Hello all. I've been interested in getting a rebuildable atomizer, after I switched to clearos for a while, I went back to dripping and just can't see myself going back to clearos. Cartos don't work for me either. I don't really understand rebuildable atomizers however, I am currently using Betterlife 3 hole dripping attys, but I am interested in something better. I don't really like to tinker with stuff too much so I'm worried about screwing up the rebuilding of these atomizers, but I'd like your opinion and input on this. I just don't want it to explode or destroy my batteries.. I'm paranoid about stuff like that.
rebuildable atomizers?? noob friendly?
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The only rebuildable I can think of right now is a Vivi nova, as they are as easy as hell to rebuild. Other than that, I do believe there is no such rebuildables that are as easy to rebuild as a vivi nova. They will require constant work and time, but information is really the key to rebuilding it perfectly. After that, practice comes next.
IMO the VVN isn't easy to rebuild at all. The cramped space caused me a lot of shorts. Tried different methods and always still was working out shorts against the atomizer head.
The easiest to work on, at least in my mind, is the one with the most room to work in.
IGO-L probably has the most open space I've seen of the dripping attys.
There are also some rba that utilize ceramic and I think this can be pretty easy to do, but I'm spacing on any names.
Steel mesh wicks is really what can be difficult to figure out, so if you avoid that any rba isn't too bad to work on (for me, YMMV).
The easiest to work on, at least in my mind, is the one with the most room to work in.
IGO-L probably has the most open space I've seen of the dripping attys.
There are also some rba that utilize ceramic and I think this can be pretty easy to do, but I'm spacing on any names.
Steel mesh wicks is really what can be difficult to figure out, so if you avoid that any rba isn't too bad to work on (for me, YMMV).
Get an Igo-L - excellent RBA - cheap, no loss of money if you dont like it. Well made, etc etc. Easy to build. Around 13.99 RTD Vapor
Once you learn how to use it, you can go on to add other devices to your collection. Once you get into RBA's you will never buy another china atty or carto
Once you learn how to use it, you can go on to add other devices to your collection. Once you get into RBA's you will never buy another china atty or carto
Smok RDA, doesn't get any easier than a ERA with twice the room to work in. Heh, what do I know though, it's the easiest of the three rba's I have, and cheap!
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don't get this RBA it's got brass posts and unless you want to vape the consequences of brass and eliquid making sweet love children of chemical joy, i'd steer far from this atty
agreed. i own quite a few IGO L's...(22 at the moment) and more on the way in a co op, they're hands down the best delievery system i have tried. If you don't like yours after you buy one i'll buy it off you
my last point is...rebuildable atomizer and newb often don't go too well together. make sure you have a firm understanding of how they work, what to know and look out for as well as how to use a multimeter. i just feel too many new vapers are trying to get into some advanced stuff too soon, and it could either not end well, or steer them far from ever trying an RBA again because their first experience was horrible due to lack of knowledge.
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RBA's are a bit fiddly and rarely work the way one would hope on the first try, the fact that you admit you don't care to tinker much worries me. I like to tinker and have become frustrated more than once with these things. I will say it is worth the tinkering when you get them working well.
I've used the Better Life dripping atty and it was great before I got into rebuildables. If you don't like to tinker, though, you should stay away from RBA's. Building coils is just the first step. After that you need to get your wire and wraps just right to get the resistance you want. Then the different wicking material. You'll need a multimeter or a PV that checks resistance and has short circuit protection. Then it's the batteries (high drain, flat tops, nipple tops, etc.). A dripping atty on an Ego type VV battery works just fine.
That said, I think the Igo-L is the easiest to rebuild, plenty of space to work with and lots of room for different type wicks. I've read of some getting up to 20 drops in it. Tank style, the Vivi Nova is fairly easy but space is tight. If you like the Better Life dripping atty, go with the Igo-L over a Vivi Nova. The flavor from a Vivi Nova doesn't come close.
That said, I think the Igo-L is the easiest to rebuild, plenty of space to work with and lots of room for different type wicks. I've read of some getting up to 20 drops in it. Tank style, the Vivi Nova is fairly easy but space is tight. If you like the Better Life dripping atty, go with the Igo-L over a Vivi Nova. The flavor from a Vivi Nova doesn't come close.
I appreciate your concern for our health, but, ever heard of brass plumbing? Do you have some science to back this up? Are you aware of what actually makes certain types of brass toxic or are you just worried about oxidation?
don't get this RBA it's got brass posts and unless you want to vape the consequences of brass and eliquid making sweet love children of chemical joy, i'd steer far from this atty
agreed. i own quite a few IGO L's...(22 at the moment) and more on the way in a co op, they're hands down the best delievery system i have tried. If you don't like yours after you buy one i'll buy it off you
my last point is...rebuildable atomizer and newb often don't go too well together. make sure you have a firm understanding of how they work, what to know and look out for as well as how to use a multimeter. i just feel too many new vapers are trying to get into some advanced stuff too soon, and it could either not end well, or steer them far from ever trying an RBA again because their first experience was horrible due to lack of knowledge.
