Blowing out the atty from the battery end when it starts to "tug" a bit is all I do. Any liquid other than eliquid that comes in contact with your atty is likely to do it harm in my experience. Ymmv.
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Ok so I just went to a b&m and asked if they had any atty's for dripping. The guy looks at me funny and then says we don't sell rda's. So I giggle and say no, I am just looking for a 510 atomizer, ya know "old-school" cig alike cartridge thingy...."ooooohhhhh" he says. 7 bones was steep but I am loving this way of vaping so far. I will never waste a whole tank on anything ever again. Furthermore, the flavor is insane. Cloud chase this bruh!! LOL.
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Hi Mr.Mann, Shari sent me over here after I mentioned wanting to give dripping a try. I ordered a few 510 bridgeless attys to try it out before going all in on one of those unmentionables here. 
The 510's arrived this morning and I gave one a try, I've been using the Aspire glass tanks and yes the flavor from them is very close to dripping, but one thing I see immediately is that I am going to have to order lower nic liquids. LOL Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
I'm not having any difficulty at all so far, just thought I'd say hi.
The 510's arrived this morning and I gave one a try, I've been using the Aspire glass tanks and yes the flavor from them is very close to dripping, but one thing I see immediately is that I am going to have to order lower nic liquids. LOL Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
I'm not having any difficulty at all so far, just thought I'd say hi.
Please, resident experts. Take care of my good friend Claudia. Any important newbie dripper pointers would be appreciated. I gave her some of my dripping pointers but I am sure I missed some of your gems, since I am still fairly new at this too. How do you all properly 'break in' a new atty? I seem to rush things. I may need to be schooled again too.
I don't have any specific pointers or tips. Thankfully, atty-dripping isn't rocket science---most anyone with a decent brain and a bit of gumption will figure out the dos and don'ts quickly and easily, at least most of the time. Occasionally, with stuff like dry-burning or de-bridging, an atomizer may get destroyed on the learning curve, but it you buy standard JoyeTech atties from DigitalCiggz for less than two bucks each (as many of us who participate in this thread do), that's no big deal.
Reading on ECF will provide a wealth of information, but I'd suggest taking with a grain of salt whatever instructions/advice/rules appear in posts. Some are brilliant gems, some are bogus, and some just flat-out wrong. Some will work great for the poster but badly for a given reader. If common sense dictates that a certain technique, procedure, or modification might be worth a try, then go for it. If it seems ridiculous (or, even worse, dangerous), think twice, let caution guide you, and read some more posts before taking a chance.
For instance, many vendors/experts suggest "blowing out" an atty into a tissue to purge any remaining juice (when changing flavors, for instance, or before storage) ONLY from the connector end. The logic is that blowing out the atty from the mouthpiece end might damage the coil. OK, I get that, but in real life blowing out the atty from the connector end never worked well for me, and I didn't like how it felt on top of that. So I have always blown out my atties from the mouthpiece, expelling the juice through the connector end and into the tissue. That works nicely for me, I like it, and I've never ruined an atty doing it that way, at least not that I'm aware. I never blew out my HH357 atties because their creator said not to, and, at 20 bucks a pop, I didn't want to take a chance. But I blow out all my other standard atties whenever I change juice flavors.
That doesn't mean that someone else should blow-clean their atties either the recommended way or how I do it. Heck, some dripping vapers don't blow out their atties at all. Others boil them in water or vodka for cleaning. Each person can decide for him/herself which "rules" to follow and which to break or ignore. The one exception I'd note are posts about battery safety. Those seem fairly essential and important from where I sit, and one ignores them at the risk of personal injury.
Reading on ECF will provide a wealth of information, but I'd suggest taking with a grain of salt whatever instructions/advice/rules appear in posts. Some are brilliant gems, some are bogus, and some just flat-out wrong. Some will work great for the poster but badly for a given reader. If common sense dictates that a certain technique, procedure, or modification might be worth a try, then go for it. If it seems ridiculous (or, even worse, dangerous), think twice, let caution guide you, and read some more posts before taking a chance.
