Reo compatible RBAs

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patrao_n

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The second one you posted. The a6. Is really easy to mod. Just push out the middle pin and cut a groove on the side. I really like how tight the cap fits as well. And mine will drain very well leaving a dry deck behind after squonking.
The first link will be on my next order. Please post details about it when you get it thanks

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Here's a few thoughts on these two rda's:
https://www.fasttech.com/product/1353408
https://www.fasttech.com/product/1391101

A pic of the bases and caps of these two rda's (after drilling for bottom feed)



Both bases are pretty well identical, 12.8mm diameter where the o-rings are fitted, around 14.5mm total outside diameter, with a slight dish in the floor, and the top caps are interchangeable. Both have brass center posts making it easy to drill compared to stainless. Or you could slot the center pin or center pin insulator, I haven't tried those methods. I use a 3/64" drill to drill the center pin, last time I did it I drilled from above, and then from below, meeting in the middle, not sure if this is the best method but it ensures a nice neat hole in the center of the bottom of the post, and less chance of wandering off-center too far. I fit a 510-510 adapter to center the drill bit on the bottom of the post to drill it, and use a block of wood which has 2 holes, one for the 510 connector and one for the whole base to hold it all straight and level. The same piece of wood is also used to press out and refit the center pin using the drill press as a manual press. There is also a 1/8" hole in the wood to hold the center pin while the actual feed hole/s is drilled, the holes that let the liquid onto the floor of the atty.





These two rba's vape well and there is no leakage if the o-rings are good, they have a smaller chamber than an RM2. To me they are somewhere between a RM2 and an Igo-S. Sometimes the o-rings are chopped up a bit on assembly at the factory. The o-rings do swell a bit with eliquid over time. I have a selection of 1mm thickness o-rings in case. A 10mm diameter o-ring will stretch and be thinner than a 12mm diameter for example, so you can fine tune the fit of the cap. If the cap is too tight, an alternative method is to put the base in the drill press and use a triangular file to deepen the grooves for the o-rings. I have a special bolt for this, the diameter of the bolt fits the drip tip hole snugly, I rounded off the head of the bolt on a bench grinder to fit inside the cap, and put a washer and nut down over the bolt where the drip tip normally goes. Then the long threaded end of the bolt is coming out the top of the cap and this can be put in the drill press for polishing or shaping of the cap. I have shaped a couple of caps using files with the cap spinning in the drill press, then polished them. Slow work compared to brass, but not that tedious.

The order I do it in:
1. Drill the center post vertically from top and bottom.
2. Press out the center pin and drill the side feed hole or holes.
3. Press the center pin back in making sure you have the coil wire holes lined up properly.

You want the center pin to sit about 0.170" from the bottom surface of the atty. If you vape heavy VG liquid in a cold climate you might want to use a 1/16" drill bit for drilling the center post. Be careful of the threads if doing this from the top of the post.
 

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The order I do it in:
1. Drill the center post vertically from top and bottom.
2. Press out the center pin and drill the side feed hole or holes.
3. Press the center pin back in making sure you have the coil wire holes lined up properly.

1. is a great method if you screw up on an SS pinned RDA and work harden your hole (which I've done a number of times :facepalm:)
2. that works good but I've found to get your hole right on the deck for suck-back I screw the RDA onto an old dead tube mod and lay it in a notch cut into my work board
 
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    Hvae you used the V2 bottom feed style yet?

    And do you know, will the kit work on the V1? I have a V1, and I emailed Elevated about it, they said they werent sure, but assumed it probbly would work because the V1 and V2 aren't that much different aside from the drip well. But they couldnt guarantee.

    I like my Origen enough that I would CONSIDER buying a V2 if I had too, but Id really love to just buy the kit. (Love the origen for vapor and flavor.. I mean really stellar. But building her.. NO. Hate it, and always avoid it)

    Btw, I havent any info on the Zenith, other than too say, if that thing is going bottom fed.. SWEET! Ive been procrastinating buying the Zenith for whatver reason, but now my interest is higher.
     

