Reasons not to switch to e-cigarettes

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kooganani

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I'm on day 3 with no analogs and loving my Volt, and I've been thinking, "why did it take me so long?" Here are my reasons:

1. Tried an e-cig before, and it sucked.
The only other e-cigarette I tried was a couple years ago. It looked like a regular cigarette, but it was the size of a big magic marker and tasted like an ashtray. No throat hit to speak of. I think a lot of people who tried gas station, free offer, or generally low-quality e-cigs, especially a few years ago, don't realize how far the technology has come.

2. Lack of a trustworthy online resource.
After spending some time on this forum, it's obvious that it's full of knowledgeable veterans who are happy to give honest opinions to newbies. However, when you're a newbie who's starting to research the subject, it's smart to second-guess the validity of things like reviews on vendor websites, where the reviews have probably been edited or filtered, or are just plain fake.

3. Lack of a personal reference.
vaping is still not quite mainstream, so it's easy to be a smoker and not know anyone who vapes. I brought my Volt out last Friday night and let my brother try it, and his response was along the lines of, "well duh, that's awesome and I'm going to get one." He and I discussed switching to e-cigarettes a year or two ago, but couldn't figure out what to get. If you can try a friend's PV, it makes the process significantly easier.

4. Cost of entry.
After blowing money on patches, I was hesitant to gamble more on an e-cigarette. I knew that if I dropped $80 or so, I'd probably get a good one, but I had no idea whether it would be good enough for me to give up smoking. Finding a $30 starter kit (the price of two packs of Samson in NYC) with a solid recommendation from SteelJan made all the difference. Now that I know it will work for me, I have no problem spending money on my PV because it's money that I definitely won't be spending on cigarettes.

5. Bewildering array of choices.
I'm still struggling with this. How do you tell the difference between a brand, a vendor, a type, and a specific model? I've only just figured out that my Volt is an 808 aka KR808d-1. It's compatible with other 808's, but not all of them. Which models work with which accessories? There are some great posts on this forum that help make sense of this, but it's still a giant mess that requires both research and actual experience to get a handle on.

6. Dripping e-liquid sounds gross.
I know this is not rational. I am not a squeamish person. Once you've started vaping, dripping is a no-brainer. However for me it invokes a mental image of a chemical juice dripping into my mouth, with a side of post-nasal drip. For now, I'm going to stick with cartomizers, and it will still be cheaper than cigarettes.

Well I never said they were good reasons. :) If you haven't made the switch yet, bite the bullet and go for it! The great thing about this forum is that the vendors are all reputable. So you can pretty much pick one, find an inexpensive starter kit, and you'll be good to go.
 

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Haha. Yeah. Glad you found them!

I mostly have Vapor4Life manuals but I am enjoying my one Volt manual battery a lot. It is a Raspberry color so enticing that I just spent over $15 at DIYFlavorShack (plus ugh $6 shipping) buying Raspberry flavoring and Raspberry Vanilla and Raspberry Bubblegum juices along with a couple of their $1 samples (in the coupon codes section) since my order qualified at over $10 (mm mm Boyz n Berry and omg B52 shooter which I am afraid will be full of flavoring sediment but I spent much of a Canada business trip once drinking B52 shooters and even stole the tall glasses and got caught at customs "WHAT are these?" so I had to get this).

And I have been thinking about that bright yellow Volt battery. I am not a bright yellow person but that thing just screams yellow slickers and trying to flag down a cab. Interesting color.
 
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calico21

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This is something I think could be printed and given to someone in doubt, very rational and laid out . I just talked a friend of mine into it because the housing she's in doesn't allow smoking and her lawyer for the divorce doesn't want her to smoke either. (kid custody thing). She hasn't given up analogs totally but we're working on it together, Thanx
 

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Being a tech nerd I was fascinated by the idea when I first heard about it. Unfortunately I first heard about it in the specific context of someone talking about the Blu, and while I did look it up and thought it sounded interesting, they wouldn't ship to Canada, and not being familiar with the terminology or anything I didn't even think to Google alternatives. Thankfully someone started talking about E-cigs in a more general sense a few months later, and that was it. A week of research and one shipment later and I had my eGo and was vaping my brains out.

