REO CLONED

[Bad Ninja]

Maybe...
I'm a clone fan too, and have over a hundred mods. Mostly clones.

fasttech doesn't make anything.

They buy and sell clones from dozens of companies.

What part won't happen?

The international exposure to people who otherwise would never hear about a REO?
That's already happening right now.

People wanting a real REO after a positive experience with a clone?
They start around $130, which isn't that bad for what you get.
Rob offers upgrades as they are developed so that's a plus... Not everyone will get a real one, but some will, that wouldn't have otherwise.
The standard reonauti will always be there.

Almost all the authentics I own came from a positive clone experience ( and a realistic price...I won't overpay for a name).


Now I do agree Rob probably won't take advantage of this...but If I were him I sure would.
His website kills sales before they get started.
Opportunity is a-knockin'.

 

[thetrucker]

I agree that his website needs a little user friendly tune up----ahahah

It seems like there is a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

The basic website idea is there....not bad but needs a little something.

I see mods for sale for 15 dollars and then finally it occurs to me these are just the blemished doors for mods.

I was confused for awhile.

Will eventually get an authentic REOS mod.

 

[93gc40]

Now I do agree Rob probably won't take advantage of this...but If I were him I sure would.
His website kills sales before they get started.
Opportunity is a-knockin'.

The lack of Info and pics on the REOS site would cause major complaints to a dedicated Fastech buyer. Granted details and pics MIGHT be more important to a clone buyer.

The lack of product info on the REOS site turned me off on them, at first. I found that site before find this forum.

 

[Bad Ninja]

The lack of Info and pics on the REOS site would cause major complaints to a dedicated Fastech buyer. Granted details and pics MIGHT be more important to a clone buyer.

The lack of product info on the REOS site turned me off on them, at first. I found that site before find this forum.

He just needs a skilled web designer to help him build a basic site with a cart.

You have to search and click all over the site to finally get to a product and you can't be sure if it's actually for sale or not.
It's a nightmare. Extremely bad. Obviously hurting sales bad.
Rob may make great mods but his web skills aren't cutting it.

Surely one of the REO fanatics could help the guy out.

 

[thetrucker]

When I get ready to buy an authentic REOS mod I will probably call Rob instead of stumble around

on this website of his.

 

[muzichead]

I'm not really sure as to what all the fuss is over Rob's site. I have never had a problem finding anything on it. The descriptions can be found on the main page, and if you are looking for anything in particular, hover over the shop link. If having to click twice just to get to mods or rebuildables is troublesome for you, then obviously you don't peruse 80% of the vaping vendors on the internet!!! Everyone's site needs some kind of makeover in some way, shape, or form. How many clicks does it take to find what your looking for on fastech? That site is the worst. As to their customer service / return policy, go over to the negative review section of the forum and read a few of the horror stories that have been posted. I find it laughable that anyone would ever think they could get a REO Grand for $15!!! Maybe they should take that $15 and put towards some new eyeglasses, cause there obviously is a problem reading a description as to what your trying to click on. I really doubt Rob is losing any business because of his site...

 

[93gc40]

Not that there is anything wrong with the Reos site..... But for me it was/is not setup to cater to the NEWBIE vaper or a comparative shopper. Any detailed info I got on the Reos mods was and is from Roes addicts on this site. And even then is comes mostly from reading between the lines of the arrogant bragging.

 

[cadman]

Not that there is anything wrong with the Reos site..... But for me it was/is not setup to cater to the NEWBIE vaper or a comparative shopper. Any detailed info I got on the Reos mods was and is from Roes addicts on this site. And even then is comes mostly from reading between the lines of the arrogant bragging.

Not bragging if it is true...lol

 

[suspectK]

Careful now, gc.. You might need to grab a sturdy stick to start poking around for mines...

You don't take the 'r', 'a', and the infamous 'p' word in vain in "their house."