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    I now have a BF modded Zenith. After 4 cobalt bits trying to drill the side hole I destroyed the original center pin. I found that the insulator for the Cyclone fit perfect so I pulled a BF center pin out of one of my cyclones and stuffed that in there.
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    Works great! :)

    When I do my next one I think I'll cut out the side juice hole the same way they notched out the center posts for the wire catch holes. The center was pretty easy to drill out but I suspect the way they are tempered is what makes drilling the side hole more of a challenge. Soft on the inside, hard on the outside. (Just guessing)

    I also have the Origin V2 with the BF center pin upgrade. I prefer the Zenith for flavor and vapor. The horizontal coils just seem to work better for bottom feeding than the vertical option on the Origin. The Origin is much higher quality construction though. The Zenith posts are considerably weakened by the method used to make the wire catch holes. You will notice in my pick the posts are slightly twisted already from tightening the wires down and I have a good feel for torque and didn't use excessive force.

    It looks like the next batch of Zenith's are coming out the last week of this month. No word yet if they're releasing the BF upgrade option. So far that's just a not fully confirmed rumor.

    Vapes like a beast. I've thoroughly enjoyed having juice on tap. It was worth it. :)
     

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    Here is some advice I have to give for the rm2. Dont use too big of an oring on the threading for the top cap. I did this with an oring I found in my vapebox. It fit perfectly around the threads. Actually kinda tight. It was nice to have it, to prevent any liquid from seeping out there. But that means I had to put my coil really high off the deck. And because I am vaping 100% vg, it takes a ridiculous long squonk to reach the coil. Burnt wick after wick before I realized what was wrong. Just a heads up

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    Well I was stupid. I wanted to change the position of the hole when its screwed on. So I used sand paper on a flat suface and sanded it down. I must have not done it completely even because on hot days it would let loose a couple drops of eliquid. Granted not all at once. But still enough to botger me.

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    Patrao, one way around that is to remove even more material from the bottom of the cap, around 1mm or whatever the thickness of your o-ring is. Its not easy to remove exactly the right amount of material, I did it in stages of trial and error. This will bring your air hole down to the correct height. The fine thread on the base/cap junction allows you to make 0.5mm (20 thou) height adjustments of the air hole IIRC.

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    I have only used RM2's on my Grand but have ordered an Atomic RDA which should be with me tomorrow.

    I couldn't find a bottom fed cyclone in stock so impulse purchased the atomic to try. I will probably test it on an old tube mod and if it's as good an atti as all the reviews say I may try and get the centre pin drilled ready for an LP Grand.

    I have only seen the bottom fed cyclone with the drilled air hole. Does anyone know if the AFC top cap can be used on the bottom feed deck ?
     

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    I have only used RM2's on my Grand but have ordered an Atomic RDA which should be with me tomorrow.

    I couldn't find a bottom fed cyclone in stock so impulse purchased the atomic to try. I will probably test it on an old tube mod and if it's as good an atti as all the reviews say I may try and get the centre pin drilled ready for an LP Grand.

    I have only seen the bottom fed cyclone with the drilled air hole. Does anyone know if the AFC top cap can be used on the bottom feed deck ?
    Yes the caps for the Cyclone are interchangeable. But the AFC cap makes it wider so that will only fit on an LP Grand.
     

    UKPaul

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    Got my genuine atomic today.

    I don't have an LP Grand yet but thought I would test it out on an old tube mod and if I liked it I could try drilling it for bottom feeding ready for when the LP Grand with SO kit becomes available.

    I have been running a stock Grand + RM2 exclusively for the last 7 or 8 months with a 0.5 ohm coil which is a fantastic combination.

    I set the Atomic up first with dual coils at 0.5ohm + rolled cotton wicks and was disappointed. I then tried it with a single 1 ohm coil and then finally with a single 0.6 ohm coil. Again I am disappointed with the vape when compared to the RM2.

    Based on initial impressions it doesn't warrant the time or money to convert to bottom feeding. Although the Atomic is a nice atti and very well made and looks superb on the Grand i can only assume that the disappointing vape is possibly due to the larger chamber it has compared with the RM2.

    I am thinking I must be doing something wrong with the Atomic as most of the reviews i have watched rate it as one of the best RDA's around.

    Maybe I have been spoilt with the RM2 which IMO punches far above its weight.

    I would like to try the vicious ant cyclone bottom feeder as it appears to have a small chamber as well and also looks good in all the pictures I have seen but the BF version is currently out of stock.

    Any suggestions or views on the Atomic or Cyclone BF will be much appreciated.
     
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