Real extracts ?? really ?? how

[chalton36]

OK well I came across a juce today that said .. This roll your own tobacco flavoured alternative has a light yet satisfying flavour. Made from real tobacco extracts to provide you with a great authentic tobacco flavour.

So how would they get extracts and would this not have maoi's in it if this is the case ?? Or alcaloids (prob spelt wrong lol)

Any thoughts ?

 

[plastictree]

Look on YouTube on how to extract a cigar for eliquid. He basically boils it down to this very small amount of syrupy liquid. Then mixes with pg/vg. Idk if that's how they are doing it but that's how I've seen it done

 

[chalton36]

Thanks I will go look for that. "Interesting" so if this is the case it would contain all the added chemicals as well ?? Maybe not a good thing unless the tobacco is fresh before they add all their crap to it.

 

[BakuPeg]

WAIT Theres an AP for that!

Err forum..

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/liquid-extraction-tobacco/

 

[chalton36]

Wow thanks for that ! I will go look with big interest

 

[BakuPeg]

I am still testing out my own NET's and saw your topic. So far so good.

 

[volume control]

There is a term for this and i went through a bunch of discussions on it a week or two ago. There are i think its WTE? liquids that contain more of the extracts of actual tobacco, and have been noted as more satisfying than your typical eliquid. However these extracts may also contain unknown negative side effects or contain carcinogens, i am not sure. I am satisfied with my current liquids after months so am not inclined to try

 

[Jerms]

There's the easily obtained, commercially available "Tobacco Extract" and "Tobacco Absolut". TA is an extremely concentrated, thick and oily extract, and can be used in very small amounts for commercial vendors and DIY. More interesting is the Naturally Extracted Tobaccos, which use high quality cigar, pipe, or whole leave tobacco. They are usually made by using maceration in pg and/or vg, but other ways are used. They are my favorite flavors and many others as well. The Natural Tobacco thread in the general e-liquid discussion forum is dedicated to those.

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[IntelligentDesigner]

I'm sure some of the chemicals will be present, but that most of them are added during the manufacturing process, much of which could be skipped if they plan to boil the tobacco leaves down for the extract rather that cure them and treat them for smoking.

 

[Jerms]

I'm sure some of the chemicals will be present, but that most of them are added during the manufacturing process, much of which could be skipped if they plan to boil the tobacco leaves down for the extract rather that cure them and treat them for smoking.

Yeah, and cigar and pipe tobacco doesn't have nearly the amount of additives as cigarette tobacco. I think most of the carcinogens come from the combustion of the tobacco but some may not be a could be present in the extract. At the worst it's still a lot more safer than smoking and at best it's harmless. Probably somewhere in the middle, it's nothing that worries me enough to not want to vape NETs.

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[DiNet]

What chemicals are you expecting from tobacco leaf?
Authentic tobacco flavor is not the one you are, probably, familiar.
I once tried to smoke natural tobacco in a pipe, I honestly thought it was the worst thing I have ever tried.

p.s. ymmv

 

[bruiser]

A real premium cigar has no additives.

 

[NancyR]

keep in mind, if you are vaping any juice with nic in it you are vaping a juice that has extracts from tobacco, as that is how the nic is gotten

 

[chalton36]

keep in mind, if you are vaping any juice with nic in it you are vaping a juice that has extracts from tobacco, as that is how the nic is gotten

but is some not pharma grade manufactured, and also some is naturally-extracted. ????? or does it all start from the plant ??

 

[unloaded]

The way I understand it, if you use alcohol or acids to make the extract you'll get some of the compounds you are worried about. If you use PG or VG those compounds remain with the tobacco and won't be in your extract.

 

[NancyR]

but is some not pharma grade manufactured, and also some is naturally-extracted. ????? or does it all start from the plant ??

even pharma grade starts with the plant, as currently there is no cost effective way of getting the nic from any other source