For instance, many vendors/experts suggest "blowing out" an atty into a tissue to purge any remaining juice (when changing flavors, for instance, or before storage) ONLY from the connector end. The logic is that blowing out the atty from the mouthpiece end might damage the coil. OK, I get that, but in real life blowing out the atty from the connector end never worked well for me, and I didn't like how it felt on top of that. So I have always blown out my atties from the mouthpiece, expelling the juice through the connector end and into the tissue. That works nicely for me, I like it, and I've never ruined an atty doing it that way, at least not that I'm aware. I never blew out my HH357 atties because their creator said not to, and, at 20 bucks a pop, I didn't want to take a chance. But I blow out all my other standard atties whenever I change juice flavors.
That doesn't mean that someone else should blow-clean their atties either the recommended way or how I do it. Heck, some dripping vapers don't blow out their atties at all. Others boil them in water or vodka for cleaning. Each person can decide for him/herself which "rules" to follow and which to break or ignore. The one exception I'd note are posts about battery safety. Those seem fairly essential and important from where I sit, and one ignores them at the risk of personal injury.
I think it would be fun to give examples of what the poster above just said, so for example...
--I blow out my atomizers from the mouthpiece side (through the drip tip) every morning
--I never soak my atomizers or boil my atomizers
--I dry burn my atomizers whenever they seem like they need it
--I only use standard 510 atomizers, nothing fancy or expensive
--I never debridge my atomizers
--I never take my drip tip off for any reason other than to clean it or do a dry burn
--I do not rotate atomizers, I just use the same one until it's dead
--I do not clean the atomizer between switching flavors although I may blow it out between flavors sometimes
--I do not use drip shields
Now let's see how many differences people in this thread have from what I posted above.
--I blow out my atomizers from the mouthpiece side (through the drip tip) every morning
--I never soak my atomizers or boil my atomizers
--I dry burn my atomizers whenever they seem like they need it
--I only use standard 510 atomizers, nothing fancy or expensive
--I never debridge my atomizers
--I never take my drip tip off for any reason other than to clean it or do a dry burn
--I do not rotate atomizers, I just use the same one until it's dead
--I do not clean the atomizer between switching flavors although I may blow it out between flavors sometimes
--I do not use drip shields
Now let's see how many differences people in this thread have from what I posted above.
I think it would be fun to give examples of what the poster above just said, so for example...
--I blow out my atomizers from the mouthpiece side (through the drip tip) every morning
--I never soak my atomizers or boil my atomizers
--I dry burn my atomizers whenever they seem like they need it
--I only use standard 510 atomizers, nothing fancy or expensive
--I never debridge my atomizers
--I never take my drip tip off for any reason other than to clean it or do a dry burn
--I do not rotate atomizers, I just use the same one until it's dead
--I do not clean the atomizer between switching flavors although I may blow it out between flavors sometimes
--I do not use drip shields
Now let's see how many differences people in this thread have from what I posted above.
--I blow out my attys from the connector end.
--I have never boiled or soaked an atty.
--I have only dry burned my attys 3 times. First time I popped it. Second time and third time did not seem to lead to much of a difference to when I just blow them out so I stopped doing it.
--only Joye 510 attys here.
--Never debridged. Do not know how to.
--I drip through the tip. Tip comes off to blow out atty.
--I do not rotate attys. But I do have separate attys for different types of juices. Dedicated tobacco, dedicated mints, sometimes one dedicated to a specific flavor on my adv list (I have a couple of those rubber banded to it's bottle).
--I usually blow out atty between flavors, unless I am purposefully playing mix it up.
--I have never used a drip shield.
--I will mix flavors in my attys; a drop or two of this, a drop or two of that.
--I vape straight vg sometimes just to clear out my atty and my palate.
--I always put a drop or two of vg in an atty before I put it away for more than a couple of days; never store them dry.
