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I just checked that site and the hobo 3.1 is sold out, damn I wanted to see how much it would be. I went to my vape shop last night and decided against it, I'm sorry I like it but it's too much for too little. I mean seriously it's got nothing going on that's worth Damn near 100$, just my take. That and it was a pain to even get it broken down to look at it, it took 3 of us to just get the sleeve off......pass.

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I just checked that site and the hobo 3.1 is sold out, damn I wanted to see how much it would be. I went to my vape shop last night and decided against it, I'm sorry I like it but it's too much for too little. I mean seriously it's got nothing going on that's worth Damn near 100$, just my take. That and it was a pain to even get it broken down to look at it, it took 3 of us to just get the sleeve off......pass.

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Well, if we're sharing coupon codes local vape is having 20% off with code "local20". The hobo 3.1 shows as in stock.
 

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Thanks. Aside from the Hobo v3.1, I don't see much I actually want (just like with the link I posted). Maybe the Tug.
I'm telling you other then me wanting to support him, I really don't see why this thing is close to 100$ almost everywhere. It's especially apparent once you hold and play with it. The machining is very nice, the looks are nice, but for how simple it is I don't get it.

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I'm telling you other then me wanting to support him, I really don't see why this thing is close to 100$ almost everywhere. It's especially apparent once you hold and play with it. The machining is very nice, the looks are nice, but for how simple it is I don't get it.

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Do you know if he is the actual machinist? I don't know much abut Hoberto. Like in the case of Element Mods, I know Harry is the machinist. I do think there should be a difference in pricing from these atty companies when they do the work themselves vs. outsourcing. If outsourcing it, it should be cheaper IMO.
 

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The more I get to know my Stumpy the more I realize its the best short profile attie I have used. Seriously H if you dont want the 3.1 get a Stumpy. Flavor is off the charts, perfect airflow wide open, good ammount of vapor, its stupid easy to build and the quality is amazing. Honestly though its the flavor thats doing it for me, its unreal.
 
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You're a NET guy, right? I have a manta (BF modified by Chowderhead) and love it with my NETs. I just do simple spaced single coils around .8 ohms. I get better flavor with the coil being fairly close to the posts.

Got around to doing the Manta. Spaced coil as you suggested. 26ga, 3/32" .8 ohms single. Works great. There's room for a buncha rayon.

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My thoughts after a bit of using:
Quality parts. Everything screws together well. Helluva time pulling the top off for the first time.
Easy to build with deep Philips heads.
Holds a lot of wicking.
Great air flow and flavor.

Things that bug me:
O rings on the inside of the cap. Pulls my rayon out of the well when i take my top off.
Having to take the top off to figure out the air hole alignment. I see though where this would be great for bottom feeding since I wouldn't be fiddling with it. Set it and done.

Liking it very much so far.
 

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Do you know if he is the actual machinist? I don't know much abut Hoberto. Like in the case of Element Mods, I know Harry is the machinist. I do think there should be a difference in pricing from these atty companies when they do the work themselves vs. outsourcing. If outsourcing it, it should be cheaper IMO.
I'm pretty sure it's him, he's got over 20 machines I believe. He posted a pic one time but every time we talked I never asked him, but I'm pretty certain it's him and others that are making them here and not outsourcing. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it.

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I'm pretty sure it's him, he's got over 20 machines I believe. He posted a pic one time but every time we talked I never asked him, but I'm pretty certain it's him and others that are making them here and not outsourcing. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it.

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I do think $100 is a bit much, but I accept it more from someone that machines it themselves -- especially how he seems to operate his overall business.
 
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I do think $100 is a bit much, but I accept it more from someone that machines it themselves -- especially how see seems to operate his overall business.
Yeah I respect that, and the fact I somewhat feel like I know him. I mean the man gave me his personal cell number and took time to call and talk to me so I do wanna support him and in a way I do. But I still feel like for what it is it's a little much. Or I'm spoiled by all the cheap authentics coming out recently lol could be both.

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Hold on. Let me unscrew it...

Both sides are full open. All three holes. Running it at 24.8 Standard on the SX Mini is comfortably numb. 24.0 Powerful is full and just on the edge of sharp heat.

I meant, do you have the 2x three holes or 2x slots or one slot and three holes. I am still trying to figure this out becasue I see a few different versions (yet all are V2s). I have 2x three holes but I want the 2x slots.
 
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Got around to doing the Manta. Spaced coil as you suggested. 26ga, 3/32" .8 ohms single. Works great. There's room for a buncha rayon.

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My thoughts after a bit of using:
Quality parts. Everything screws together well. Helluva time pulling the top off for the first time.
Easy to build with deep Philips heads.
Holds a lot of wicking.
Great air flow and flavor.

Things that bug me:
O rings on the inside of the cap. Pulls my rayon out of the well when i take my top off.
Having to take the top off to figure out the air hole alignment. I see though where this would be great for bottom feeding since I wouldn't be fiddling with it. Set it and done.

Liking it very much so far.

When I recommended that build I was still using spaced microcoils and 28ga. I have sense changed to 27ga around a roughly 2mm mandrel. I can't believe how well it works with NETs. No real loss of flavor and minimal gunking even with darker liquids like GJ4 and count caramel. Credit to MFtoms for recommending the 2mm size.

Glad you're enjoying the manta! I removed the bottom o ring from my cap and it's a little easier to remove but still a pain!

I have to admit though, The Stumpy has replaced the Manta as my favorite atty. Similar flavor, but I like the low profile of the Stumpy and the fact that I can slap a single coil right between the two posts.
 

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I feel like this H, FOR QUALITY you are going to pay a bit more. The Production by Flawless DOES NOT come close to the QUALITY of the Tug as an example. I have seen the Hobo 3.1 around $80 and to me that is fair. If you factor in a discount code you may get it for cheaper. Im not rich and I would love these drippers to cost $45 but I also dont think thats really fair to expect from an American doing it themselves.
 
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