Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

[y cherry y]

Thanks, bill. I was at the site today trying my damnedest to figure out what the "low-profile" was all about. I am going to sell some stuff when I get back from Cali (leaving tomorrow) and then make my decision. If Vapage has a BOGO, or even a half-off sale, it'll be a no-brainer. But, seeing as how I am (likely) going to get rid of my main workhorse, I may need something indestructible -- like a Reo.

I love the indestructible build of the REO. I had one for a few months before I went all in on the VMods. Here's why: I take these things to work and keep them in my pocket all day. The VMod has a sealed chamber below the atty that holds excess juice safely. I can tip that thing upside down in my pocket and no juice ever drips out. The REO's 510 connector is right there on top; when you squonk it, some juice comes out the side of the connector and into the catch cup. Tip it and it spills. It'd be great if I was at a desk all day, but I'm not.

The other thing is that I like the draw of the VMod better. With the Vapage BF atties, you can't really overdrip it (juice drips back down through the slots on the edge), and the chimney that screws over the atty tightens the draw just enough to make it perfect for me (when I use them on something else, I use a drip shield, which does the same thing). The REO feels too open to me. Of course, none of this may apply to you.

Finally, while not at all indestructible (I've broken them several times just by dropping the plastic chassis on the floor while filling), Vapage had replaced every one I've broken -- no questions asked. Some were bought used. I filled out their RMA form, and in the notes told them I broke it and asked what it would cost to repair, and each time I got a nice new VMod chassis in the mail a week later. So, I'm a fan of Vapage.

Maybe sometime we can meet up and you can try a VMod out with different atties and see what you think. I even have a couple unused ones I got on the last BOGO as part of my Vape Apocalypse collection, if you want one at cost ($50, I think). Let me know when you get back, if you haven't already gotten something in California.

 

[Mr.Mann]

You are one of the most knowledgeable vapers I know, so you don't need any advice from me. That won't stop me from offering some, of course... LOL.

If you're giving up your ProVari (or even if you're not), then by all means get a REO when finances allow or you happen on a good deal used. The regular catch-cup versions will accommodate a REOmizer 2 (which is great---I have one) or other small-diameter bottom-fed rebuildable atties (I'd be happy to send you one of my spare YK1 Cyclone clones modded for bottom-feeders). Yes, the LP version allows the use of any atomizer you like, but I prefer the aesthetic balance of a small-diameter RBA on the REO. As I wrote, the Mini 2.1 is perfect for my hand---the Mini 2.1 is 3 1/8" tall, while the Grand is 3 3/4", which is meaningful to me---but you might prefer the Grand (6ml vs. 3ml bottle, longer battery life with the 18650 over the 18500). . Unless Rob has changed the milling specs since 2012, the regular catch-cup's inner diameter space on the Mini 2.1 is actually a tad larger---15.24mm versus 13.89mm on the Grand. If you have large hands, though, the Grand is a no-brainer. On the other hand, I find the VV REO just too tall for comfort (4 1/2").

There is something about the quality of a REO. They are superb vaping instruments. All those REOnauts aren't crazy (well, some can be a bit over-the-top in their single-minded enthusiasm, but even those aren't crazy about their choice of hardware to be fanatical about).

It's not an easy decision, but I may get both. I've come to realize that I would rather just vape LR when using attys. Now, to be honest, I don't even need a REO or a VMod -- I could get away with a clone mech, my sealed 510-510 adapter, a cheap anodized drip shield and call it a night (a cheap night too). But, I love the idea of a bottle of liquid encapsulated in mod while feeding it from the bottom. And who (with any vaping history) doesn't love the idea of well-built piece of equipment, like a Reo, that is one of the original must-haves? And the prices of VMods when they go on sale is just incredible!

