Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[LouisLeBeau]

I'm back on a dripping kick (I ALWAYS come back to dripping) and recently received the fabulously priced DigitalCiggz 5 packs of joyetech atty's. For $2/pc, they're tough to beat but to my taste, they are still a little short of my beloved HH's. The price difference though, is tough to ignore. I like 306's too, they're a bit different (hotter) and I think the HH gives better flavor, but there is one setup I had yet to try.

So I've decided to try the purported "holy grail" of dripping, and just ordered a few 901 atty's from Empiremods, a 510 to 901 adapter, and I already have a drip shield. I'm going to setup 3 identical mech mods. One with a cisco 306, one with a joyetech 510, and another with a 901 with shield and drip the same juice in all 3. All 1.5ohms with a fresh battery.

I'll post my thoughts in this thread once I receive them and have a chance to compare.

 

[y cherry y]

I'm back on a dripping kick (I ALWAYS come back to dripping) and recently received the fabulously priced DigitalCiggz 5 packs of Joyetech atty's. For $2/pc, they're tough to beat but to my taste, they are still a little short of my beloved HH's. The price difference though, is tough to ignore. I like 306's too, they're a bit different (hotter) and I think the HH gives better flavor, but there is one setup I had yet to try.

So I've decided to try the purported "holy grail" of dripping, and just ordered a few 901 atty's from Empiremods, a 510 to 901 adapter, and I already have a drip shield. I'm going to setup 3 identical mech mods. One with a cisco 306, one with a joyetech 510, and another with a 901 with shield and drip the same juice in all 3. All 1.5ohms with a fresh battery.

I'll post my thoughts in this thread once I receive them and have a chance to compare.

After finding the same lack of flavor with those Joye's, I've started debridging them, which works well. The flavor and performance is much improved. They're still not going to taste like the HH, but much better than they had with the bridge and all the thick wicking under it.. I just followed Mergryphon's easy guide:

Debridging a 510 Atomizer - YouTube

 

[LouisLeBeau]

After finding the same lack of flavor with those Joye's, I've started debridging them, which works well. The flavor and performance is much improved. They're still not going to taste like the HH, but much better than they had with the bridge and all the thick wicking under it.. I just followed Mergryphon's easy guide:

Debridging a 510 Atomizer - YouTube

Thanks, Y! Of course, debridging them was the first thing I did. I really don't understand the continued production of bridged atomizers. From what I understand, the whole original purpose of a bridge was to contact the filler material and carry the juice to the atty, when the atty was made carto style. I don't use bottom style feeding mods, or carto's, so when I have a choice I prefer sealed, unbridged atomizers. You'd think they'd be more common.

 

[RuDawg7890]

I'm back on a dripping kick (I ALWAYS come back to dripping) and recently received the fabulously priced DigitalCiggz 5 packs of Joyetech atty's. For $2/pc, they're tough to beat but to my taste, they are still a little short of my beloved HH's. The price difference though, is tough to ignore. I like 306's too, they're a bit different (hotter) and I think the HH gives better flavor, but there is one setup I had yet to try.

So I've decided to try the purported "holy grail" of dripping, and just ordered a few 901 atty's from Empiremods, a 510 to 901 adapter, and I already have a drip shield. I'm going to setup 3 identical mech mods. One with a cisco 306, one with a joyetech 510, and another with a 901 with shield and drip the same juice in all 3. All 1.5ohms with a fresh battery.

I'll post my thoughts in this thread once I receive them and have a chance to compare.

I wanted to place an order with Empire last night, as I want to dry dripping, mainly to try new flavors, and just for the heck of it! I decided not to order because Empire is out of stock on ALL of their drip shields! Do I really need the shield to start? Other shield options?

 

[y cherry y]

I wanted to place an order with Empire last night, as I want to dry dripping, mainly to try new flavors, and just for the heck of it! I decided not to order because Empire is out of stock on ALL of their drip shields! Do I really need the shield to start? Other shield options?

Only with a 901 atty, which has an air intake hole on the side that allows liberal leaking. The shield was designed to save that lost juice. I use them with 510's also, but mainly to tighten he draw. You can drip successfully with 510 or 306 atties without a shield. In addition to their famous 901p atties, Empire makes very good 510's. Jump right in!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Thanks, Y! Of course, debridging them was the first thing I did. I really don't understand the continued production of bridged atomizers. From what I understand, the whole original purpose of a bridge was to contact the filler material and carry the juice to the atty, when the atty was made carto style. I don't use bottom style feeding mods, or carto's, so when I have a choice I prefer sealed, unbridged atomizers. You'd think they'd be more common.

My take.

While this is true, for some reason that bridge has a positive effect on longevity and overall performance. Bridgeless attys seems to be quite finicky with how much liquid they can handle (flooding), the heat they can handle (once they get fried they seem to stay fried and end up producing little anemic wisps of vapor) and they also have a tendency (HHs being the absolute worse) for spitting liquid back (my absolute BIGGEST pet peeve aside from that laughable wisp of vapor with worn out EM attys). I love EM attys for the first day, but after that they suck for me and I haven't had one that lasted longer than a couple days with the exact same performance it provided from jumpstreet. My Joyes on the other hand are consistent when they work, as not all do (that is the case with all attys), but for the price + performance + longevity, I need no other atty than the DC Joye deal.