 

[Bad Ninja]

I'm not really sure as to what all the fuss is over Rob's site. I have never had a problem finding anything on it. The descriptions can be found on the main page, and if you are looking for anything in particular, hover over the shop link. If having to click twice just to get to mods or rebuildables is troublesome for you, then obviously you don't peruse 80% of the vaping vendors on the internet!!! Everyone's site needs some kind of makeover in some way, shape, or form. How many clicks does it take to find what your looking for on fastech? That site is the worst. As to their customer service / return policy, go over to the negative review section of the forum and read a few of the horror stories that have been posted. I find it laughable that anyone would ever think they could get a REO Grand for $15!!! Maybe they should take that $15 and put towards some new eyeglasses, cause there obviously is a problem reading a description as to what your trying to click on. I really doubt Rob is losing any business because of his site...

Rob posted a few weeks ago that he had to let a few employees go.
This was before any clones were available.

I'm not taking a guess here, I'm trying to offer some valuable advice to a guy that you all seem to think deserves it.

I started and ran a successful automotive parts manufacturing business for 22 years.

I sold the company when I retired.
I have no skin in this game and I'm only trying to help.

Stop stroking his rep and be honest with the guy.
The site is horrible, and it's costing him sales.

 

[jrs99]

I'm not really sure as to what all the fuss is over Rob's site. I have never had a problem finding anything on it. The descriptions can be found on the main page, and if you are looking for anything in particular, hover over the shop link. If having to click twice just to get to mods or rebuildables is troublesome for you, then obviously you don't peruse 80% of the vaping vendors on the internet!!! Everyone's site needs some kind of makeover in some way, shape, or form. How many clicks does it take to find what your looking for on fastech? That site is the worst. As to their customer service / return policy, go over to the negative review section of the forum and read a few of the horror stories that have been posted. I find it laughable that anyone would ever think they could get a REO Grand for $15!!! Maybe they should take that $15 and put towards some new eyeglasses, cause there obviously is a problem reading a description as to what your trying to click on. I really doubt Rob is losing any business because of his site...

Lol, the website is not intuitive enough for the fasttech cowboys
It's seriously starting to sound like a broken record.
REO Mods is 3 freaking people. I'd rather Rob and the crew work on continuing to put out great mods than futz around with a website that works perfectly fine for a majority of his customers.
If you can't figure out how to purchase something off his site then...well... It ain't rocket science.
It says right under the little picture of the mod "In stock" or "out of stock". It lists a price and a little button to click so you can add it to your cart. How ....ing hard is that?
Rob's a mod designer, not a web designer. Money spent on web design would drive up the cost of the mods or eat into whatever profit Rob makes which honestly doesn't sound like a whole lot.
You would think someone with 22 years of manufacturing experience and such great marketing prowess would be making bank right now selling $20 mods from some super sweet website!

 

[Lessifer]

I don't think anyone is trying to insult Rob. The website is functional, but it's not as easy to use as it could be. If that's not a priority, it's not a priority.

 

[Asbestos4004]

As tempting as it is to stick up for Rob, he doesn't need me to defend him from a few arm chair quarterbacks who'd never buy one of his mods anyway.
Is his website great? No. Are his mods great? Yes.
I seriously doubt there's anyone who wanted a reo and is doing without because they couldn't figure out how to order one.
I see nothing wrong with buying a clone of a reo or any other mod, if that's what you want to do. Some people like buying clones, big deal. I bought my fair share of clones too. I figured out what I like and I got past the period of needing every single thing that got released. I know what works for me...so instead of 50 knock off setups, I have 16 authentic setups. Who cares....

 

[Bookworm]

Come on, that site does need to be updated and fixed. Just once, mind you. I'm sure you could get an updated page on the cheap. Even a square space page would look better. I can find my way around and figure out how to find one and add it to my cart, but I shouldn't have to. It should be much more simple. I think the site could definitely be costing him sales.

Back to the topic at hand, I would love to see a regulated version of this clone. One of the main reasons I haven't bought a Reo is that I don't really want a mech mod. The few times I have come close were older VVs in the classifieds.