Oh, and I've also found out that while it is fun to "blow clouds" with RDAs, I really prefer not to have lingering-vapor meandering throughout my entire freakin' house! With regular attys, not only is the vape -- TH, flavor and vapor -- satisfying, but the exhaled vapor is plenty enough and it can dissipate quickly. I like that when company comes over they don't have to wonder what that haze is, not to mention it's just not a good look (for me) to have a lingering cloud going on with my baby running around the house. Oh, and I don't know how NOT to take huge hits! haha

I love the indestructible build of the REO. I had one for a few months before I went all in on the VMods. Here's why: I take these things to work and keep them in my pocket all day. The VMod has a sealed chamber below the atty that holds excess juice safely. I can tip that thing upside down in my pocket and no juice ever drips out. The REO's 510 connector is right there on top; when you squonk it, some juice comes out the side of the connector and into the catch cup. Tip it and it spills. It'd be great if I was at a desk all day, but I'm not.

The other thing is that I like the draw of the VMod better. With the Vapage BF atties, you can't really overdrip it (juice drips back down through the slots on the edge), and the chimney that screws over the atty tightens the draw just enough to make it perfect for me (when I use them on something else, I use a drip shield, which does the same thing). The REO feels too open to me. Of course, none of this may apply to you.

Finally, while not at all indestructible (I've broken them several times just by dropping the plastic chassis on the floor while filling), Vapage had replaced every one I've broken -- no questions asked. Some were bought used. I filled out their RMA form, and in the notes told them I broke it and asked what it would cost to repair, and each time I got a nice new VMod chassis in the mail a week later. So, I'm a fan of Vapage.

Maybe sometime we can meet up and you can try a VMod out with different atties and see what you think. I even have a couple unused ones I got on the last BOGO as part of my Vape Apocalypse collection, if you want one at cost ($50, I think). Let me know when you get back, if you haven't already gotten something in California.

Thanks. Actually, I have used yours (with Smooth Criminal loaded up)! LOL. I used Tezcatlipoca's too early last year (loaded with NLV's Gold). In both cases, all I could remember thinking was that was a helluva vape! I've had the LR slant-coil attys (don't know whether it was Hybrid or Universal) but they sucked on my Provari. Actually, all LRs suck on my Provari -- that's part of the reason I must part with it. Whether EmpireMods', CiscoSpec's (and Aeros), Stingrays, Kidney Puncher's, Vapage Slant-Coils, Roar's, etc., all die too quickly on my Provari when using LR. But, once I put most of those same attys on a 3.7v device, all the sudden they seem to work as intended. Great vape! I don't know why that is either. Even when I put the Provari at 3.6v they suck. 3.7v and they suck. And the kicker is anything higher than 3.7v on a 1.5Ω atty and it starts to burn it up. Sure they work initially, but dry hits abound and the attys goes kaput within days (at least in the sense that I give up on it).

I am veering into another topic right now that has been irking me, but does anyone have any theory about why the Provari seems to not do good on those attys, but on a SR where the resistance has a lot more wiggle room I can get a really quality vape. Maybe it's because of the unwavering output of the Provari -- is it just too much on that low res of a regular atty? Who knows, but I have come to the end of the road with the Provari. It almost seems silly know that I used it for doing something that can be so easily accomplished on a $20 China tube mod -- different res and voltage, but equal results. Granted, I am using a $200 mod (LOL), but it works the EXACT same on a $20 clone mod (got one of those too).

 

[chanelvaps]

Now this really interests me. The cost and the looks and the usability. Went to the Vapage site and looked them up. Do you use the batteries it comes with or another kind?

I love the indestructible build of the REO. I had one for a few months before I went all in on the VMods. Here's why: I take these things to work and keep them in my pocket all day. The VMod has a sealed chamber below the atty that holds excess juice safely. I can tip that thing upside down in my pocket and no juice ever drips out. The REO's 510 connector is right there on top; when you squonk it, some juice comes out the side of the connector and into the catch cup. Tip it and it spills. It'd be great if I was at a desk all day, but I'm not.

The other thing is that I like the draw of the VMod better. With the Vapage BF atties, you can't really overdrip it (juice drips back down through the slots on the edge), and the chimney that screws over the atty tightens the draw just enough to make it perfect for me (when I use them on something else, I use a drip shield, which does the same thing). The REO feels too open to me. Of course, none of this may apply to you.

