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DonDaBoomVape

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You said: "The convenience of buying a pack of smoke's should be the same as buying refills for your ecig."

Refilling e-cigs can be more convenient, but the process (and the entire vaping experience) is a bit more complicated and just different (and, for most of us, well worth the extra effort and far more enjoyable). Its purchasing process is analogous to buying one or more cartons of analogs at a time, rather than a pack at a time.

In general, don't expect vaping to be the same as smoking. It's not. [I think it is far better ... but you may have a period of adjustment.] The vaporizing of the e-liquid (analogous to burning of the tobacco), the draw, inhalation, "throat hit," and flavor are all somewhat different.

You have received some fine advice here, especially those links provided by wv2win and tiffytiff.

I want to underscore wv2win's caution about locally-sold e-cigs (e.g., at the mall) and mass advertised/marketed ones like the Blu. They are mediocre at best, supported by poor customer service, and, in most cases, way overpriced. And, if in fact you "don't like waiting," avoid Blu like the plague!

Speaking of waiting (and refillability), don't worry about ordering online from the suppliers recommended here. Most have lightning fast delivery (I usually get my stuff in 2-3 days). Even China-based Ruyandirect is amazing: sometimes less than a week. Make sure you have at least a couple extra atomizers and batteries and several cartidges and/or e-liquid to tide you over until your new supply arrives.

As a rule of thumb, go with the suppliers participating here in ECF - not only the "Supporting Suppliers" listed toward the bottom of the forum main page, but also those like Rocky Mountain Vapor and CigEasy (who, I suspect, don't have the advertising budget to support) and China-based Ruyandirect.com (aka Heaven-gifts.com).


Rocky Mountain Vapor and Ruyandirect.com already have been recommended (and my personal experience confirms that recommendation). [Ruyandirect has the cheapest prices, but their shipping costs are pretty steep; compared to RMV's free shipping.] I have added CigEasy because:
  1. I've also dealt with them (positively),
  2. They also have low prices, and
  3. They have a model you might also want to consider: the KR808D-1.
The KR808D-1 (marketed under such names as Vapor King, Easy Cig, Mist-Six, NHaler, Nebula, and Zeus) is a two-part e-cig (most are three parts: cartridge + atomizer + battery, not counting the mouthpiece), in which the cartridge and atomizer are combined to make a disposable "cartomizer."

The KR808D-1 is about the same size as a 510, but with a larger battery (and smaller cartridge/atomizer). It probably is the simplest e-cig, since you just screw a cartomizer onto the battery and don't need to deal with e-liquid (unless you want to stretch the life of that disposable cartomizer). It was for this reason that it was my first e-cig purchase.

The battery is automatic, not manual, but I never had a problem with it. I don't share wv2win's distain for the auto switch, at least not all of them. Some (I have read) are activated by sound or movement; so, for example, carrying a Blu (or the old auto switch 510) into a nightclub is a nightmare. But my KR808D-1 and my DSE801 batteries all have responded only to my sucking on them. The only downside to the auto switch (for the type of batteries I've just described), as far as I am concerned, is the fact that they are unsealed, so that dripping liquid directly on the atomizer is problematic (it might leak into the battery).

The vapor, flavor, and throat hit all are good (though not the very best), but those cartomizers can get expensive. [FYI: Many of the batteries do have a blue LED.] If simplicity (and not having to deal with e-liquid) is important to you, it is worthy of your consideration. BTW, NHaler (that Joytech 510 link provided by tiffytiff) also carries the KR808D-1 ... and some very good e-liquid. Drew is another one of the suppliers you can count on for great service.


I've gone on for far too long. Let me wrap this up by pointing you to two very helpful threads:
  1. Attention newbies: Pics of most common models here - its value is self-explanatory. [Be aware, however, that the picture for the "KR 808/ Vapor King/ VK" is incorrect.]
  2. Leaford's New(est) Five Favorites! and Leaford's Video Blog 8-5: Runner Ups and Honorable Mentions - We don't all share his preferences or ranking order, but he provides a good overview of the most popular models, pointing out their respective strengths and weaknesses. [And don't ignore that second video, thinking you just want the best. For example, his #1 recommended device (the DSE901) for a new vaper is included there, as well as my beloved DSE801 penstyle.*
* Second only to my Prodigy (using the 801 atomizer).

Happy vaping!
 

autrad

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Do trust the advice you are getting here. Been there, Done that. 1st one was an expensive disaster because I was on a long trip in a company vehicle where I couldn't smoke and suckered for one in a quick stop. It did get me off tobacco, but had I read the good advice of people with a lot of experience on the forum I'd have saved a lot of frustration and money and had better results right away. Also go to you tube and watch people like GrimmGreen and the people he follows on his channel, you'll get a lot of good advice. I've advised the same to a lot of friends, but often they are in a rush and go ahead and blow it the first time. You get used to anticipating needs and ordering early on line. The mailbox has become a very convenient friend and it saves me a lot of gas and time going to the stores.
 

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Thank You everyone for all the good information. It means so much to me that people care about giving others like me advice about what good products are out there and which ones to avoid. This is still a new industry and most everyone I've talked to that smokes say that they've never heard of an electronic cigarette. I've looked at so many websites and some peoples prices are so rediculous. And I'm not talking about the more upscale PV's because I know that those are worth the money. I'm talking about the Joye/Yeti/Titan 510, or whatever the hell you want to call it. Looks like they call it the Titan in the U.K. and it appears that these are all the same product with different names but I could be wrong.

I told my wife about refilling with e-liquid when my 510 gets here and she seemed sketchy about the idea. Even I'm sketchy about the idea but everyone on here says that its easy. I'm gonna refill and drip my own anyways before the governmant steps in and starts regulating e-liquid, because e-liquid sounds dangerous, especially in the hand of a child. I don't have any children so I'm not worried about that but has anybody tried to drink the stuff?

Here I am rambling on...Thanks again for everyone helpful posts.
 
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