I get no real life out of bridgeless attys and consider them to be truly disposable, and that was the case from bridgeless attys from Ahlusion, Rawr (Roar), EmpireMods, Cisco "specs," and Aeros (except for the slant coils from Vapage, though I still don't prefer them). I haven't debrigded a Joye in I don't know how long and I continually get great flavor, great vapor (compared to other attys) and fantastic TH. For me, the bridge is there, maybe not for practical reasons, but it seems to hold the integrity of the atty in place. If I ever debridge an atty it's because it finally stopped working properly, and even then, debriging it is ONLY about de-wicking and not necessarily debridging. That's the key, when you debridge a Joye, the key point is that you are taking wicking material out (which decreases the liquid-holding capacity), and if you use your attys with hardcore NETs or something, you may just have to do without that wicking material. When I used to vape a lot of NETs from w2v, taking out that impossibly gunked wick was necessary to get extended life out of the atty. Now I learned that as long as you don't have too much of an extended vape session with quick-to-gunk liquids, and if you flush out the atty with a clean, synthetic, higher PG liquid, all will be fine with no invasive operating necessary.

 

[e-pipeman]

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[RuDawg7890]

Only with a 901 atty, which has an air intake hole on the side that allows liberal leaking. The shield was designed to save that lost juice. I use them with 510's also, but mainly to tighten he draw. You can drip successfully with 510 or 306 atties without a shield. In addition to their famous 901p atties, Empire makes very good 510's. Jump right in!

Thanks for explaining. They are also out of 510 atty.'s. They do have imported shields available. Just ordered their premium 901s, an adapter & a China shield. Can't wait to try my first drip! Will come in handy with my Alice in Vapeland "Little bit of everything" pack!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Thanks for explaining. They are also out of 510 atty.'s. They do have imported shields available. Just ordered their premium 901s, an adapter & a China shield. Can't wait to try my first drip! Will come in handy with my Alice in Vapeland "Little bit of everything" pack!

The Premium 901s are great on the first day. Outside of my previously stated issues with EM, the one thing about 901s is they have STUPENDOUS flavor, but little to zero TH. You should be fine getting to know dripping with that atty though.

 

[y cherry y]

My take.

While this is true, for some reason that bridge has a positive effect on longevity and overall performance. Bridgeless attys seems to be quite finicky with how much liquid they can handle (flooding), the heat they can handle (once they get fried they seem to stay fried and end up producing little anemic wisps of vapor) and they also have a tendency (HHs being the absolute worse) for spitting liquid back (my absolute BIGGEST pet peeve aside from that laughable wisp of vapor with worn out EM attys). I love EM attys for the first day, but after that they suck for me and I haven't had one that lasted longer than a couple days with the exact same performance it provided from jumpstreet. My Joyes on the other hand are consistent when they work, as not all do (that is the case with all attys), but for the price + performance + longevity, I need no other atty than the DC Joye deal.

I get no real life out of bridgeless attys and consider them to be truly disposable, and that was the case from bridgeless attys from Ahlusion, Rawr (Roar), EmpireMods, Cisco "specs," and Aeros (except for the slant coils from Vapage, though I still don't prefer them). I haven't debrigded a Joye in I don't know how long and I continually get great flavor, great vapor (compared to other attys) and fantastic TH. For me, the bridge is there, maybe not for practical reasons, but it seems to hold the integrity of the atty in place. If I ever debridge an atty it's because it finally stopped working properly, and even then, debriging it is ONLY about de-wicking and not necessarily debridging. That's the key, when you debridge a Joye, the key point is that you are taking wicking material out (which decreases the liquid-holding capacity), and if you use your attys with hardcore NETs or something, you may just have to do without that wicking material. When I used to vape a lot of NETs from w2v, taking out that impossibly gunked wick was necessary to get extended life out of the atty. Now I learned that as long as you don't have too much of an extended vape session with quick-to-gunk liquids, and if you flush out the atty with a clean, synthetic, higher PG liquid, all will be fine with no invasive operating necessary.

I agree with much of what you say. But great flavor from the Joyes -- no, not for me. Removing the wick and bridge improves them a lot, but the flavor isn't close to any of the others you name. I think we're just not gonna see eye to eye on this subject. The HH's do spit before break-in -- which is why I use the long-barrel models. I'll have to try just taking the big wick out of a Joye the next time and see how it works.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I agree with much of what you say. But great flavor from the Joyes -- no, not for me. Removing the wick and bridge improves them a lot, but the flavor isn't close to any of the others you name. I think we're just not gonna see eye to eye on this subject. The HH's do spit before break-in -- which is why I use the long-barrel models. I'll have to try just taking the big wick out of a Joye the next time and see how it works.

Let's not forget that the one HUGE point that makes an atty work better for some as oppose to others is vaping style. Yes, how you vape has to be in line with what you use to vape (though, a fried atty is always a fried atty). How I vape is best suited for the Joyes and maybe IKVs (those big ones, I forget the name though), though those IKVs are little quirky .......s.