Finally, while not at all indestructible (I've broken them several times just by dropping the plastic chassis on the floor while filling), Vapage had replaced every one I've broken -- no questions asked. Some were bought used. I filled out their RMA form, and in the notes told them I broke it and asked what it would cost to repair, and each time I got a nice new VMod chassis in the mail a week later. So, I'm a fan of Vapage.

Maybe sometime we can meet up and you can try a VMod out with different atties and see what you think. I even have a couple unused ones I got on the last BOGO as part of my Vape Apocalypse collection, if you want one at cost ($50, I think). Let me know when you get back, if you haven't already gotten something in California.

 

[y cherry y]

Now this really interests me. The cost and the looks and the usability. Went to the Vapage site and looked them up. Do you use the batteries it comes with or another kind?

I've never bought their batteries. Just use any safe-chemistry 18650 for the XL; I use AW's or the Panasonic CGR18650CH. The flat-top Panasonics fit a tad better than the button-top AW's. And any of the newer high-amp batteries like the Sony VTC's or EFests would be equally good. BUT. . .it's mechanical, so it's generally too hot at first, then almost perfect for some time, then gets weak as the battery voltage declines more. So I go to work usually with two VMods confident that I'll be okay for 8-10 hours. If I just took one, I'd have an extra battery. Actually, if I took just one with an extra battery, that'd be the day the atty quits!

 

[y cherry y]

It's not an easy decision, but I may get both. I've come to realize that I would rather just vape LR when using attys. Now, to be honest, I don't even need a REO or a VMod -- I could get away with a clone mech, my sealed 510-510 adapter, a cheap anodized drip shield and call it a night (a cheap night too). But, I love the idea of a bottle of liquid encapsulated in mod while feeding it from the bottom. And who (with any vaping history) doesn't love the idea of well-built piece of equipment, like a Reo, that is one of the original must-haves? And the prices of VMods when they go on sale is just incredible!

Oh, and I've also found out that while it is fun to "blow clouds" with RDAs, I really prefer not to have lingering-vapor meandering throughout my entire freakin' house! With regular attys, not only is the vape -- TH, flavor and vapor -- satisfying, but the exhaled vapor is plenty enough and it can dissipate quickly. I like that when company comes over they don't have to wonder what that haze is, not to mention it's just not a good look (for me) to have a lingering cloud going on with my baby running around the house. Oh, and I don't know how NOT to take huge hits! haha



Thanks. Actually, I have used yours (with Smooth Criminal loaded up)! LOL. I used Tezcatlipoca's too early last year (loaded with NLV's Gold). In both cases, all I could remember thinking was that was a helluva vape! I've had the LR slant-coil attys (don't know whether it was Hybrid or Universal) but they sucked on my Provari. Actually, all LRs suck on my Provari -- that's part of the reason I must part with it. Whether EmpireMods', CiscoSpec's (and Aeros), Stingrays, Kidney Puncher's, Vapage Slant-Coils, Roar's, etc., all die too quickly on my Provari when using LR. But, once I put most of those same attys on a 3.7v device, all the sudden they seem to work as intended. Great vape! I don't know why that is either. Even when I put the Provari at 3.6v they suck. 3.7v and they suck. And the kicker is anything higher than 3.7v on a 1.5Ω atty and it starts to burn it up. Sure they work initially, but dry hits abound and the attys goes kaput within days (at least in the sense that I give up on it).

I am veering into another topic right now that has been irking me, but does anyone have any theory about why the Provari seems to not do good on those attys, but on a SR where the resistance has a lot more wiggle room I can get a really quality vape. Maybe it's because of the unwavering output of the Provari -- is it just too much on that low res of a regular atty? Who knows, but I have come to the end of the road with the Provari. It almost seems silly know that I used it for doing something that can be so easily accomplished on a $20 China tube mod -- different res and voltage, but equal results. Granted, I am using a $200 mod (LOL), but it works the EXACT same on a $20 clone mod (got one of those too).

I don't know. I prefer a regulated vape. I wish Vapage would make a VV or VW aluminum BF WITH that awesome sealed chamber. I take VMods with me to work and out and about, but at home I don't use them much.