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Ehh... I like the idea of RBA but I just don't see myself wanting to tinker with coils and meshes and unscrewing things I don't understand. Ah... I suppose I should just stick with regular attys. Any recommendations for those? I just want one that works... no tinkering involved.
I am in the plumbing wholesale business (waterworks/underground water mains etc). NSF 61 standards are changing now and will be fully in effect in 2014. Annex F lowers the amount of lead that is allowed, but does not eliminate it. the amount of lead is minimal. The have been studies about the effects of lead in brass, I'll try to remember to scan them when I am at work tomorrow if anyone one is interested.
For zero tinkering, the HH357 is the go-to pre-made atty of choice for a lot of people.
For a tiny bit of tinkering, get an iGo-L & forget messing with mesh - just buy some cotton make up pads and you can use strips of that as wick. Measure the length of coil you need to reach a certain resistance, find a mini screwdriver, wrap the coil around that, thread the cotton through, place in posts, done.
When the taste goes downhill in a few days, don't even take the coil out, just slip the wick out of the coil and dry-burn the gunk off...thread new wick in, soak in juice, done. Rewicking is a 2 minute or less job.
For a tiny bit of tinkering, get an iGo-L & forget messing with mesh - just buy some cotton make up pads and you can use strips of that as wick. Measure the length of coil you need to reach a certain resistance, find a mini screwdriver, wrap the coil around that, thread the cotton through, place in posts, done.
When the taste goes downhill in a few days, don't even take the coil out, just slip the wick out of the coil and dry-burn the gunk off...thread new wick in, soak in juice, done. Rewicking is a 2 minute or less job.
Twenty is actually quite easily doable. I've got mine set up right now to run 30+ drops and there's plenty of room for more silica. I believe if one were to set it up with silica wick and cotton filling, it could hold at least a couple ml. Some are running 50+ drops in these.
It's the Chinese manufacturers I don't trust to use lead-free (or nearly lead-free) brass. It becomes a guess what exactly they're using.
He flies down from above and lighting on a plain wooden perch his YB medallion, around his neck, glows a brilliant yellow. You hear a deep, smooth, male, Latin voice, emanaiting from his as his translator kicks in:
"Hail, greetings and salutaions you RBA interested ones! I have recently undertaken this path. I now rebuild all my Vivi Nova (Mini) heads using silica wick (2.5-3mm not sure) and 32 ga a1 Kanthal wire. I started with these. I was luck enough to be piffed a Vision Eternity RBA. I love the VE in it's drip mode and it's rebuilding is similar to a Vivi Nova head. Although 32 ga a1 kanthal is not a recommended wire for the VE it works in it well. I am pleased rebuilding my Vivi Nova heads and the youtube video, by PBusardo was my guideline.
Now I am considering moving up to an AGA-T Plus RBA. Go slowly. Check our youtube for tutorials and how to videos regarding what you want to rebuild. I will be keeping my Vision Eternity, indefinitely, because I can easily drip 20 drops of e-liquid into it and still enjoy a drip.
This has been my experience and is only offered for my
Good luck, one and all, as you pursue the RBA/RDA curve. I have not regretted, for one instant, my foray into this area."
Yardbyrd flaps his wings and flies slowly upward as his ever faithful realm traveling perch evaporate. He flies off to the left of your vision and there is the sound of a tremendous gong beign struck, a long peale of thunder, and the reflective beams of lightning as he disappears.
"Hail, greetings and salutaions you RBA interested ones! I have recently undertaken this path. I now rebuild all my Vivi Nova (Mini) heads using silica wick (2.5-3mm not sure) and 32 ga a1 Kanthal wire. I started with these. I was luck enough to be piffed a Vision Eternity RBA. I love the VE in it's drip mode and it's rebuilding is similar to a Vivi Nova head. Although 32 ga a1 kanthal is not a recommended wire for the VE it works in it well. I am pleased rebuilding my Vivi Nova heads and the youtube video, by PBusardo was my guideline.
Now I am considering moving up to an AGA-T Plus RBA. Go slowly. Check our youtube for tutorials and how to videos regarding what you want to rebuild. I will be keeping my Vision Eternity, indefinitely, because I can easily drip 20 drops of e-liquid into it and still enjoy a drip.
This has been my experience and is only offered for my
Good luck, one and all, as you pursue the RBA/RDA curve. I have not regretted, for one instant, my foray into this area."Yardbyrd flaps his wings and flies slowly upward as his ever faithful realm traveling perch evaporate. He flies off to the left of your vision and there is the sound of a tremendous gong beign struck, a long peale of thunder, and the reflective beams of lightning as he disappears.
Thanks for the reply. If there's a problem, I definitely want to know about it, but everything I've read so far has been speculation and nothing to back it up. I know the home brew guys aren't worried about it. Definitely looking forward to your findings.
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