If I put my HH on a box mod, it would be akin to this:

Seriously though, I do wholeheartedly believe that the instrument is just that--an instrument. Some people swear by Ricks, when I am not a fan of solid body-state basses. I am a Fender man (P or J basses) and swear by those (whether 70s models or new, though I stick to American made). Some like Warwick for the sound of "wood." Either which way, I tend to be rather old school in a lot of my choices of tools.

Ha! Joyetech is the Fender of vaping. LOL

 

[Lucas Calderon]

I kinda like my RBA, but I have to say, I'll always love my regular attys better. I gotta agree with cskent, the learning curve is just too ridiculous. Building coils, trying desperately to find the perfect build, seems pretty stupid to me when you can get a great vape off a regular atty and they are such lower maintenance.

 

[chapeltown]

Very cool to run into this thread!!!
I just began dripping this morning... I got
KP Long Barrel Sealed Atomizer - Kidney Puncher
last night, and tried it out this morning. This thing is awesome!!!
need to get a drip guard I think.....

total noob question.....how long with this last before I need to buy more?

 

[y cherry y]

Very cool to run into this thread!!!
I just began dripping this morning... I got
KP Long Barrel Sealed Atomizer - Kidney Puncher
last night, and tried it out this morning. This thing is awesome!!!
need to get a drip guard I think.....

total noob question.....how long with this last before I need to buy more?

Somewhere between two days and six months. Seriously. Read the info on cleaning and maintenance.

 

[Jerms]

Very cool to run into this thread!!!
I just began dripping this morning... I got
KP Long Barrel Sealed Atomizer - Kidney Puncher
last night, and tried it out this morning. This thing is awesome!!!
need to get a drip guard I think.....

total noob question.....how long with this last before I need to buy more?

Well, if you have just one you'll want to get another right away. Then, like Cherry said, it's up to the atty Gods how long it will last. I've had atties that lasted well over a year, and some that died within a day.

 

[chapeltown]

Awesome. Thank you both!
I have two, ordered one at 1.5 ohms and one at 2.0. Haven't opened to 2.0 yet. .....as for maintenance I was looking around for some instructions, haven't found any....would it be similar/same as what I do for my Protank heads? Rinse in warm/hot water, do a soak in isopropyl alcohol, rinse and dry?

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[Faylool]

I find myself still dripping. I finally filled my glass tank with punched carto and its fine but I drip atties and and cartos all the time still. I have several glass tanks. Kinda lost count. And dozens and dozens of punched cartos! What to do? Wait until I get tired of dripping???? Not. I guess just do both for a change

 

[Jerms]

Awesome. Thank you both!
I have two, ordered one at 1.5 ohms and one at 2.0. Haven't opened to 2.0 yet. .....as for maintenance I was looking around for some instructions, haven't found any....would it be similar/same as what I do for my Protank heads? Rinse in warm/hot water, do a soak in isopropyl alcohol, rinse and dry?

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Up to you how you want to do it. The only thing that NEEDs to be done is an occasional blow out (blow hard through either end with a paper towel on the other side). If you vape juices that don't gunk up on coils much, you can go a while just doing that. You can also dry burn it (carefully) to burn off carbonized gunk on the coil.

My prefered method was more involved, but for me it kept the atty working like new for a longer period. I always had at least a few atties that I rotated. After a day or three, depending on what I was vaping, I would soak the atty in 91% isoproyl alcohol (vodka, everclear, or another high alcohol, clear spirit is prefered to iso, but as an alcoholic I don't keep drinkable alcohol around), then I would blow it out well, fill it with plain VG to keep the wick from drying out, and put carto condoms on each end until I used it again.

I found that routine to keep my atties at optimal performance over my old routine of dry burning. Always keeping the wick wet and never letting it dry out really kept it in top shape, but many others prefer the simplicity of dry burning.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I find myself still dripping. I finally filled my glass tank with punched carto and its fine but I drip atties and and cartos all the time still. I have several glass tanks. Kinda lost count. And dozens and dozens of punched cartos! What to do? Wait until I get tired of dripping???? Not. I guess just do both for a change

Wow. Haven't seen you in awhile, Fay. How's it going?

 

[y cherry y]

Up to you how you want to do it. The only thing that NEEDs to be done is an occasional blow out (blow hard through either end with a paper towel on the other side). If you vape juices that don't gunk up on coils much, you can go a while just doing that. You can also dry burn it (carefully) to burn off carbonized gunk on the coil.

My prefered method was more involved, but for me it kept the atty working like new for a longer period. I always had at least a few atties that I rotated. After a day or three, depending on what I was vaping, I would soak the atty in 91% isoproyl alcohol (vodka, everclear, or another high alcohol, clear spirit is prefered to iso, but as an alcoholic I don't keep drinkable alcohol around), then I would blow it out well, fill it with plain VG to keep the wick from drying out, and put carto condoms on each end until I used it again.

I found that routine to keep my atties at optimal performance over my old routine of dry burning. Always keeping the wick wet and never letting it dry out really kept it in top shape, but many others prefer the simplicity of dry burning.

Yup, exactly.