Are you going to check in with Tez and RPad in SoCal? If so, tell Ray that taste is subjective and say hi to Tapioca.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I don't know. I prefer a regulated vape. I wish Vapage would make a VV or VW aluminum BF WITH that awesome sealed chamber. I take VMods with me to work and out and about, but at home I don't use them much.

Are you going to check in with Tez and RPad in SoCal? If so, tell Ray that taste is subjective and say hi to Tapioca.

Hmmm...I wonder if it's particular to the Provari? Dunno. Or maybe it's me and how I vape? Maybe it's me and my Provari? That relationship is ending anyway, so who cares!?! I thought it would last forever. LOL

Anyway, yeah, I am going to see Ray, but I think Tez is buried under a book somewhere. I miss that guy!

 

[chanelvaps]

going to sound like a dumb question but how long do these atomizers last? can you use other toppers on this?

 

[y cherry y]

going to sound like a dumb question but how long do these atomizers last? can you use other toppers on this?

Regular atties last somewhere between two days and a year. Sounds stupid, but it's true. The Vapage atties usually lose flavor and vapor before they burn up, though. I typically use them every day for 2-3 months.

As for the toppers, I haven't tried that, although apparently it's possible. The REO would be much simpler to use rebuildables on. See Bill's post somewhere north of here.

 

[chanelvaps]

Not interested in an Reo. I like the idea of atties. I have heard nothing but good and am already very tired of relying on the whole coil building mess everyday all day. Just did not want to invest in something that I had to pour more money into to keep going.

Regular atties last somewhere between two days and a year. Sounds stupid, but it's true. The Vapage atties usually lose flavor and vapor before they burn up, though. I typically use them every day for 2-3 months.

As for the toppers, I haven't tried that, although apparently it's possible. The REO would be much simpler to use rebuildables on. See Bill's post somewhere north of here.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Not interested in an Reo. I like the idea of atties. I have heard nothing but good and am already very tired of relying on the whole coil building mess everyday all day. Just did not want to invest in something that I had to pour more money into to keep going.

A Reo is just a mod. Same function as the VMod. That's not to say that you'd be interested in it, but I *think* you were referring to it as if it was a rebuildable.

 

[chanelvaps]

Hi Mr Mann
I know what an REO is. I was responding to this:
The REO would be much simpler to use rebuildables on. See Bill's post somewhere north of here.

A Reo is just a mod. Same function as the VMod. That's not to say that you'd be interested in it, but I *think* you were referring to it as if it was a rebuildable.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Hi Mr Mann
I know what an REO is. I was responding to this:
The REO would be much simpler to use rebuildables on. See Bill's post somewhere north of here.

Oh, okay. . .

 

[chanelvaps]

Thinking I am going to start with these dripping atty's from Empire. Will wait until they are back in stock.
So much new stuff to try and I know I need to branch out some but unsure of which way to go.
I long for the days I was happy with T2's and an EGO Twist.

Oh, okay. . .

 

[Uncle]

Just An FYI:

Now I don't know if this will be helpful or not to anyone and I searched the thread again to see if anyone mentioned it before, but couldn't find anything . . . So - Here goes, I just saw that "Desert Vapes" is selling Joye 510 Atties from $3.45 - $5.95 (eGo-T and "Bridgeless" - $4.95) per piece and there is supposedly a 10% off discount using "ecf10" (which might or might not work): 510 Atomizers

Hope the information is helpful to those who are looking to get them, since "digcig" doesn't have them in stock . . .

BTW: I have also asked another Vendor I know to see if they could get them and offer the same price for the pack as "DigCig" did - They are checking on it and will get back to "Me", so once I know I'll post it here . . . Just Sayin' . . .

 

[Johnnie Price]

Wow. I disappear for a couple of months and this thread is all bottom feeders and RDAs.

Nothing new in my world. Still using the VMod I grabbed in March with the Stingrys I got at the same time. I just made my first vape purchase in 4 months for some unflavored WTA from Aroma to mix with my menthol.

