Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

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ShariR

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Me too, although now that I've mastered micro-coils on mini-RDAs converted to bottom-fed for use on my bottom-feeders (3 REOs, 2 Phids, 4 VMods, 2 Luicy Juicies, an Old Goat and a Wetbox), I'm not sure I'll be buying any more joyetech atties for quite awhile (I have about 70 of them anyway, so I'm good for a long time).

Nothing important to say here, but I just could not resist commenting that you have some very interesting named devices. I am sure there is a story there.
 

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Nothing important to say here, but I just could not resist commenting that you have some very interesting named devices. I am sure there is a story there.

Shari,

Just so you know, all my bottom feeders have the names by which they were marketed and came with when purchased. None of the names are my invention.

REO = the most well-known bottom feeder
Phid = Phidias, sometimes called Phidias Woodimus or Phidias Woodie, a 3.7-volt bottom feeder made from wood
Luicy Juicy = a plastic 3AA box 5-volt regulated bottom feeder from MaximumVapors (no longer available)
Old Goat = a plastic 2AA box 3.7 volt bottom feeder named for the man (Ron) who made and sold them (no longer available)
Wetbox = Missy Wetbox, a plastic 2AA box, named for the woman (Missy) who sold hem (no longer available)
 

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There are no branded Joyetech knock-offs. Now, what you may find is attys that a site sells that claim to be Joyetech and when you receive them, they aren't labeled. I have had that happen and the site "got" me, but as long as it is labeled Joyetech on the atty, you're all good. And yes, I only buy from Digital Ciggz now and have been for almost a year. I used to buy from "authorized resellers" that could only sell for a certain price or higher, but the fact remains that I have had the EXACT same experience, if not better due to price, with these as with the higher priced ones--occasional duds like from anywhere, and DC will replace them, but at such a low entry cost, I usually just chuck 'em.. They all read 2.2Ω (at least 9 out of 10 do) and are all labeled with the Joyetech gold band. I will never buy a Joyetech branded atty for more than what I pay at DC any more.

*Edit* Every vendor that I've ever talked to about this issue of supposed Joye knock-offs always begin with "does it have the gold Joyetech band?" There are a few sites, I think Vaporkingz is one that order theirs rebranded, but I have never bought from them as I would rather just have mine say Joye so there's no doubt. No dis on VK though, I just don't see the point to sell "authentic" Joyes without the branding. Plus, to rebrand a Joye product that, to begin with, is technically a Janty product is a bit weird.

Maybe one day we can talk about who Joyetech is and who Joyetech isn't. LOL. Calling RPad. Soon, I am going to buy a Janty gold band branded 510 sr atty to see the difference, if there is one.

I appreciate this information! I've never seen Joye 510 attys at this price. I thought I was getting a deal at 5 for $29.99 but DC's price is a blow out!!! I won't buy anything but genuine Joye 510s. I've tried knock offs and there IS a difference. Thank you soooo much!
 

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Thank you for that explanation. I knew of the Reo, heard of the Phidias, but incorrectly thought it was some type of RBA so thank you for that bit of education. The others I had not heard of but I know that vaping in the early days was kind of like Clint Eastwood and the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I have read a couple of threads and links therein trying to learn a bit. I do not think I would have survived the early days of vaping. Glad my entry point has already had you trailblazers before me.

Shari,

Just so you know, all my bottom feeders have the names by which they were marketed and came with when purchased. None of the names are my invention.

REO = the most well-known bottom feeder
Phid = Phidias, sometimes called Phidias Woodimus or Phidias Woodie, a 3.7-volt bottom feeder made from wood
Luicy Juicy = a plastic 3AA box 5-volt regulated bottom feeder from MaximumVapors (no longer available)
Old Goat = a plastic 2AA box 3.7 volt bottom feeder named for the man (Ron) who made and sold them (no longer available)
Wetbox = Missy Wetbox, a plastic 2AA box, named for the woman (Missy) who sold hem (no longer available)
 

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(A Dying Breed?)

I hope not :(,, I've been vaping for more then 3 years. and I've tried it all: catromizers, tanks, rebuildables you name it..

..& nothing come even close to direct dripping atomizers flavor-wise! & if you like to vape organics or use additives (like me) then atomizers are the only way to go!

..it ain't a faffless process vaping organics or using additives, atty's need to be cleaned daily: at least 12h in alcohol, then boil in demineralized or distilled water couple of times (or more if needed)! I use at least 7 at the time and boil once a week.

