Reo Grand won't fire....?

[DarkestPhoenix]

I've been using my Reo Grand for about ten days now....I don't think it's the end-all be-all that everyone else does...it does splash hot juice in your mouth from time to time, which my ego never did, but the flavor is SLIGHTLY better, so, trade-off. Also a bit disappointed in battery life, but such is the nature of these things. Anyway...all of that is not really why I'm writing.

Yesterday, for some reason, it just died, so I figured, time for a new battery. Swapped it out, nothing. Then, I wondered if I popped the atty. So, exchanged that, and then STILL nothing happened. Checked the swivel trigger to make sure I wasn't an idiot, nope fine. Checked the Novalux or whatever on the firing pin, all good. Couldn't figure it out, so I went to bed. Then, picked it up this morning and tried it out and it worked fine. For about three puffs. Now it won't work again. Anyone have any ideas?! I'm going crazy, since I dropped good cash on this thing and I'm already having problems!!!

Now, to answer some of the questions that were posed in the original thread....

I'm using these for batteries...except mine do not have that "+ Power" logo thing on them...I bought them with an Ultrafire charger.

I would call Rob, but unfortunately, I'm in Afghanistan and logistically-speaking, it's a bit tough. I did send him an email and a PM, though.

I'm using these attys. Like I said, they're fine and they work for a little bit and then just.......nothing. I'm sure I flood the .... out of them, which could explain the juice in the mouth....but flooding it is the whole reason why I got these...I used to drip like a madman.

I don't think it's the batteries or the charger, honestly. They worked fine for a week, and then nothing. Even now, they'll work for a bit, then nothing again. Plus, it took my last battery a couple hours to charge, so I know it was dead.

I actually got my REO in August, but I also ordered two atomizers with it, and they didn't come with the shipment and I didn't get any Novalux, either...but since I was only home two weeks, I didn't email Rob about it, I just figured I'd suck it up and deal with it, especially since he "hooked me up" and sent me the one I wanted without having to watch the site like a hawk, since my internet in the desert is sporadic, at best.

So, I ordered some from Heaven Gifts instead...had to wait an age for them to arrive (It was Chinese New Year or something and they couldn't ship out for awhile...oh, well, 10% off the whole order). Hence the reason I've been staring at it for a couple months waiting to use it.

Anyway, long story short......................PLEASE HELP!!!

 

[Justice]

It's hard to trouble shoot over net but if you are getting juice in your mouth I'd guess first off your atty is flooded I use the same attys regularily myself. When you put your batt in how much does it push on the spring ? Do you have to compress the sring some to get batt in or does it kind of just slide in ?

 

[mlinky]

Do you have access to a multimeter? If the charger isn't working well, the batteries could be essentially dead. That would explain why they "rested" overnight, fired a bit, then stopped.

Also, if you don't have any Noalox, you could have oxidization on your firing pin. Take a Q Tip dipped in alcohol and give it a good cleaning (and the positive nipple of your battery too).

 

[mlinky]

I just noticed, that battery is a flat top. That can keep you from getting a good connection. If you spin the battery in the REO, does it fire?

 

[mlinky]

Also, when you clean the firing pin, clean out the threading in your atty connection too. We want to eliminate anything that could interrupt the circuit.

Sorry for all the posts.

 

[MTV]

just saw that...flat top batts will cause a problem...that will lead to an over squonk problem...just compounding the problem

 

[Justice]

just saw that...flat top batts will cause a problem...that will lead to an over squonk problem...just compounding the problem

It could make a person think they need more juice if it's not firing proper yes. I had those batts I think when I first got my Reo's they were too big if they are the same ones I had and I had to push button harder to make contact.

 

[mlinky]

I just thought of something else

Since you are using protected batteries, they will shut off if the mod shorts out. When there is a short in a REO, 99% of the time it is caused by bad attys (where the insulation allows the center post to touch the negative wall).

Are there any other vapers there that you could try an atty from a different batch, or a carto?

 

[Justice]

I just thought of something else

Since you are using protected batteries, they will shut off if the mod shorts out. When there is a short in a REO, 99% of the time it is caused by bad attys (where the insulation allows the center post to touch the negative wall).

Are there any other vapers there that you could try an atty from a different batch, or a carto?

Using the unprotected batts with lr attys could shut off batts too couldn't it ?

Edit: my stupid I know what I'm talking about I think I may have just had a dislexic moment even tho I'm not dislexic at least not that I know of

 

[washvap]

It could if it's defective or that the batteries themselves have been damaged. This is possible if the person ran their batteries until they were dead before charging again. Might not be an immediate problem but, I'm sure you can guess that it wouldn't be long before...........

 

[nerak]

There is a group of people over there that vape. I have contacted someone here that is in touch with them. Maybe there would be a way for someone to help you see what the problem is. I will let you know when she contacts me again.

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Having a multi-meter would be really helpful right now to help trouble shoot. I wonder if Adam is over there yet and if these guys are anywhere near each other.

 

[salemgold]

I will alert my Army friends that are over there but I don't think they are familiar with the REO at all.
They may however have something that you could use if you are without a PV so I will let alert them to this thread.

 

[Parmacrafter]

I think the biggest problem is the flat top batteries. On top of that the low resistance atty could be causing the battery protection circuit to trip if you are hitting it several times in a row. The AW IMR batteries can handle that high amperage a lot better than the standard protected batteries.