But that first introduction to the Blu was kind of like your situation: You really have no idea what's out there, if it will work, or what everything means and does, and even if you think to start Googling it can take a while before you really understand even the basics. That week of research I did was really just enough for me to know what a 510 was, that an eGo was just a 510 with a big battery, the difference between a cartomizer and cartridge, some of the terms, and that there were these other thingies called DSE901s, KR808D-1s, 301s, E-pipes and ... well, a whole hell of a lot of things skittering around the periphery of my understanding.

But hanging around here taught me a lot. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, and I'm still learning, but I think I know enough now to know how much I don't know. :)

The important thing though, everything else aside, is just to try it. Find out what a good basic starter kit is and jump on it. Even if it only gets you to cut down, that's money saved even over the course of a week to research and find some better stuff.
 

wabbit

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The only thing I "knew" was what I read in a couple of pretty bad articles. You know the type - antifreeze! and it was all a plot to skirt the law and get young kids addicted to nicotine so they could move on to cigarettes. There was mention of the "good people" trying to quickly make it illegal to prevent the deaths and keep the little children from being hooked.

I continued to try every method to quit smoking and continued to fail. Then I talked to my doctor and she mentioned that some of her patients who had tried everything else had tried vaping and it was working for them. I began doing my research and found ECF and read everything I could find. I especially enjoyed the topics on what folks would buy as their 2nd or 3rd devices and it spared me from wasting time/effort with the cheap mall kiosk stuff. I ordered two Riva 1100mah starter kits, spare parts, and a wide variety of juice.

It's amazing what a little honest information can do.
 

suku21

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I'm on day 3 with no analogs and loving my Volt, and I've been thinking, "why did it take me so long?" Here are my reasons:

1. Tried an e-cig before, and it sucked.
The only other e-cigarette I tried was a couple years ago. It looked like a regular cigarette, but it was the size of a big magic marker and tasted like an ashtray. No throat hit to speak of. I think a lot of people who tried gas station, free offer, or generally low-quality e-cigs, especially a few years ago, don't realize how far the technology has come.

2. Lack of a trustworthy online resource.
After spending some time on this forum, it's obvious that it's full of knowledgeable veterans who are happy to give honest opinions to newbies. However, when you're a newbie who's starting to research the subject, it's smart to second-guess the validity of things like reviews on vendor websites, where the reviews have probably been edited or filtered, or are just plain fake.

3. Lack of a personal reference.
Vaping is still not quite mainstream, so it's easy to be a smoker and not know anyone who vapes. I brought my Volt out last Friday night and let my brother try it, and his response was along the lines of, "well duh, that's awesome and I'm going to get one." He and I discussed switching to e-cigarettes a year or two ago, but couldn't figure out what to get. If you can try a friend's PV, it makes the process significantly easier.

4. Cost of entry.
After blowing money on patches, I was hesitant to gamble more on an e-cigarette. I knew that if I dropped $80 or so, I'd probably get a good one, but I had no idea whether it would be good enough for me to give up smoking. Finding a $30 starter kit (the price of two packs of Samson in NYC) with a solid recommendation from SteelJan made all the difference. Now that I know it will work for me, I have no problem spending money on my PV because it's money that I definitely won't be spending on cigarettes.

5. Bewildering array of choices.
I'm still struggling with this. How do you tell the difference between a brand, a vendor, a type, and a specific model? I've only just figured out that my Volt is an 808 aka KR808d-1. It's compatible with other 808's, but not all of them. Which models work with which accessories? There are some great posts on this forum that help make sense of this, but it's still a giant mess that requires both research and actual experience to get a handle on.

6. Dripping e-liquid sounds gross.
I know this is not rational. I am not a squeamish person. Once you've started vaping, dripping is a no-brainer. However for me it invokes a mental image of a chemical juice dripping into my mouth, with a side of post-nasal drip. For now, I'm going to stick with cartomizers, and it will still be cheaper than cigarettes.

Well I never said they were good reasons. :) If you haven't made the switch yet, bite the bullet and go for it! The great thing about this forum is that the vendors are all reputable. So you can pretty much pick one, find an inexpensive starter kit, and you'll be good to go.

been through all this , would you recommend beginners to start with starter kit? or just go for the higher ends ones?
 

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I think these might be picking up in New York! I was at a deli last night in the East Village and this guy (20-something) comes busting through the door and starts asking the guy behind the counter if they sell electronic cigarettes, the guy just stares at him blankly for a good silent five seconds before the younger guy takes his hint and rushes out the door. Whole thing happened in about 15 seconds, but I was about to direct the guy to ECF. If NY deli sells e-cigs I don't think they're going to meet muster in the quality department.
 
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