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Thanks for posting that Mactavish. (and the kind words)

I was trying to follow the spinning thread to see if it was worthwhile doing that.... for me it is not really as I like to know that the carto is not at total saturation point, this way there should be no leaks or gurgling or waste, although I remember some initial reports said they could fit no-more in after spinning others could get a few drops.
I did save a new empty carto and plan to do a test myself, just to see how far from that total saturation point a regular fill will achieve. (I would be happy with -3 drops)
I also set a power-drill up in my kitchen to test a centrifugal spin (spin liquid to outer wall) vs the Taryn Spin. (spin liquid to battery end) but am waiting on more empties to arrive.

It seems rather unnecessary, but I would still like to know just how close it comes.

also:

Thank-you! to everyone else posting back too, it really adds cred to the method.
 

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Tried this method last night. Works great for me! I had my original starter kit cartos pre-filled with marlboro juice (also received an ounce of marlboro liquid with it) After vaping on the pre-filled, I was dissapointed with them. decent flavor, but no vapor when exhaling. So my starter kit cartos have been sitting around on vacation....decided it must be the juice that i didn't like. Well, after finding this thread, I gathered up a couple of those cartos, rinsed them out and blew em dry...and then filled em up with that starter juice using this method. All I can say is WOW! This juice isn't so bad after all....I think it may be my favorite now, as a matter of fact. So thank you for resurrecting my starter kit cartos, and looking forward to resurrecting some of the other pre-filled I have bought since then (that didn't have decent flavor or vapor). I am thinking I will never buy pre-filled again....just empties and juice.
Thanks Again!
 

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I just got some blank cartos in the other day and tried out this method today.

The first one, I placed 0.5 ml juice in the condom. After pushing the carto all the way down, I saw no evidence of overfill, so I added 0.2 ml more juice and the carto sopped it up, for a total of 0.7 ml.

I tried it with another blank carto. This time I just started with 0.7 ml in the condom. I got just past half way down and started seeing juice come out of the hole. :confused:

I was using a difference juice with the second one ... one with a higher viscosity. So, I let the carto/condom stack sit there for a few minutes and then tried to push down again ... no go, that second carto won't drink anywhere near as much juice. What's up with that?

Anyway, I haven't tried the slacker yet. The first one vapes great!
 

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I just got some blank cartos in the other day and tried out this method today.

The first one, I placed 0.5 ml juice in the condom. After pushing the carto all the way down, I saw no evidence of overfill, so I added 0.2 ml more juice and the carto sopped it up, for a total of 0.7 ml.

I tried it with another blank carto. This time I just started with 0.7 ml in the condom. I got just past half way down and started seeing juice come out of the hole. :confused:

I was using a difference juice with the second one ... one with a higher viscosity. So, I let the carto/condom stack sit there for a few minutes and then tried to push down again ... no go, that second carto won't drink anywhere near as much juice. What's up with that?

Anyway, I haven't tried the slacker yet. The first one vapes great!

I think you answered your own question, no? The "thicker" juice itself. If both cartomizers were the same brand, and NEW, they should hold the same amount, so the juice was the only difference, correct? I have been able to squeeze a few more drops in of my "PG" juice, by waiting till the juice begins to "peek" out of the atty/batttery hole, removing condom with juice. Then juice holding my fingers on both holes and shacking up/down in my hand, then pushing a bit more fluid up again from condom. The shacking moves it around inside carto a bit, about the same amount as the "spinning" did, but without going through that trouble.

On Cartos that I have reloaded this way, it's a little more tricky, as you don't want to suck the carto completely dry, not good if you want the atty to last long, so I tend to REFILL before it is completely empty. I have read of someone using 15 drops in the condom, I have found I can get 12 in, then shake, and then get the additional 3 drops in. A NEW-EMPTY carto seems to take 20 drops from a 30ml plastic bottle drip. Those who open the cartos, removing the plastic cap and rubber grommet, and manually add their juice, and then spin em, have reported getting up to 30 drops in, sometimes spinning more then once. The extra time and work is not worth it to me, I like the QUICK and EASY refill method, even though I am not able to MAX fill. Still seems like the condom refill method floods the whole carto, can only assume the spinning pushes the juice into place inside the carto that pushing it it does not reach, but no big deal to me.
 