It is also possible that a short in the atty caused the spring to collapse and now the battery isn't making contact with the firing pin properly. Maybe you could take a pic of the inside of your reo without the battery and someone could help you determine if the spring has collapsed.

As for juice splashing in your mouth. The atty you are using is very low ohm. Your ego was only pushing 3.2 volts to that atty. Your Reo is pushing 4.2 volts on a full charge. That would easily explain the juice in your mouth. I good drip tip might help with that. Also possible you are flooding your atty a bit.

Also of note: If your battery is drained far enough to not fire your atty any longer then it should easily take 4-6 hours to fully charge them up again.

 

[IMWylde]

Of the three components I would suspect the charger first. My first thought was that you might have your button spun, if not check to make sure the contact is dropping when you push the button. look at the battery to see where its hitting make sure there is no problem there. Its fully mechanical so there's no worries about electronics, probably either not getting a good charge or not making a proper connection.


You can bet this is going to get fixed. And long term the REO product is going to stand up. Solid work.

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

I also wanted to add a little....

First....juice in the mouth. The splash comes from too much juice a hotter running atty. Your 1.5Ω atty that you used on your eGo is running on more power with Grand than it ever did on the eGo. So you will see not only a difference in behavior, but also a difference in flavor. To help with this, try drawing a little slower and softer than you did on the eGo.

Battery life....the 18650 should be providing you with excellent vaping time. So if you're not getting at least 6mls worth of vaping out of this battery, then there is certainly a problem. As it has been pointed out above...the battery protection could have been tripped if there was a short in the mod due to a bad atty or having an atty screwed on too tightly. Having the multi-meter on hand would help track battery life, by testing it as it comes off the charger, and again when it you notice a major performance drop. This way you could tell whether there is a problem with the charger or the battery. If you have a mm and need a hand, let us know...we'll walk you through it.

 

[DarkestPhoenix]

Okay, I think I got this thing licked. Took my battery off the charger and tried it out...nothing. Given you said the flat tops are harder to connect, and I guess I have noticed I've needed to hit it harder and harder. I took the battery out, pushed down the firing pin and bent it just a LITTLE bit more and now it's firing again.

Don't worry about backups....I got ego tanks, MAP tanks, Storm tanks....everything a guy could want. Never without a backup, but I like my REO at "home" in my room and the ego-T for out and about.

Trying to cut down on my nic intake so mixing the old 12-16 mg stuff with 0 nic mints, so maybe I'm just vaping the hell out of it...who knows! I appreciate all the help!

Oh, btw, got an email from Robert...said he'd send out the attys and he forgot...like I said, that wasn't a huge deal, it was nice just to get the gold/black (Iowa Hawkeye) one I wanted!!

 

[mlinky]

Using the unprotected batts with lr attys could shut off batts too couldn't it ?

It could theoretically kill the batteries, but the protection board shuts the battery down when there is a short, so an unprotected battery won't shut off because of the protection board circuit being tripped.

 

[washvap]

Okay, I think I got this thing licked. Took my battery off the charger and tried it out...nothing. Given you said the flat tops are harder to connect, and I guess I have noticed I've needed to hit it harder and harder. I took the battery out, pushed down the firing pin and bent it just a LITTLE bit more and now it's firing again.

Don't worry about backups....I got ego tanks, MAP tanks, Storm tanks....everything a guy could want. Never without a backup, but I like my REO at "home" in my room and the ego-T for out and about.

Trying to cut down on my nic intake so mixing the old 12-16 mg stuff with 0 nic mints, so maybe I'm just vaping the hell out of it...who knows! I appreciate all the help!

Oh, btw, got an email from Robert...said he'd send out the attys and he forgot...like I said, that wasn't a huge deal, it was nice just to get the gold/black (Iowa Hawkeye) one I wanted!!

Glad that it worked out for you. Although, I HIGHLY suggest getting some AW IMR 18650's since that's going to give you optimum performance from your REO. It's meant to work with LR atomizers/cartomizers since the power doesn't drop in them until it's almost run dry.

Honestly, I still use my EGO-T sometimes but, I usually take my mini or army tank with me when I'm out.

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Okay, I think I got this thing licked. Took my battery off the charger and tried it out...nothing. Given you said the flat tops are harder to connect, and I guess I have noticed I've needed to hit it harder and harder. I took the battery out, pushed down the firing pin and bent it just a LITTLE bit more and now it's firing again.

Don't worry about backups....I got ego tanks, MAP tanks, Storm tanks....everything a guy could want. Never without a backup, but I like my REO at "home" in my room and the ego-T for out and about.

Trying to cut down on my nic intake so mixing the old 12-16 mg stuff with 0 nic mints, so maybe I'm just vaping the hell out of it...who knows! I appreciate all the help!

Oh, btw, got an email from Robert...said he'd send out the attys and he forgot...like I said, that wasn't a huge deal, it was nice just to get the gold/black (Iowa Hawkeye) one I wanted!!

OH!!! It just occurred to me...the flat tops don't charge well...well, they don't on my charger. I use magnets as spacers so the connection can be made on the positive end. The positive connection on the charger doesn't stick out far enough to connect to the battery.
I totally forgot about this because I hate using my flat tops....so I rarely ever use them.