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I really doubt that we are a dying breed, Cisco (my favorite atomizer) seem to be more popular then ever, even Olimpian (a Cisco replica) seams to sell very well (I assume, since many retailers stock 'em). I'm also glad to see that IKV's are getting a foothold both in Europe and the USA (my second favorite, although a slightly better flavor then a Cisco's, they are very sensitive and CAN NOT BE USED for organics nor additives, but they are superior for additive free chemical liquids)

One thing that I have noticed is that peps who uses tanks, catromizers or rebuildables only use one type of liquid. I assume it's because it all tastes more or less the same. Although I walk around with a couple of tobacco liquids and a 510 atomizer on my proVari Mini, when I'm at home (or visiting someone) I change flavors non stop! A usual scenario would be: I screw my 306 (I use 306's for sweet and fruit) on & start with white chocolate then I add just a drop of caramel, then 2 drops of white chocolate and one drop of banana split, vape for a while. Then I overfill it with unflavored 100% PG and blow the atomizer & start with peach move on to dragon-fruit then a strawberry ending up with green apple. vaping for a while then screwing my 510 back on and continue with to loop different "tobaccos" (RY4's, tobaccos etc.)

I've always assumed that catromizers and tanks ware for noobs and that the real vet's vape on atty's :)
 

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I vape strictly 100% VG juices - Boba's, Wholecig WTA, Nightshift, etc. - can you pros recommend a dripping solution for me? - I am interested in taste mostly, thought about a long barrel HH357 but heard they don't last long for the money spent - but I have some real Kanthal wire coming from Sweden (rather than the probably toxic Chinese crap wire everyone sells and that comes in prebuilt coils) and I an gonna try coil winding using a 4/40 machine screw and cotton wick. My mod is a Sigelei V3 telescope and I need something that tastes better than a Kanger Protank (which tastes acceptable, not great)

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I'm not sure, but I guess that: Cisco's, IKV's and Olympian's are all made in China. Cisco's & IKV's are single retailer per continent only, such that you can only buy Coisco's at iVapour Elixir in Europe and at Avid Vaper in USA. IKV's are sold by Liberty Flights in Europe and by Vape King in USA & Australia. Olympians have no retailer policy & are available several places, I haven tried 'em yet (nor em I planing to) but I have read that they are great but still worse then Cisco's and since they almost cost the same, I'll stick with Cisco's..

@Angel Eyes

Mate, thrust me, rebuildables are nothing but a faff! I own a genesis-hybrid Orion V2 and I can tell you that flavor-wise rebuildables are the worst on the marked! We have a relatively large rebuildable-community in Copenhagen & I know their "leader" & Ive tasted his setups. If I was forced to vape on rebuildables I would go back to fags. Catromizers & tanks taste much better then rebuildables, thrust me!

I've never heard of 100% VG liquids, they would be as thick as sirup & there are no tanks in the existing world that would be able to process 'em, so I assume that you mean VG based liquids in which case I would recommend a regular Cisco 510 2ohm although the price is totally insane :confused: they are much cheaper in Europe,, Perhaps you should start with one of the cheaper replicas ("Cisco spec") just to see if direct dripping is for you. Or perhaps you could check out your local vapestores for some discontinued Janty or Joye 510 atomizers, they taste fine & are very cheap, I pay less then a buck a peace! Just ask 'em at the counter they are probably not listed on the homepage! If you find out that direct dripping is your thing than you might wonna try Cisco's and IKV's or perhaps find a permanent cheap solution at: http://www.dhgate.com or Made-in-China.com or Alibaba.com

Good luck :)
 
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@Mr.Mann

I'm not sure, but I guess that: Cisco's, IKV's and Olympian's are all made in China. Cisco's & IKV's are single retailer per continent only, such that you can only buy Coisco's at iVapour Elixir in Europe and at Avid Vaper in USA. IKV's are sold by Liberty Flights in Europe and by Vape King in USA & Australia. Olympians have no retailer policy & are available several places, I haven tried 'em yet (nor em I planing to) but I have read that they are great but still worse then Cisco's and since they almost cost the same, I'll stick with Cisco's..

@Angel Eyes

Mate, thrust me, rebuildables are nothing but a faff! I own a genesis-hybrid Orion V2 and I can tell you that flavor-wise rebuildables are the worst on the marked! We have a relatively large rebuildable-community in Copenhagen & I know their "leader" & Ive tasted his setups. If I was forced to vape on rebuildables I would go back to fags. Catromizers & tanks taste much better then rebuildables, thrust me!

