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zakk21

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Okay so I am looking to upgrade and I don't know exactly what to. Also sorry if this is in the wrong section. But I see a lot of people using the unregulated mech mods hating on the regulated devices. I understand you need those fore sub ohm vaping. Which is optimal for dripping. But I seen some 100watt box mods that can handle 0.2 ohm coils. In this case wouldn't that make a box mod more effective. I mean they are generally safer. If they can vape at those low ohms what is the point for a mech mod. Kinda new so I don't know to much.Thanks for the replies.
 

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There are threads on this subject every week. Here's one going on right now: Why are mechanical mods even a viable choice?

I have a couple of mech mods (in addition to my Reo's) but I would like a high wattage regulated mod so I am waiting to find just the "right one" for me:) Have not quite found it yet. Would love to find it in a Reo Woodvil!
 

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This issue seems to get kicked (no pun intended - well, maybe a little intended) around a lot here. Just look through the threads. Any of them with 50+ pages is usually about this - or clones. So pick one - cozy up with a nice cup of joe and a large tank, and happy reading. :laugh:

Loved your last post in the above mentioned thead. It really says it all! There is no "right" or "wrong" just different.:)

Ford or Chevy? White or wheat? Mac or PC? Fender or Gibson? Mayo or Miracle Whip? Android or iPhone? On and on. Endless examples of how this is a very human trait, and probably goes back to the days of tribal cavemen. It takes a deliberate attempt not to do it.

I'm talking about the tendency to think our choices are the best, and somehow anyone who chooses different is a dumb poophead. To think we are somehow immune or it shouldn't happen here is, in my opinion, kind of naive.

From what I've seen - the discourse on this forum could be nastier by leaps and bounds. Guess we all gotta grin and bear it. Nothing is perfect, and anyone pointing out shortcomings to us (even about our choice in gear) is never pleasant - because one person's shortcoming is another person's reason for buying.

My $.02 - and not a penny more.
 
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Yeah some of the new regulated mods work just fine for that sort of thing.

Of course my mech clones do what I want for $10-$30 instead of, say, $100+. Also there's not much to go wrong with a mech.

I'm not convinced the tech on the new vv devices is completely reliable yet. I'm going to wait a few more months until 1) the prices drop and 2) some of the issues in the tech are resolved.
 

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Okay so I am looking to upgrade and I don't know exactly what to. Also sorry if this is in the wrong section. But I see a lot of people using the unregulated mech mods hating on the regulated devices. I understand you need those fore sub ohm vaping. Which is optimal for dripping. But I seen some 100watt box mods that can handle 0.2 ohm coils. In this case wouldn't that make a box mod more effective. I mean they are generally safer. If they can vape at those low ohms what is the point for a mech mod. Kinda new so I don't know to much.Thanks for the replies.

These days I vape almost all the time on mechanical mods with sub-ohm setups. I started with mech mods in early 2013 and I'm now very comfortable with them. My most used mod is a Reo Grand which is a mechanical bottom feeder and there are no good regulated BF'ers around that I know of (that may be changing soon) so that is another factor for me.

If I were getting into it now I'm pretty sure I would go with high powered regulated mods. The advantages are improved safety, the power level stays the same throughout your vape as the battery discharges and the ability to dial in your vape for different build resistance and for different times of the day seems like a great feature to me. You don't need to use sub-ohm builds with the regulated mods because you can turn up the voltage with higher resistance setups and get a superb high power vape.

Vape on zakk21 :thumb:
 

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I use non regulated ProVape-1s alongside ProVari. Same tanks on both. I don't understand why one would 'hate' either types of device...

It's when the wiring in someone's brain goes all loopy. Commonly referred to as being a "fanboy (or girl)". It's just when someone likes something so much, they think everyone else in the world should, too. They then get irked when they don't. They get really miffed when other people like their stuff just as much. Then, finally, they get downright mad when someone else actually doesn't like their choice (which is, of course, the bestest) at all. Then the flaming starts, it degrades, and the cops, errr....mods get called in, and someone gets banned.

All because someone really enjoys what they have. Silly, isn't it?
 

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It's when the wiring in someone's brain goes all loopy. Commonly referred to as being a "fanboy (or girl)". It's just when someone likes something so much, they think everyone else in the world should, too. They then get irked when they don't. They get really miffed when other people like their stuff just as much. Then, finally, they get downright mad when someone else actually doesn't like their choice (which is, of course, the bestest) at all. Then the flaming starts, it degrades, and the cops, errr....mods get called in, and someone gets banned.

All because someone really enjoys what they have. Silly, isn't it?

Very well said twall! Specially like the 'all loopy' part ;)
 

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These days I vape almost all the time on mechanical mods with sub-ohm setups. I started with mech mods in early 2013 and I'm now very comfortable with them. My most used mod is a Reo Grand which is a mechanical bottom feeder and there are no good regulated BF'ers around that I know of (that may be changing soon) so that is another factor for me.

Redskymods produces beautiful wood DNA30 devices, and Mod organizers. However, they still have a catchcup:( and are limited releases that can far exceed the REO standard prices. The organizers are usually available and I plan on picking one up in the future.
 

