READYxWICK for non cotton people

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Does anyone know the size of the 16 gauge needle? I'm guessing it's larger than a 1/16 drill bit. Does anyone have a micrometer that can measure and post it? I have a large set of drill bits and could move to the size of the needle if I knew the size.

16g needle = 1.63 outer diameter
1/16' drill bit = 1.58 diameter.
 

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So is the largest mandrel on the DZ jig too small? And were do i get just a couple of these 16 gauge luer needles?

BTW... I picked up the one RXW build this morning and it vaped pretty good! What I did was gently push it down more towards the base of the RM2.But it still seems too tight in the coil, it was a little difficult getting it thru the coil even well wetted and one end cut at an angle.And I only get a couple, at the most, vapes before i have to squonk again, so it seems that it's not holding the juice well.probably cuz the coil is too small?
 
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Thanks Mac great info there. Rudy I was like WHAT until I realized yours was in mm. Thank you too

Kay have you thought about one wrap of scotch tape over the jig before you wrap the coil? Just a thought and it could work. Worst that could happen your out a dimes worth of wire.
 
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Thanks Mac great info there. Rudy I was like WHAT until I realized yours was in mm. Thank you too

Kay have you thought about one wrap of scotch tape over the jig before you wrap the coil? Just a thought and it could work. Worst that could happen your out a dimes worth of wire.

To make it just a tad thicker?! brilliant! I'm gonna try..no... I AM gonna make some dynamite coils today!

Yesterday i was ready to kill somebody or something...puter is still wonky as hell...poor Dennis...he's got quite a chore trying to help me get it runnin good...I PM'd him last night that i had a big hammer and the puter was about to meet it, and also that i was ready to kill something:facepalm:


haven't heard from him since..think i scared him off?:ohmy:
 
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Thanks Mac great info there. Rudy I was like WHAT until I realized yours was in mm. Thank you too

Kay have you thought about one wrap of scotch tape over the jig before you wrap the coil? Just a thought and it could work. Worst that could happen your out a dimes worth of wire.

I found the 16g or 1.63mm the perfect fit. It fits tight enough that it does not wiggle around inside the coil which would be TOO loose and not vape very well, and not too tight that the ends flair out at the end which would mean the wicking thru the coil would be too compressed and inhibiting full juice soaking. With the 16g needle the wick is straight from one end to the other with no compression, just like a screw thru matching nut. Just my 2cents. :)
 

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Kay, see my measurements above. Just a little thicker make a huge difference!

I did see them Rudy..but I don't understand all this tech. stuff:facepalm: That could explain why I'm having such a hard time. But I'm gonna try raynman's trick with the scotch tape till i can get a 16 ga. luer.
 

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I found the 16g or 1.63mm the perfect fit. It fits tight enough that it does not wiggle around inside the coil which would be TOO loose and not vape very well, and not too tight that the ends flair out at the end which would mean the wicking thru the coil would be too compressed and inhibiting full juice soaking[/COLOR]. With the 16g needle the wick is straight from one end to the other with no compression, just like a screw thru matching nut. Just my 2cents. :)


aHA! THAT'S the problem, the flaired end!Just what I'm seeing on this setup that stopped working!

Off to the workshop I go.....
 

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aHA! THAT'S the problem, the flaired end!Just what I'm seeing on this setup that stopped working!

Off to the workshop I go.....

Glad I could provide you an aHa moment!!!! :)
Let us know how you make out.

Not a great picture but you can see the wick staight thru with no "choking". I trimmed the tails a bit after taking this picture to just fit inside the base. IMG_00000370.jpg
 

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I did see them Rudy..but I don't understand all this tech. stuff:facepalm: That could explain why I'm having such a hard time. But I'm gonna try raynman's trick with the scotch tape till i can get a 16 ga. luer.

Great! Good luck.
Could use black electricians tape as well as it would have a little friction to wrap easier.
shouldn't take much tape, maybe a wrap or 2 around your mandrel,then try just couple of wraps with your wire and try threading the wick thru for size instead of making a full, pretty coil and wasting wire.
 

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I found the 16g or 1.63mm the perfect fit. It fits tight enough that it does not wiggle around inside the coil which would be TOO loose and not vape very well, and not too tight that the ends flair out at the end which would mean the wicking thru the coil would be too compressed and inhibiting full juice soaking. With the 16g needle the wick is straight from one end to the other with no compression, just like a screw thru matching nut. Just my 2cents. :)

Here's the only way I can answer that. There is no prescribed "perfect" for the contact between say 1/16" (.0625", 1.5875mm) and say the max slot on most clearos of nominally .07" (1.778mm). Every say .05 mm step would offer a different degree of deflection (compression into the wick once saturated). The general rule of thumb would be the more deflection the more of the wire itself that is contacting the wick, e.g. more vaporization area. But it doesn't necessarily hold true for every juice!

In other words, it might be a perfect wind in each case…but not necessarily bring out the best in your favorite blend. Interesting, huh?

Each flavor we use is slightly different. For example, one might be more VG, or have a flavoring that is more responsive to heat like tobacco or vanilla. Still others like fruity flavors the opposite. And issue like resistance, deflection (flow), power come into play.

So I guess the answer here is that the winds we choose are like the kitchen tools. Some are really ideal for those delicate scrambled eggs. Others essential for our favorite sizzling steak. And then you have that great all-around sauce pan thats great for everything.

I hear it too often that it's a matter of personal preference. Cool. That's not the issue though, or the question we're all really trying to answer. It's temperature. Then next, what's the best tool to get there? If you have standard baseline of performance it's easy then to make comparisons.

The important thing here is be a craftsman of the tool I concluded, if ours weren't producing what we expected. And that's why I strove to answer the question — What is a proper electrical coil? Then to find a simple means, the techniques, to build them repeatedly, consistently and without the huffing and puffing. If we have to guess and spend too much time making one, then we spend less time actually using it. And that's a shame. I love vaping but rebuilding while engaging is not the be-all-end-all for me.

My 2¢ gang. Savor the flavor.

Good luck.

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Great! Good luck.
Could use black electricians tape as well as it would have a little friction to wrap easier.
shouldn't take much tape, maybe a wrap or 2 around your mandrel,then try just couple of wraps with your wire and try threading the wick thru for size instead of making a full, pretty coil and wasting wire.

Lol...Scotch tape didn't work...it wouldn't stick!
 

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So.............with my Reo, RM2, ohm meter and batteries all due today I expect to start building using cotton tomorrow. Gotta get them batteries charged up, so will have plenty of time to sit and stare at my new purchase. I also, just for the hell of it, order some RxW.

General consensus, short tails just past the coil or longer tails to the edge of the deck?
Also .........for my benefit, is it best to keep the coil near the juice hole/RM2 air hole (basically on one side of the posts) or route the coil between the posts? I guess I've seen a number of coils, just looking for the most common for a Reo noob.
 

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For the "Ugly coil" lovers

3mm Lg Paperclip inserted - 4 wraps of 30g ........... 1.15 to 1.20 every single time



I'm all for the science and learning posts but the only experimenting I've done is what size paper clip to insert before coiling :) Nailed it on the first try ... Large paperclip for the win.
 
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