I've never heard of 100% VG liquids, they would be as thick as sirup & there are no tanks in the existing world that would be able to process 'em, so I assume that you mean VG based liquids in which case I would recommend a regular Cisco 510 2ohm although the price is totally insane :confused: they are much cheaper in Europe,, Perhaps you should start with one of the cheaper replicas ("Cisco spec") just to see if direct dripping is for you. Or perhaps you could check out your local vapestores for some discontinued Janty or Joye 510 atomizers, they taste fine & are very cheap, I pay less then a buck a peace! Just ask 'em at the counter they are probably not listed on the homepage! If you find out that direct dripping is your thing than you might wonna try Cisco's and IKV's or perhaps find a permanent cheap solution at: http://www.dhgate.com or Made-in-China.com or Alibaba.com

Good luck :)

100% VG typically just means "no PG." Although, I do vape straight VG if I solely want the act.

Thanks for the tips, but I just really meant where do I get Oylimpians(?). If they cost the same as and aren't as good as "Cisco specs," then I can do without them as I have had my fill (money spent) at Avidvaper.
 

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I vape strictly 100% VG juices - Boba's, Wholecig WTA, Nightshift, etc. - can you pros recommend a dripping solution for me? - I am interested in taste mostly, thought about a long barrel HH357 but heard they don't last long for the money spent - but I have some real Kanthal wire coming from Sweden (rather than the probably toxic Chinese crap wire everyone sells and that comes in prebuilt coils) and I an gonna try coil winding using a 4/40 machine screw and cotton wick. My mod is a Sigelei V3 telescope and I need something that tastes better than a Kanger Protank (which tastes acceptable, not great)

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The nice thing about dripping is atomizers don't care what ratio your juice is, since they don't rely on wicking that needs to keep up. In fact, thicker juices can work even better in a disposable atty, if one tends to leak it will leak less with pg free juice.

Any disposable atty mentioned on this thread will work great; Joye, Cisco from AvidVaper, Ikenvape, EmpireMods.

If you want to make your own coils you'll want to check out the Rebuildable Atomizer section for advice on a rebuildable dripper.
 

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100% VG typically just means "no PG." Although, I do vape straight VG if I solely want the act.

Thanks for the tips, but I just really meant where do I get Oylimpians(?). If they cost the same as and aren't as good as "Cisco specs," then I can do without them as I have had my fill (money spent) at Avidvaper.

I think Olympians atties are only available in the UK. Maybe AV has a contract with the Chinese company that that makes the atties to their specs to not sell the same atties to other US vendors, so they sell them to Euro vendors instead under a different name lol.
 

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The nice thing about dripping is atomizers don't care what ratio your juice is, since they don't rely on wicking that needs to keep up. In fact, thicker juices can work even better in a disposable atty, if one tends to leak it will leak less with pg free juice.

Any disposable atty mentioned on this thread will work great; Joye, Cisco from AvidVaper, Ikenvape, EmpireMods.

If you want to make your own coils you'll want to check out the Rebuildable Atomizer section for advice on a rebuildable dripper.

Totally! I actually don't like to vape too-high PG with regular attys as they tend to just run straight through the cup. Now of course regular attys work fine no matter the ratio, and I vape all ratios, but a higher VG clings to the wick and coil in a way that PG never will. I also have to drip less with a higher VG as I feel more comfortable with not inadvertently getting dry hits. I get a dry hit about once every month and a half and that's far too many:facepalm:; but that is rarely with a high VG.
 
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I just started to drip so please excuse my ignorance. How does an atty differ from an RDA? I was fortunate enough to meet a fellow at a get together who showed me how to build coils and I fiddled with an IGO-L until I suddenly had just the right circumstances come together and I now have 9 different pyrex clearos that I have not touched for 4 days. I did pick one up and take a puff but they now seem flavorless to me and I really doubt I will get away from dripping in some form. Always looking for something new.
 

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The nice thing about dripping is atomizers don't care what ratio your juice is, since they don't rely on wicking that needs to keep up. In fact, thicker juices can work even better in a disposable atty, if one tends to leak it will leak less with pg free juice.

Any disposable atty mentioned on this thread will work great; Joye, Cisco from AvidVaper, Ikenvape, EmpireMods.

If you want to make your own coils you'll want to check out the Rebuildable Atomizer section for advice on a rebuildable dripper.

Jerms, thanks for that.
 
I use the 510 attys...so I am old school...lol..sometime I will use a 306...it's getting harder to find them also..Where do you all get yours from? I am aleays looking on the internet for new places that sells them...
I go with VG/PG mostly..recently bought PG and it doesn't leak like the VG does..seems like I get more vapor out of VG though..maybe it's me..lol
 
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