 

[jrs99]

It's a mom and pop shop not Walmart

 

[Bad Ninja]

First of all Rob said business has slowed down.
He said he had to lay off employees due to loss of business.

I guarantee he has lost sales due to his website being ridiculously difficult to navigate.

For a web based business, your we store is extremely important.

You only get one chance to make a first impression.

It's a mom and pop shop not Walmart

That's not an excuse. That's a cop out.

The whole point is to make it as simple easy as possible for a customer to find and purchase your product.

Business 101.

Again, I was offering sound, proven, advice to help a guy who admitted having problems, and with a little guidance, could easily overcome them.

Just don't blame the clones when business slows.

 

[six]

First of all Rob said business has slowed down.
He said he had to lay off employees due to loss of business.

I guarantee he has lost sales due to his website being ridiculously difficult to navigate.

For a web based business, your we store is extremely important.

You only get one chance to make a first impression.

That's not an excuse. That's a cop out.
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He had a recent re-design. I'm sure he paid through the nose for it, too. Would I have done it differently? Yeah, probably. Is it better than it used to be? Yup. I think it is. Not knowing exactly which content management system he's got, it's pretty hard to say if his web designer understood his needs or not or if his designer understood his technical ability or lack thereof. ... But, really. It's moot.

The fact is, his business has relied heavily on his presence on ECF and on other "chatter" (for lack of a better term) on other forums. In fact, his business *started* right here on ECF and for quite some time, he had a vendor thread... then he got a vendor forum... then he got a web site. The recent re-design of ECF is just as likely to blame for any slow down in sales as anything else. His primary potential customers don't find him with google searches. They find him by reading forums.

It's tough to predict the future. But, the other fact of the matter is --> He has a U.S. Patent. He has known clones were coming and has had plenty of time to ponder and plan. And, on top of that, we all know that mods of all sorts are in jeopardy from over zealous regulators and legislators. No matter how you slice it, change is the only constant. He's a smart guy. I bet he has come up with ideas for whatever his next steps should be.

 

[coolerat]

I'm not a Reo buyer now nor will I be in the future. I don't know the guy at all and wish him no harm and instead wish him the general well being of a stranger.

I have visited the Reo site. It is truly aweful. Worst site I have ever been to. My wife runs a business with a website and she has to build it herself, which she hates doing. Its a ton of work when she would much rather be doing what it is she actually does. But that website brings in a ton of business. Maybe even most of it, I don't have the numbers.

Doing things you hate well is a huge part of running a business. I do afew things on the side myself and while what I build is very good if I do say so myself my people skills suck. I HATE building websites so people don't know I'm out there. I don't interact well with people. People forget they are dealing with me to buy what I build not make a friend. Its just the way it is.

That said the Reo is about the last thing to be cloned so he's had tons of time to prepare.

 

[super_X_drifter]

One highly important feature thats often overlooked by the tire kickers on Robs website is the FREAKIN phone number. Yeah, the phone number. When you call it you get him. Every time. Anyone serious about buying one wouldn't go all Edith Bunker and be like "oh, jeepers, it's just so hard to work my way around this website, I guess I'll just not get the mod I want cause it's so hard to clickity click, I'll go buy a clone cause they have a better website"

No they wouldn't. They'd call the place and when the dude answered, a dude that's sold hundreds of thousands of authentic mods, they'd place their order over the phone.

Or they'd email. Yep his email is there too for the shyer types. You can also order that way.

Every one I ever bought was bought either by phone or email.

Again, I can't compare it to the high volume low quality peddler websites cause I don't go to their sites but I can say that his site doesn't really represent as well as it could. But the phone number? How many vendors have a phone number that puts you to the maker listed. I'm guessing about zero.

 

[93gc40]

It's a mom and pop shop not Walmart

True, but if Mom and pop are to compete with the walmarts. They have to do MORE to get customers than does the walmart. So if I can get more detailed info on a Reo from a Fastech or cloners site. The REAL Reo site better have enough info to show why I should buy the "original" vs the clone. Gotta have some Eye candy, to blur that 6x higher price tag.