Regulateds are better than mechs

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

These are your opinions stated in support of your own personal preference and not the reality of it.

Pardon me, but...


#1

new 100w and 150w dual battery regs

#2

Regs are computer controlled, have temp/wattage control and give a consistent vape without sacrificing battery life.

Those are facts. Entirely objective.

Besides, I withdrew from bias when I stated the following:

From a hobbyist/enthusiast pov I understand that mechs are aesthetically pleasing and fun to build/modify.

 

[Vaslovik]

Pardon me, but...

Pardon me, but your post is about bashing mechs in favor of your preference, going on about mechs blown out of the water and left in the dust. I'm sure if we pursue this your dad can beat up my dad and your dog can beat up my dog, and everything you have is better. Why can't you just be happy with what you have and let others be happy with their choice?

Most of the vapers I see are using ego batteries and clearos but I don't have to put down their choice in favor of mine or tell them how mine blows theirs out of the water or leaves them in the dust, because to do so is rude, adolescent, and immature.

 

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

These are your opinions stated in support of your own personal preference and not the reality of it. I use nothing but mechs, they are all I've used for all of my vaping journey, and they are all I'm ever going to use in the way of mods. I am hardly alone in this. Others can have their electronic gizmo boxes I'll just stick with what has served me so very well.

I see no point at all in 100+ watts when I get all the vapor and flavor I want from my mechs and gennies. Nor do I see any point in pursuing the biggest cloud on the block. You don't like mechs, we get that, but it's just your own opinion, and if you don't like them don't have one. Plenty of other vapers love their mechs, and will continue to buy and use them. They will always have their place.

I guess it's not enough for you to be happy with your regulated mod, you have to bash mechs too. Why is that? I'm happy with my mechs, but I don't feel I have to put down other mods.

Pardon me, but your post is about bashing mechs in favor of your preference, going on about mechs blown out of the water and left in the dust. I'm sure if we pursue this your dad can beat up my dad and your dog can beat up my dog, and everything you have is better. Why can't you just be happy with what you have and let others be happy with their choice?

Most of the vapers I see are using ego batteries and clearos but I don't have to put down their choice in favor of mine or tell them how mine blows theirs out of the water or leaves them in the dust, because to do so is rude, adolescent, and immature.

Live and let live is my motto.

I'm simply looking to expand my perspective of the vape culture as a whole, specifically the advantages to a mechanical vape.

 

[Caterpiller]

I don't see why anyone would use anything but Charmin toilet paper. It's strong and soft and does the job better than anything else. Apparently, some people like getting the dingleberries. I can't explain it. Vape and wipe happy people!

Baby wipes.
Screw the dry stuff.
I want to smell like flowers when I'm done.
(We shall have to see how they handle beets)
(Cough, cough. ... eh? Susan? )
Sadly, I am no longer able to use public restrooms as my spoiled tushy won't go for dry 1 ply.

Analogs and TP are so last century. Been using this for the last 3 years.

My posterior would now welcome TP as much as sand paper.

 

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

I prefer this myself

 

[puffon]

I see this thread has now gone down the toilet.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I see this thread has now gone down the toilet.

It's the circle of life this thread started there, only fitting it should end there.

 

[SUPER K]

My first mod, ripped off by the vape shop, Ragnarok clone.

Daily beater, works well.

My Cadillac for at home and formal occasions like going to Denny's.

 

[tj99959]

If you used RBAs, you would understand. I'll break it down:

1. drippers perform much better , and most of them are specifically designed to run at 1ohm or under.

2. many of us use 2, 3, 4, or more coils per build. Say you build both coils at 1ohm. That means the build will be running at 0.5ohms. As you can see, there just isn't enough room in most RBAs to go above 1ohm once you start building multiple coils.

3. On a non-regulated device, the ONLY way to get more power, more vaper, and ultimately more flavor out of a coil is to lower the ohms, since there is no other way to adjust the wattage/voltage.

But I do use RBAs ................. with 2 ohm coils in them.
Believe it or not, you really do get to choose which RBA you wish to use.
If you don't want to use a sub ohm RBA, there are other choices.
Those little 11mm chambers produce about the most intense flavor you will ever encounter.

 

[Stinkytofus]

I do not see the point to mechanical mods from a practical point of view. From a hobbyist/enthusiast pov I understand that mechs are aesthetically pleasing and fun to build/modify.

But overall, regulateds in the last couple years have really stepped there game up and some of the new 100w and 150w dual battery regs can blow a mech out of the water.

Regs are computer controlled, have temp/wattage control and give a consistent vape without sacrificing battery life. They are also exponentially more safe.

I love vaping and the culture, but practically I don't ever see myself getting a mech and I think that in the future mechs will be left in the dust.

mechs look better and potentially last forever u til u drop it many times making it malfunction

Regulated is the way to go... Imo

 

[tj99959]

mechs look better and potentially last forever u til u drop it many times making it malfunction

Regulated is the way to go... Imo

See that little silver mechanical in the middle of the pic above?
It fell out of my duck blind several years ago, and spent a week in the mud at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog retrieved it for me). I put a new battery in it and a new 510 atomizer on it & vaped it on my way home.
Try doing that with your regulated PV.

