returning to e-cigs

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jiff

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Well, I have my doubts anyone round these parts remember me, but I was an active member a couple years ago. Life got hectic, went back to analogues. Now I've switched back to my e-cig, and figured I should get reinvolved with this good lil community.

Anywaaaays...

I'm vapin on a silver bullet with the 510 attys... Uhh, so, my question is: how out dated is my pv? It's been nearly 2 years so I'm sure there's a vast amount of new e-cigs out there. Are there better atomizers yet? I used to build my own (left them all back in maine, just brought the SB with me), so is there any innovations in the technology I should know about before starting up my old antics?

Got so many questions about the current affairs of the e-cig world.. What are the laws like now? Any states ever fall to restrictions on e-cig use? Anyone know if arizona is still safe?

Sorry for all the questions! But answers would be cool. Also if anyone remembers me speak up would love to see if any old regulars are still around...
 

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Off course I do not know you or vise versa but wanted to say Congrats on finding your way back jiff.
I am sure others can answer your questions with more competence then I can.
Only thing I would like to mention is the newest trend regarding rebuildable atomizer.
There is one that we can rebuild without allot of effort. The first one (as far as I know) was the Genisis.
Based on the Genisis Principe there are many others being offered either through builders as well as co-ops.
Might want to check that out ;)

Looking forward to your stories from the old vaping days as you had to walk to school, in the winter, 10 miles, without any shoes on, uphill, both ways! :D
 

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I'm vapin on a silver bullet with the 510 attys... Uhh, so, my question is: how out dated is my pv?

Nowhere near as out-dated as analogues. :2cool:

But you knew that already. I'm using original eGo batteries and plain old (with cotton filler catridge) 510 atomizers (with the little cone cover usually, sometimes LR). I've tried some tanks and cartos and mods but the hit from the 510 combined with the convenience of the PCC just works best for me. That and the fact that I stocked up on assorted 510 and eGo atomizers during various sales means I'll be using this set-up for quite some time. Unless I'm driving, then it's back to a tank for a few hours.

All but one person I've encountered in the real world have been using mass-market ecigs (510s, eGos, 808s, disposables) so you're not too far behind the curve.

But the one thing you may have missed that I think is worth investigating is variable voltage. There are a few mods out there that will let you adjust your voltage and there are now eGo batteries that do the same thing. I might order a few if I can't get my eGo booster fixed.
 

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Your Silver Bullet is still very high up in the mods category. Many are using it and loving it.

Lots more PV's have hit the market and variable voltage vaping is commonplace nowadays. You can enter the variable voltage world with an eGo Twist or a Lavatube, both of which use 510 thread attys. For high end variable voltage users, the Provari and other high end VV mods are leading the way.

Boge cartos have taken over most of those who have tried them. They are easy to fill, last several days, and require topping off periodically, but give you the best vaping experience this side of dripping. At 3.7v, a Boge 2.0 ohm carto is the popular choice. For VV PV's 3 ohms is popular at 4.2v and higher.

The DCT carto tank is very in style these days. It's a 1.5 or 3.0 single coil carto that slides down into the center of a small tank. It will produce clouds of vapor and provide great flavor from a 3.7v PV. These come in 3.5ml and 6.0ml sizes for an all day vape on a quick fill. You have to prime the carto at first fill and after that, you just slide the carto down and fill the tank from a syringe.

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Welcome back jiff!

From what I've seen the SB is still widely used, but the carto/tank options have improved greatly. As mentioned above, variable volt designs have become quite popular but i'm sure the other current SB users will have some great suggestions for the best vape on your mod.

As for legislation in Arizona, i'm not sure. Your best bet for that info would be to check out CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association and see if they have anything listed for that region or contact them for specifics if not.

Good to see you back.
 

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Oh someone finally developed a commercial tank mod? Neat! How effective are they and what sort of maintenance is required?

Rebuildable atomizers? Cartos that last 3 days? Variable voltage is mainstream!? What thread size are the rebuildable attys? Since those are the parts that require the most investment (next to liquid), don't wanna order a bunch and then be like "oh noes the eGo and silver bullet dont fit these!"

My oh my... Things have changed for the better it would seem!

May have to hop on board the VV train. Back when I was vapin before only a couple commercial e-cigs had VV, only way to get it otherwise was to mod your own. Now, is 5v with LR attys still considered 'the sweet spot' for wattage? Cuz I won't bother going VV if 5v vaping is still all it used to be.

Looks like I should go back into modding. Quick search around the market, and looks like modding is still the cheapest way to get 'the' vaping experience.

Oh, and yeah, back in the day I recall posting in a 100+ page thread dedicated to making fun of everyone posting with captioned pictures :p Can't remember what that contest was but damn it was hilarious
 

jiff

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Welcome back jiff!