As an aside, I always have more than 25 new attys in the wings. If my supply drops much below that I order another 25. I am well above 50 now and feel secure for now.
I try to make sure I have 10 years worth of everything, which for me that means I always have at least 70 atomizers.
Where can I get Real Joye 510 atty's? I used to buy them in a pack of 5...but vendor I use no longer sells them in packs.
Best place by far is DigitalCiggz. Authentic Joyetech gold band atties with name and logo. Standard resistance, 2.3 ohms. Unfortunately, they're sold out right now, so that doesn't help you much.
Here's a link anyway for later: Joyetech 510 atomizers, 5-pack $9.95
Yeah, this afternoon I went to buy another 20 atomizers, but the "sold out" thing stopped me.
But I'll be back (said in his finest Arnold Schwarzenegger voice)
Thanks everyone, I got busy for a couple of days and forgot to stop back in.
I'm not having any problems so far, other than realizing that I may want to drip lower nic liquids AND I'm not sure it was a good idea to visit some of my older liquids to see if I really wanted to keep them. Blechhhhhh I can't believe I actually liked those in the beginning. Thanks for the tips, I probably could have gotten rid of some of the nasty stuff a little more quickly than just shaking it like a thermometer and vaping, without inhaling, some straight pg/vg mix. I'm now soaking my tongue in strong black coffee trying to revive my taste buds after that.
I'm not having any problems so far, other than realizing that I may want to drip lower nic liquids AND I'm not sure it was a good idea to visit some of my older liquids to see if I really wanted to keep them. Blechhhhhh I can't believe I actually liked those in the beginning. Thanks for the tips, I probably could have gotten rid of some of the nasty stuff a little more quickly than just shaking it like a thermometer and vaping, without inhaling, some straight pg/vg mix. I'm now soaking my tongue in strong black coffee trying to revive my taste buds after that.
Well, as promised, I have been trying the 901 atty's from Empire Mods for the past two weeks. I have a lot of experience with 306's and 510's but had never tried an old school 901 with drip shield. And after two weeks, the verdict is in.
Do I love them, or hate them? The answer is, Yes.
Flavor-wise, they are the best of the three. The drip shield when used with a connector (510 to 901) is almost foolproof. You can over drip without a problem, and even when way over dripped (9-10 drops), they don't gurgle and perform just the same as when they are properly fed 4 or 5 when they need juice.
I've been without my ohm meter, and I believe these are 2 ohms. But they fire fast and hot, and I have to take a sharper, shorter pull or the liquid can taste burnt. Not sure why that would be, considering two ohms on an unregulated battery translates to a reasonable number of watts, no matter how you crunch the numbers. Lots of vapor, and as I said, amazing flavor. If that was all there was to these, I'd be sold.
My problem is after two weeks, I am on my 3rd atomizer. Two have died already. I don't know if it's Empire, or the 901, but the life span so far seems to be horrible. If anyone has any suggestions for a more reliably built 901, I'm all ears. Otherwise, I am appalled at the high failure rate. Dealing with the adapter when changing atty's can be a pain too. If over tightened, a pair of pliers is necessary and not always handy.
I've loved the HH357 510's, which my experience has been very low failure rate. Mostly, they just finally get too gunked up no matter how carefully I clean them after about 6 weeks and they gotta go. That's a relatively expensive usage experience at their lofty price.
At the end of the day, it seems our sage master of dripping, Mr. Mann, is on to the QPR champion of 5 pack Joyetech atomizers with the approximate $2/atty price when Digitalciggz runs that deal. Not quite the flavor of the 901, and a little fussier to deal with. Not as reliable as the HH357, but considering you get about 13 of them for the price of one HH, that is easily overlooked.
I really really do love the 901's. I don't mind Empires price, if they were more reliable. If anyone can point me to a more reliable 901 at a similar price point, I would appreciate the info and continue my research.
Do I love them, or hate them? The answer is, Yes.