 

[Bad Ninja]

mechs look better and potentially last forever u til u drop it many times making it malfunction

Regulated is the way to go... Imo

With regulated you only get to drop it once

 

[Stinkytofus]

See that little silver mechanical in the middle of the pic above?
It fell out of my duck blind several years ago, and spent a week in the mud at the bottom of Ogden Bay. (my dog retrieved it for me). I put a new battery in it and a new 510 atomizer on it & vaped it on my way home.
Try doing that with your regulated PV.

I like mechs but they can break as well, dropped my last mech 3-4 times, accidentally slipped, fell down the table, it happens, and the bottom firing pin threads got all messed, on the contrary, i havent had a regulated mod crap out on me

Plus, i had 2 shorts, 1 continous firing accident that got me burned, i rather let the regulated mod babysit me and provide a layer of safety than me babysitting the mech and have a small chance of accident

 

[Bad Ninja]

I like mechs but they can break as well, dropped my last mech 3-4 times, accidentally slipped, fell down the table, it happens, and the bottom firing pin threads got all messed, on the contrary, i havent had a regulated mod crap out on me

Plus, i had 2 shorts, 1 continous firing accident that got me burned, i rather let the regulated mod babysit me and provide a layer of safety than me babysitting the mech and have a small chance of accident

User error can destroy anything...even a hammer.

Not everyone wants or needs a safety net at the sacrifice of durability.

To each their own, but no, Mechs aren't going away.

 

[NeXtDimensionVaping]

I'm sure they will come out with more rugged regulates.

Maybe even ones where the chip can be replaced, or could last virtually a lifetime.

Think about it in terms of cell phones...

It used to be that you could have a fragile smartphone (reg) or rugged regular phone (mech) , but nowadays they are making waterproof, shock resistant, etc.. smartphones, so there's really no reason to have a regular phone over a smartphone.

And I've had some smart phones for 3,4, or 5 years and they still function just fine. So I don't really see the argument against comp chips burning out.

 

[VNeil]

Mech mods are 100% safe if you know ohms law and battery safety....

I'm sorry but that statement is simply not true. Knowing ohm's law will only prevent you from making a build that is fundamentally unsafe. Knowing battery safety will help you to not do stupid things, but it cannot prevent that. Nor can it prevent simple mechanical failure.

There is only one way to to make a mech 100% safe:

1. Know everything there is to know about all the possible failure modes for your mech. All of them. Even the ones you never heard of. (yes, you have to prove a negative here to get to 100%)

2. Have a plan of action for every possible failure mode identified in #1

I have some fair experience in a certain very life threatening high risk sport. I learned two things from that, as I watched my friends die, one by one:

1. Sh*t happens. I don't care how much you know about that risky subject at hand, you can always be thrown a curve. Accept that you cannot prevent sh*t from happening. And any man made system can, and will, fail. That fundamental failure rate is a game of statistics you cannot beat.

2. On any given day, any given person can, and eventually will, do something very stupid.

When #1 and #2 coincide, in a high risk situation, people die. Fortunately mechs aren't usually *that* dangerous. But the principle is the same, regardless of the absolute levels of risk.

You can make all the same arguments for regulated mods. However, if you developed risk profiles for mechs vs regs, it would be clear that statistics are on the side of regs. And this is purely a game of statistics. Put a million mechs or regs in a million people's hands, and #1 and #2 happening are statistical certainties. As are the resulting accidents.

I went into this because education can minimize risk, but it can never eliminate it when something is inherently risky, as is any incendiary device missing a safety fuse, which is what mechs are all about.

I am not anti-mech. I am just a realist and I think I have a very realistic understanding of basic risk assessment. Anyone that says "this is 100% safe" is deluding themselves. Nothing inherently dangerous can be made 100% safe, ever. Fact of life born out by statistics and time.

 

[Stinkytofus]

User error can destroy anything...even a hammer.

Not everyone wants or needs a safety net at the sacrifice of durability.

To each their own, but no, Mechs aren't going away.

Not saying mechs are gona die but in this day and age, regulated mods are safer, i had 3 incidents with mechs, even tho it is sexy, it isnt worth the hassle for me to manually make sure i am not putting myself at risk, but i do have a mech for backup in case my regulated dies on me

 

[sonicbomb]

Oh god this discussion, again...
I use both, because it's about the right tool for the job.

 

[Mrez]

Why be choosy. Have both. I love my snow wolf for the battery life when im out and about and when I want to go deeper into subohm territory. I use my mech when I want a lower profile or lounging around the house. It just depends on what your needs and comfort levels are.

 

[roxynoodle]

But I do use RBAs ................. with 2 ohm coils in them.
Believe it or not, you really do get to choose which RBA you wish to use.
If you don't want to use a sub ohm RBA, there are other choices.
Those little 11mm chambers produce about the most intense flavor you will ever encounter.

Honestly, I love small chamber drippers. They are great for flavor.

Not saying mechs are gona die but in this day and age, regulated mods are safer, i had 3 incidents with mechs, even tho it is sexy, it isnt worth the hassle for me to manually make sure i am not putting myself at risk, but i do have a mech for backup in case my regulated dies on me

Well, considering my only dangerous mod situation came from a regulated setting on fire in my vape stand, not sure I feel that way anymore It wasn't new. I had it several weeks, without any indication there was a problem. It didn't autofire, and I hadn't used it in more than an hour. It just suddenly burst into flames and there was no obvious cause.