Speaking of respect...
Please remember to be respectful of your fellow members - don't be poking at each other
Again a reminder...don't be poking at each other in here.
Recent confrontation in a parking lot
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Again a reminder...don't be poking at each other in here.
Well said, and applies across US society as a whole!!
Outstanding young Lady!
I haven't been called a young lady in quite some time, but thanks!
Don't forget the waving of hands at vapor is a conditioned response to smoke not necessarily an actual annoyance with the vapor.
My sister doesn't mind me vaping in her house. I don't blow clouds but because I use 100%-90% PG it can linger. She waved her hands at my wisps so I asked if it bothered her (I will happily go into the other room, I just won't go outside in the rain or in winter). She said it wasn't bothering her, it just looked like smoke.
I had something similar with an in-law-in-law sitting around a campfire.
My sister doesn't mind me vaping in her house. I don't blow clouds but because I use 100%-90% PG it can linger. She waved her hands at my wisps so I asked if it bothered her (I will happily go into the other room, I just won't go outside in the rain or in winter). She said it wasn't bothering her, it just looked like smoke.
I had something similar with an in-law-in-law sitting around a campfire.
As one who advocates for 'vape everywhere with respect,' I'd like to take a gander at this, even while I realize it has already been addressed.
If I vape indoors in public, I do it with respect by:
- finding any number of locations where I won't be exhaling less than 10 feet from other patrons
- asking manager/owner of location if they are okay with visitors/customers vaping in their establishment (letting them know I will keep exhales away from others)
- if a situation ever arises where first item on this list is not being followed, I ask people in immediate vicinity if they have any issues with my exhaling vapor.
To date, I am batting 1.000 with my indoor public vaping.
In my case, yes. I strongly believe they are seeing someone who is engaged in indoors vaping with respect. And I think that matters significantly at this time. I think it is possible they may think otherwise, and that I may never know. But as I am willing to concede on that point, I hope among vapers looking for reasonable discussion on this, that there might be concession from other way of looking at indoor public vaping that it is plausible that non-vapers are getting positive impressions of what indoor public vaping with respect looks like.
I think many of us are very mindful. I am when I vape indoors in public. Yet, I will vape in hospitals and generally not ask. Because hospitals are very very very easy to find places where there is no one around within 50 feet of you. Hence, it makes as much sense for me to ask in those locations as it does to ask outdoors in a parking lot or in a park.
Be careful when you Vape in Hospitals Jman8.
www. syracuse .com/news/index.ssf/2014/04/syracuse_hospital_bans_e-cigarettes_after_patient_catches_fire_while_using_one.html
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Broke that link to junk journalism. This was a case where an elderly person either ill and confused or with dementia tried to light an ecig with a cigarette lighter while on oxygen, causing a fire. The ecig was about as relevant as the phase of the moon.
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Be careful when you post junk news articles zoiDman.
I thought one of ECF mods recently debunked the implied claim in this article.
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Maybe you can Point me to the Link where it was Debunked?
And if so, I will Delete the Link.
Yes, because I actually asked about this, as my mom is usually using an oxygen canula when she's hospitalized. I can't speak to the claim of the actual patient on oxygen doing it, but for anyone else vaping, especially if doing it in the pvt room's pvt bathroom, there is no danger; the 'glowing red hot' coil is NOT 'glowing red hot' when it's drenched in e-juice, so it's odd to me that even a patient on oxygen would be able to 'set themselves on fire' -- strikes me as yet another troll newspaper acct. Blithering idiots.
Andria
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True, but what they don't see cannot possibly hurt them or anyone else. I vaped while "incarcerated" in the emergency room, because they were kind enough to close the door. It didn't hurt me, and it didn't hurt anyone else.
Andria
Can't find moderator's post, after quick search, and so a little less sure than I was when I wrote post #106. But still believe I saw that within last month.
Anyway, this article does debunk the claim that eCig caused the fire: NY hospital wrongfully bans electronic cigarettes after patient catches fire
An excerpt from this article (bold emphasis mine):
For perspective, you're not supposed to use petroleum jelly, chap stick or any petroleum product around oxygen for fear of fire as well. 
And then I've seen people smoking around oxygen, which definitely seems like a bad idea. Personally, I wouldn't recommend the practice, simply because any heat source at all around oxygen just isn't the best idea in the world, but given a choice between a cigarette (especially lighting one) around oxygen and vaping, the vaping is probably much, much safer.
Ultimately though, someone bothering to come across a parking lot to freak out about someone vaping. Really? I'd probably just tell them to go get a job. They obviously have way too much time on their hands. And there's one in every crowd these days. I mean there are people who still think the earth is flat.
No use even talking to them, as they obviously have some kind of severe mental issues. Any more than it's worth my time to talk to someone arguing with themselves in a bar. Especially if they're loosing the argument.
And then I've seen people smoking around oxygen, which definitely seems like a bad idea. Personally, I wouldn't recommend the practice, simply because any heat source at all around oxygen just isn't the best idea in the world, but given a choice between a cigarette (especially lighting one) around oxygen and vaping, the vaping is probably much, much safer.Ultimately though, someone bothering to come across a parking lot to freak out about someone vaping. Really? I'd probably just tell them to go get a job. They obviously have way too much time on their hands. And there's one in every crowd these days. I mean there are people who still think the earth is flat.
No use even talking to them, as they obviously have some kind of severe mental issues. Any more than it's worth my time to talk to someone arguing with themselves in a bar. Especially if they're loosing the argument.
So it Sounds like the Mr. Galloway has not made a Determination yet. I'll except that.
Just Curious. I wonder how many Fires there have in been Involving Hospital Patients on Oxygen in 2013?
This has been going on for years, and I've been commenting on it for years.
And yet it seems to persist like some sort of virus.
When you get to the bottom of it, there is a huge middle ground where almost every vaper really stands.
But when emotions get in the way, people seem to want to move towards one of the edges.
I will admit, however, that there are still some people on the extreme fringe that refuse to acknowledge any middle ground.
And I consider "DO NOT VAPE WHERE SMOKING IS NOT ALLOWED" to be an unreasonable and unproductive place for a vaper to be standing.
It doesn't do much to my heart at 9mg that my asthma inhaler isn't already doing in even greater degree. And it's far better for the pulse and BP than standing on your head from nic'ing out.
Andria
Last month I stayed overnight in the hospital and since in the ER they don't provide nic patches I vaped. I was in a private room, so no one paid attention and if they did, nobody said anything. The only thing I heard was "too misty in here", and I wasn't about to blow my cover.
If you vape at 18mg or are prone to arrythmias it'll show on the EKG. Since the attack I'm on beta blockers and vaping 16 mg barely moves the BP set by the blockers (around 55 to 70 BPM). While on a patch during the hospital stay I was constantly on 80 thanks to the elevated nic of the patch. My doctor says she prefers vaping because it's less and more constant in time.
My pulse rarely goes below 90, because of the inhaler. Maybe when I'm sleeping. I think my low BP might also be a factor in having such a high pulse-rate. At night I generally lower my nic level from my daytime 9-10 mg, to about 6mg, so I don't have a pounding heart at bedtime, but when I'm up and conscious, I really don't notice it being unusual.
Andria
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