the juice causing the problem. If switching to another juice makes it go away, however, that's fine and dandy.

Good luck!

I have a new order coming in from a different place, went back to PG with that order, so we shall see. And a V shaped rash is basically what this is. Except for the neck part, that is.
 

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Could it be the flavors in the Lorann's? If you do aromatherapy, you know some oils are skin irritants. Could it be that you got some on your hands and transferred it to your neck or something?


It would have to be from vaping? it. I know better than to allow oils to remain on the skin to be transferred. I keep towelettes right there anytime I am working with such things. It's part of the setup. Anything more than a tiny drop and I go and wash it off. Although I might have been more careless with a flavoring, but not if I was adding it to the nic mixture.
 

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Hey, mine is like that too. Upper body only. How strange. Some on neck, but mostly shoulders and upper arms. 3 weeks in it started for me too. I have very oily skin in general so this dry itchy skin baffles me.
Wish I could figure it out.

Are you sure the e-cig is the culprit? I'm not saying it isn't but like you said, odd that it took so long for the SE to show up.

Have you changed or tried new recently: soap, deoderant, body wash, shampoo, conditioner, perfume, new medication, new laundry detergent or fabric softener, new piece of jewelry (necklace), etc. Culprit could be just about anything...

Perfume or jewelry comes to mind for me as this would be where I spritz my fragrance....or where a necklace would lie.
 

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Are you sure the e-cig is the culprit? I'm not saying it isn't but like you said, odd that it took so long for the SE to show up.

Have you changed or tried new recently: soap, deoderant, body wash, shampoo, conditioner, perfume, new medication, new laundry detergent or fabric softener, new piece of jewelry (necklace), etc. Culprit could be just about anything...

Perfume or jewelry comes to mind for me as this would be where I spritz my fragrance....or where a necklace would lie.

The only things I have changed in the last few months are the e-cig and one herbal. I am so stuck in a rut. LOL I don't wear jewelry, nor perfume, make my own laundry detergent and have used the same softener for about 30 years now. I buy the same old deodorant and shampoo and conditioner that I have used for at least 10 years. I didn't take the herb today, just in case that is it. Am using an unflavored e-liquid (still VG though) until the new PG one gets here or my daughter brings me some that I gave to her to give to the future son in law, it was a stronger nic one so I sent it on when I got my new order (won't do that again).
 

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I spent the day yesterday using unflavored liquid (not overly tasty) but it worked. Not cut with anything (it was 12mg and VG based). No new herbal.

Rash is better, hardly itchy at all, it is fading. So I am going to spend today doing the same as yesterday. I may just wait for flavoring until my order comes in and not add any of my own since I didn't have a problem with already flavored juice. Depending on the rash (I think I may want to have it fade completely before adding anything) I will probably do the same tomorrow. As far as I can tell right now, it's not the nicotine, it's something else.

So that leaves the new herbal, the kosher VG or the flavoring. I am assuming what makes the VG kosher is no animal products, which would make it just like any other VG is I am reasonably sure they are all made with no animal products, aren't they? Now to just track down the culprit and avoid it in the future.
 
What makes it Kosher is how it was prepared. Being kosher refers to the Jewish laws that dictate which foods can be eaten, and how those foods must be prepared. Most of these rules are laid out in the Torah, as well as the Books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Many came about for health and sanitary reasons.

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This is just a basic overview. To insure something is kosher, you must follow very stringent guidelines. For example, where the food is prepared, what it is prepared on, what else is prepared in the same 'factory', etc.. Whereas non kosher food could be made anywhere, on anything and in close proximity to any number of other items.

If youd like more information, there is a primer guide at this site:

http://www.ou.org/kosher/primer.html
 
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After days of really paying attention to what I was doing and slowly adding things back in. (I had to work tons of hours and didn't get the chance to post daily updates) I am pretty sure I found the culprit. It's the candy flavoring I am having the reaction to. I don't know if it's the coloring or the entire stuff. So far the rash is slowly (to darn slow) fading. No longer itching. So that is a good thing, but it means I can't flavor my own should it become necessary. But, at least I won't have to buy stock in Benadryl.
 

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Isn't it just the one flavoring you are reacting to? I find it hard to think of how you can react to all flavorings (but not to the flavorings from commercial e-liquid sellers), seeing their base is the same (PG, VG, PEG, water)? Did you manage to perhaps isolate a substance that is in the 'loose' flavorings, but not in the commercial liquid, if indeed you are reacting to all DIY-flavors from all manufacturers? That would be interesting to know, if such a substance would be there.
Glad to hear it is clearing though, and good luck with the last part of it! :)
 
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