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Tried this method last night. Works great for me! I had my original starter kit cartos pre-filled with marlboro juice (also received an ounce of marlboro liquid with it) After vaping on the pre-filled, I was dissapointed with them. decent flavor, but no vapor when exhaling. So my starter kit cartos have been sitting around on vacation....decided it must be the juice that i didn't like. Well, after finding this thread, I gathered up a couple of those cartos, rinsed them out and blew em dry...and then filled em up with that starter juice using this method. All I can say is WOW! This juice isn't so bad after all....I think it may be my favorite now, as a matter of fact. So thank you for resurrecting my starter kit cartos, and looking forward to resurrecting some of the other pre-filled I have bought since then (that didn't have decent flavor or vapor). I am thinking I will never buy pre-filled again....just empties and juice.
Thanks Again!

The pre-filled NEW cartomizers always seem a tough draw at first, and don't seem to last long. Get more vape time after a condom refill with my own juice. I couldn't find much info on 6 volt cartomizer vapeing so I tried it with my GGTS mod. (2) x 3.0 volt LIFEPO4 batteries, on both a NEW pre-filled carto, and on refilled cartos. Figured if it blew the atty, no big deal I'd just throw it away. But I was SURPRISED how great it works. Much more vapor, can take much shorter draws, less time, less time the atty is heated up. I know others have done this, some reported they felt the vapor was a little more "harsh", but I found it working great on FRESH refills, good flavor, great vapor. You just get less time overall before needing to refill, you go through the juice FASTER at higher voltages I guess. It even made vaping a fresh new PRE-Filled carto vape better, less "sluggish". The atty's in these cartomizers may be cheaper overall, compared to the atomizers we buy separately, but they seem to be made very well, so as not to anger folks that buy them, they seem to be able to take the EXTRA "voltage" very nicely. Maybe over the long term, they might not last as long, but I've been vapeing at 6 volts on the same one for a few days now, and it's been great. If you have a Mod and can go 6 volts, or a passthrough that can do 5 volts, give it a try!
 

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Dogsbody - I was really skeptical about this, I saw loads of reasons for disaster. I was wrong, this is a great refill method. I do my "wash and refills" on Sunday with your method. I still may take a small bottle of juice with me for "topping off" now and then but I don't need to top off as much.

Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to share your ideas. You've helped a lot of people.
 

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Hey Dogsbody;

Incase you are interested you have a new fan... I have been using your technique and sharing it with others. Congrats on the great idea! That's what I call thinking outside the cart...

YouTube - A Great Way To Fill Cartomizers

Luke

I like your videos, much better then most of the webcam videos, and you know to keep them short. Many UTube videos about e-cigs are unedited, and some close to 10 minutes long, with about 3 minutes of useful information.

I would add to this subject, that filling from the cap end is a bit better, as someone noted when pulling the cap off when done refilling at the atty end, the internal rubber gasket can be pulled down or into the carto from suction, not sure, but has some logic, and you have more of a juice mess cleanup on the battery threads. If you load from the cap end, and go slowly which you should to get a more full refill, then as you push you can watch the atty/thread end to see when the fluid is just starting to "peek" out the hole, and then STOP pushing. This way, you get little to NO juice on the threads. What I do, is then put my fingers on both holes and SHAKE the carto, and I can then push a bit more fluid into the carto.

I also do what you suggested in one of your other videos, a very LIGHT blow from the Atty/connection end through the hole, just to clear it out a bit, and I can see through it every time. Either way you push the juice through can at times get a bit of juice into your mouth, but I push on a soft tip 801 tip, and this works well.

Keep up the good video work! I've bookmarked your website! :)
 

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This video got me interested in cartomizers and it is one thing I know little about.

Are there any cartomizers available for 510's.
Or do I need to buy an adapter?
Who sells them?
The best place to buy cartomizers?
How long does your cartomizer fill last?

Any links to a guide to cartomizers?

DonDaBoomVapes guide only mentions 808's and Greencigs...is that it still?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

Thanks
 

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Personally, this is the greatest tip i've ever seen. I think you should be nominated for one of those vapy awards...

Great idea...love it..totally love it. Thank You , Thank You

Lol, love your enthusiasm, thanks for the super-positive feedback.

Oh wow! 2 thumbs up! :thumbs: I have a whole bunch of cartos that need refilling and a box 50 blanks plus another 20-30 blanks. They've been sitting in a drawer but I will put them to good use now! This is so easy a baby could do it. THANK YOU!