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You don't need to use sub-ohm builds with the regulated mods because you can turn up the voltage with higher resistance setups and get a superb high power vape.

Yeah, this is exactly why I'll probably pick up one of these newer regulated mods eventually.

I just saw a thread on the MVP 3 which will come in a high wattage version.
 

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Until about two months ago I had been 100% mech, and loved it. But my feelings about mechs were also relative to my prior experience with regulated devices, which I liked, but I enjoyed mechs more .. at least for almost a year or so.

Right now, I have zero interest in using a mech .. a regulated device with a flat DC signal vs one with pulse width modulation makes all the difference in the world. With PWM devices I never vaped over 4 volts, always found it harsh, so 3.5-4.0v is where I stayed. But with the three 30W DNA styles that I have, the experience is quite different, I almost always am vaping comfortably over 4.2v ... so with the change in my experience came a yet another change in my opinions regarding regulated devices.

Mechs are always good to have because there is no concern about boards eventually failing, so I am happy to have them .. although I have way too many especially since I am not using them at the moment. :p
 

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Until about two months ago I had been 100% mech, and loved it. But my feelings about mechs were also relative to my prior experience with regulated devices, which I liked, but I enjoyed mechs more .. at least for almost a year or so.

Right now, I have zero interest in using a mech .. a regulated device with a flat DC signal vs one with pulse width modulation makes all the difference in the world. With PWM devices I never vaped over 4 volts, always found it harsh, so 3.5-4.0v is where I stayed. But with the three 30W DNA styles that I have, the experience is quite different, I almost always am vaping comfortably over 4.2v ... so with the change in my experience came a yet another change in my opinions regarding regulated devices.

Mechs are always good to have because there is no concern about boards eventually failing, so I am happy to have them .. although I have way too many especially since I am not using them at the moment. :p

This is also why I try not to pick a side in these vaping wars. What I don't like today, may become my favorite tomorrow. So I try hard to reserve absolute judgment. I prefer the safety of a regulated, but that doesn't mean I won't be attracted to the mech kind of performance someday. You never know, but if I solidly pick a side for sure, I kinda have to stick with it, the die is cast, no more choice.

Because look really dumb eating crow.....
 
You can sub ohm on a vw device but because of the option to change your wattage u dont need to sub ohm to get clouds and flavor.... i usually throw a 1 ohm setup on my drippers for my dna 30. You will get the same vape every pull until the battery dies and you dont have to stress out your batteries. If you buy a 10-30 dollar mech you still have to buy two batteries and a charger. They come out to about the same price range as a dna30 clone that has a built in charger and sony vtc4 included. I love mechs and the manhattan hits like a beast but for an everyday vape i stick with the dna30.
 

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There are threads on this subject every week. Here's one going on right now: Why are mechanical mods even a viable choice?

I have a couple of mech mods (in addition to my Reo's) but I would like a high wattage regulated mod so I am waiting to find just the "right one" for me:) Have not quite found it yet. Would love to find it in a Reo Woodvil!
In my opinion you should look at the T8. I know most would look at it and think it's extreme overkill, but honestly it's one of the best devices I've seen coming out as far as supporting high voltage. It steps up to 15v and can handle up to 4 ohm loads. With your mechs you already cover the sub-ohm range. So this would allow you to cover the high resistance high surface area builds as well. A lot of the regulated mods that have been coming out have been focusing on low voltage sub ohm builds as high power, which is great if you just want to add consistency to your setups, but ignore the other end of the spectrum.
 

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I'll be honest - I have a bunch of mech mods, but it's mostly about my compulsive need for new, cool-looking setups.:oops: I do use them on occasion, mostly with RDAs, and I like them, but I typically use regulated mods for my normal day-to-day vaping. I like being able to switch between RBAs, RDAs and clearos with different coil ohms, and regulated mods are great for that.

Anyway, I'm trying to cut back on my collecting now, at least when it comes to mods - I have a few of 20 to 30 watt mods, and just got a Sigelei 100 watt, so figure I'm pretty much covered in the mod department.

Also, read in a thread somewhere (if I find it I'll update my post) a really good post explaining why, with all the high wattage regulated mods coming out, sub-ohming is really unnecessary to get good flavor and blow clouds. According to the post, sub-ohming was necessary when mech mods and low resistance coils were the main way to get higher wattages out of batteries. But with high wattage regulated mods you can adjust up the wattage output without having to adjust the coil resistance.

Before everyone jumps all over me, I really don't have a dog in that fight. Some swear by mech mods, some by regulated - frankly that whole discussion bores me. Reminds me of the Sony vs Microsoft video game fanboy crap. Personally, if I was just starting out today, I figure I'd still end up where I am now, with some of both - it's just in my nature to want cool new toys.:toast:

Edit: oh, for the OP - if you're looking for a single device and don't plan on collecting others, I'd recommend a high wattage regulated mod. It's just more versatile. Or buy a mech mod, they're fairly cheap if you go the clone route, and see if that's for you.
 
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