Flavor-wise, they are the best of the three. The drip shield when used with a connector (510 to 901) is almost foolproof. You can over drip without a problem, and even when way over dripped (9-10 drops), they don't gurgle and perform just the same as when they are properly fed 4 or 5 when they need juice.
I've been without my ohm meter, and I believe these are 2 ohms. But they fire fast and hot, and I have to take a sharper, shorter pull or the liquid can taste burnt. Not sure why that would be, considering two ohms on an unregulated battery translates to a reasonable number of watts, no matter how you crunch the numbers. Lots of vapor, and as I said, amazing flavor. If that was all there was to these, I'd be sold.
My problem is after two weeks, I am on my 3rd atomizer. Two have died already. I don't know if it's Empire, or the 901, but the life span so far seems to be horrible. If anyone has any suggestions for a more reliably built 901, I'm all ears. Otherwise, I am appalled at the high failure rate. Dealing with the adapter when changing atty's can be a pain too. If over tightened, a pair of pliers is necessary and not always handy.
I've loved the HH357 510's, which my experience has been very low failure rate. Mostly, they just finally get too gunked up no matter how carefully I clean them after about 6 weeks and they gotta go. That's a relatively expensive usage experience at their lofty price.
At the end of the day, it seems our sage master of dripping, Mr. Mann, is on to the QPR champion of 5 pack Joyetech atomizers with the approximate $2/atty price when Digitalciggz runs that deal. Not quite the flavor of the 901, and a little fussier to deal with. Not as reliable as the HH357, but considering you get about 13 of them for the price of one HH, that is easily overlooked.
I really really do love the 901's. I don't mind Empires price, if they were more reliable. If anyone can point me to a more reliable 901 at a similar price point, I would appreciate the info and continue my research.
My experience is the opposite. The Premium 901's last almost forever for me.
It's puzzling to me that I have found that following the Hanna video directions to soak in alcohol and brush to be useless in keeping atties clean. In my experience an alcohol soak doesn't do much other than soak out juice in the atty while the gunk just laughs at the alcohol's pitiful efforts.
Despite Hanna's clear instructions to the contrary, I thoroughly rinse and dry burn HH.357s after running 3 to 5 ml of juice through them because that's when they start tasting icky to me. I'll do things Hanna's way when he swaps taste buds with me.
After rinsing and blowing out from the connector end a few times I blot out as much water as I can with a twisted paper towel. I dry burn at 5.5 watts. Once the coil starts to show orange I keep the pulses at less than a second.
Because my HH.357s never get that dirty it seldom takes over three to four pulses to clean them so the coils are glowing evenly. When I finally got desperate enough to dry burn my first HH.357 it was pretty gunky. I let it cool down after each series of five short pulses because I wondered if letting the heat build up might harm something in the atty.
After pulsing clean I let the atty cool, dust the ash off with a small artist's brush and blow it out again through the connector end. I keep ten of my eleven HH.357's in rotation so I don't know how long they would last if I used them one at a time. However, knock on wood, none have died yet with my first being purchased in April.
That, in a nutshell, is my Golden Rule of Vaping: Where my vaping is concerned, everyone else's opinions, beliefs, recommendations, and rules take a back seat to mine. While I respect many people in the vaping community---Hanna among them---I don't confer unquestioned authority on anyone. I may try out what others advise, but it's not gospel to me, and if my experience differs from theirs, I choose mine.
To me, ECF is like a massive compendium of personal diaries. Interesting to read, good to know, but other people's lives, not mine.
Has my iconoclasm ever backfired on me? Yes, on rare occasions, but I'm still glad I went my own way, even if I had to learn from the school of hard knocks.
Well, yeah. There are suggestions and guidelines, but rules are for suckers. Even my rules.
GOD, I so HATE that now that I finally figured out why dripping is important and necessary, I only just now FOUND this, 4 months after the sale you're talking about ended, and at the moment they're out of stock!
SO SAD!
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