Yes, this way seems to work best when doing a heap at a time... I cant wait untill the chinese holidays are over so I can order another 50 or so... although I am amazed at how long they last. I have tried deliberately killing some vaping at 7.2v but they just wont die.

I thought dripping into a carto was easy! This works soooooo good! The creepy background music is a great touch! haha I saw this a little while ago and never tried it. I'm so glad I did! Great tip

Lol, sorry about that music... the kids had just finished watching "The Son of Rambo" and it is the title-loop track.. I didn't think my phone would pick up the sound.

This video got me interested in cartomizers and it is one thing I know little about.

1 Are there any cartomizers available for 510's.
2 Or do I need to buy an adapter?
3 Who sells them?
4 The best place to buy cartomizers?
5 How long does your cartomizer fill last?

6 Any links to a guide to cartomizers?

7 DonDaBoomVapes guide only mentions 808's and Greencigs...is that it still?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html

Thanks
1- not yet
2- yes (but the kanga/808 batteries are much better ie hold better voltage and last much longer)
3- Heaven Gifts, Health Cabin and many various US suppliers
4- they are all pretty much the same (imo) so I go for the cheapest/best service. I mainly shop in China as the shipping to Australia is quicker and cheaper- Eastmall $1 ea. or most china suppliers are about $1.25-$1.50 ea
For US suppliers: LeCig (D1,D2 & Geencig) and V4L (good range of liquid for prefilled) spring to mind, but there are many others. I would just try to get them from your favorite juice supplier.
5- Depends how you vape really.... I chain-vape most of the day and suck a carto dry in about 30 mins. (compared to a 901 or 510 cart in about 5-10 mins) But one carto can last my wife all day.
6- The beauty of cartos is you dont really need to know much, just fill 'em and vape. Give them a clean when you feel like they need it. (boil without the caps on, rinse under tap, syringe etc..)
7- I think thats it- 808D-1, 808D-2 and Greencigs. I have heard the Greencigs are supposed to be better (havent tried them yet). There is not much difference between the D1 and D2 except the thread is incompatable. So I would recommend the D1 as more people stock them.

OMG this is sweet. I never have to take a cap off again. Thanks guys.

No probs, thanks for replying. Even though it's not necessary I still pop the caps off every now and then to check the insides and to clean the cap, it can help while filling too, so you can see the liquid level and stop at the o-ring if filling from the thread-side, to avoid getting liquid stuck on top of the o-ring.

Thanks to everyone else that has replied back too!
 

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I have tried deliberately killing some vaping at 7.2v but they just wont die.

I Love the carto also. The heating coil will last much longer than the filler however. I would highly encourage you to dissect one of those cartos you were working at 7.2 volts. The filler is polyfil and between that and the coil is a special piece of paper. What I have found, even at 3.7 volts is that its very easy to burn thru the paper. Once the polyfil comes in contact with the now bare coil, it begins to melt, and burn. I for one can taste it. Reminds me of lighting the wrong end of an analog. However, some people can't taste it or don't notice it. If you are one of those, you may be inhaling burning polyester. So, do a sanity check and dissect a carto or two once in awhile.

The moral is to keep them VERY wet. I usually pulse the power button on and off when hitting on anything higher than 3.7 volts.
 

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I Love the carto also. The heating coil will last much longer than the filler however. I would highly encourage you to dissect one of those cartos you were working at 7.2 volts. The filler is polyfil and between that and the coil is a special piece of paper. What I have found, even at 3.7 volts is that its very easy to burn thru the paper. Once the polyfil comes in contact with the now bare coil, it begins to melt, and burn. I for one can taste it. Reminds me of lighting the wrong end of an analog. However, some people can't taste it or don't notice it. If you are one of those, you may be inhaling burning polyester. So, do a sanity check and dissect a carto or two once in awhile.

The moral is to keep them VERY wet. I usually pulse the power button on and off when hitting on anything higher than 3.7 volts.

Excellent advice, as I just read and learned about the "paper" inside, so since I just started running my refilled cartomizers at 6 volts, I will open them up every few refills to check, after all that's why they advertise and sell them as DISPOSABLE! They don't design them to be refilled, so it's up to us, when saving money, to be SMART and SAFE. Good post!
 
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