Life is good.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

I recently bought 4 boxes (5 each box) of Joyetech atomizers from Vapor King. The failure rate is astounding. Some last less than a day. I've lost my patience for my RDA's and really just want to use regular drip atomizers. This would be a good thread to post deals on dependable old school LR drip atty's? Who likes what, and where do you get them?

 

[DC2]

Well, unfortunately I was going to recommend Vapor King, since that's where I bought all of mine.
But I buy the standard 510s not the LRs, so I don't know if that makes a difference.

 

[EbenezerScrews]

I recently bought 4 boxes (5 each box) of Joyetech atomizers from Vapor King. The failure rate is astounding. Some last less than a day. I've lost my patience for my RDA's and really just want to use regular drip atomizers. This would be a good thread to post deals on dependable old school LR drip atty's? Who likes what, and where do you get them?

Well, unfortunately I was going to recommend Vapor King, since that's where I bought all of mine.
But I buy the standard 510s not the LRs, so I don't know if that makes a difference.

Sorry you are having trouble Louis

Did you try contacting Vapor Kings? These bulk atties only have a 48-hour DOA policy...

I have also not had any problems with the 5-510's used in the past couple months, but like DC2 mine are also SR. Have also had success with the ~10 or so 910's, but again all SR.

Side note, but with the 910's I have had to resort to soaking them in alky overnight, ugh. Then I break out my Fiddle and play a lil ditty.

Maybe I am just spoilt by 910's of old, but these guys have a lingering stale liquid "primer" taste. 901's have always started off with that taste initially but nothing an hour of vaping & fresh liquid wouldn't kill, haha. If i don't soak these that flavor lingers for a day or two which becomes intolerable. 99% of all eliquid I have tried over the years makes me nauseous though, haha, so maybe I'm just a overly sensitive. Still recommended for that price

 

[cags]

I recently bought 4 boxes (5 each box) of Joyetech atomizers from Vapor King. The failure rate is astounding. Some last less than a day. I've lost my patience for my RDA's and really just want to use regular drip atomizers. This would be a good thread to post deals on dependable old school LR drip atty's? Who likes what, and where do you get them?

that is weird to me. I use joye 510s and some are from VK. but I also use SR attys. and they last me months. right now I am using 2 that I started using in Dec and 2 that I started using in Jan. I do rotate between 4 PVs during the day. I am a big chain vapor too.........
I use joye 510 batteries and 650 egos....... (hey they work for me )

 

[y cherry y]

I recently bought 4 boxes (5 each box) of Joyetech atomizers from Vapor King. The failure rate is astounding. Some last less than a day. I've lost my patience for my RDA's and really just want to use regular drip atomizers. This would be a good thread to post deals on dependable old school LR drip atty's? Who likes what, and where do you get them?

Hey, neighbor. Well, you know the HH.357 well, so I won't mention those. Aside from that one, I favor the Vapage Hybrid BF atties:

AMG Hybrid Atomizer Bottom Feeder (2-pack) - VMOD / XL - VAPORIZERS

Although they're especially good on VMods, I also use them for regular dripping, usually with a drip shield to tighten the draw slightly. They are beautifully built, have terrific flavor, and last a long time. Vapage has BOGO deals a few times a year. At half-price, they're just $4.50 each -- which is an unbeatable atomizer deal.

Avidvaper's Cisco Spec 510's are equally well-built and tasty. I don't usually get them, because they're not as bottom feeder-friendly, and because they never get under $8 each.

Empire Mods' 510's are also good, and I very much like their new long barrel atties, which at $5.99 are a good deal.

Among the 901's, Empire's Premium 901's are the only ones I use. They require zero break-in, and are flavor monsters. I use 901's less often than 510's, but almost always with fruit, chocolate and coffee flavors. I'm vaping Cherry Midnight right now on an Empire Mod with Kick and 901p atty, and it's perfect.

I occasionally use Avid CS 306's, which are a completely different experience than my usual 510 and 901 atties -- very warm and occasionally even harsh.

That's about the extent of my regular atty preferences. I have, from time to time, tried other brands and styles. But these are the ones I come back to.