From what I've seen the SB is still widely used, but the carto/tank options have improved greatly. As mentioned above, variable volt designs have become quite popular but i'm sure the other current SB users will have some great suggestions for the best vape on your mod.

As for legislation in Arizona, i'm not sure. Your best bet for that info would be to check out CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association and see if they have anything listed for that region or contact them for specifics if not.

Good to see you back.

Hehe... I think I am still listed as a regional casaa rep for Maine, I KNOW I still get emails so it's a safe bet... I should prob make contact with em and update it to northern AZ :p
 

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Well, I have my doubts anyone round these parts remember me, but I was an active member a couple years ago. Life got hectic, went back to analogues. Now I've switched back to my e-cig, and figured I should get reinvolved with this good lil community.

Anywaaaays...

I'm vapin on a silver bullet with the 510 attys... Uhh, so, my question is: how out dated is my pv? It's been nearly 2 years so I'm sure there's a vast amount of new e-cigs out there. Are there better atomizers yet? I used to build my own (left them all back in maine, just brought the SB with me), so is there any innovations in the technology I should know about before starting up my old antics?

Got so many questions about the current affairs of the e-cig world.. What are the laws like now? Any states ever fall to restrictions on e-cig use? Anyone know if arizona is still safe?

Sorry for all the questions! But answers would be cool. Also if anyone remembers me speak up would love to see if any old regulars are still around...

Yes Arizona is still safe, I like in Scottsdale, Az... Your SB is still OK if used with LR attys.. I would move up to a VV/VW mod.... Big differance in performance and every hit is consistaned through out the battery charge.... Im lovin my Provari
 

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Now, is 5v with LR attys still considered 'the sweet spot' for wattage? Cuz I won't bother going VV if 5v vaping is still all it used to be.

Ideal voltage/wattage varies from person to person, juice to juice, and (for many) time and scenario. I liked 5v on a 910, but significantly less on a 510. And it changes for juice. And some times (like when drinking) I just like to turn it up a little higher. And cranking it up is an easy way to get some extra life out of an atomizer that's dying or gunked up.

An eGo twist battery is quite cheap from Heaven Gifts if you want to try one out.
 

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Ikenvape IO6 atties are really popular (510 connector, but you need a sleeve if you want to use standard 510/901 diameter drip tips).

The Cisco Spec atties are also very popular, his 306 format and HH.357 (sold at avidvaper).

In cartos, personally I stick with the Ikenvape 801 fusions. They're just plain good, I ended up getting a dedicated 801 top cap for my notcigs Buzz Pro VV just because that's all I use on it (fusion carto in a 1" M1A1 carto tank). I used to use an 808/801 adapter, worked fine.

VV is indeed big, though not everyone wants it. For me the joy is that I use VV with really good regulation -- consistency in output as the batteries drain.

On the other hand I freely admit I'm enjoying a simple 3.7V bottom feeder wooden box mod (Red Sky Mods Mark 9, they also do VV versions), with Cisco 1.5 ohm and a 2600 mAh AW protected battery. It fits in well in a conservative work environment (looks nice), and is totally mind-numbingly simple to use -- squeeze bottle if you don't hear a little gurgle, press fire button, that's it.

notcigs continues to make excellent buck (step down) VV, including a new top-feeder called the VVPV; Reo now has a VV Woodvil bottom feeder using the notcigs electronics, and is due to come out with the metal VV Reo Grand in about a month. The Provape Provari is very popular as a high performance boost regulator VV with LCD display/control (including ohms readout), solid track record. There are many fairly low cost VV collectively called lavatubes (LT was the first to market, many others are now carrying them), very attractively priced VV tube though not up to the build quality/performance level of a notcigs or provari (some sag as the batteries drain, at least earlier ones). Darwin is still "it" for standalone variable wattage, although Evolv (the Darwin manufacturer) has something called the Kick that can be used with large single battery PVs to add a VW module.
 
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bottom feeding mods too are popular. the reo and one competitor with a commercial style thats pretty similar.

cartomizers have become full blown tanks, 18650 and other big batt mods are more affordable than ever. all the stuff that used to be the work of modders in a garage have made it commercially. well...for the most part, id say semi commercial.


basically the industry is in catapult mode growth but still has a long way to go
 
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Lori1967

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I just came back in september to e-cigs and after about 1 year back on analogs. I can't tell you how much better I feel and how much easier it was for me this time around.
I personally started on a 901 and still use the same ole one and enjoy it. I have a few other ones that I toy around with, although I keep coming back to the same 901 set. It is neat to see how much the industry is changing and how fast it has changed.
Congrats......
Be well
Lori
 

jiff

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So much is new! so much change!

I'm gonna spend some time researching now that I have an idea what to be lookin at. Needa take a look at VV over normal HV.. seems the ability to raise/lower at will would suit my needs and wants, cuz honestly I HATE how after chain vapin a while the throat hit just disapears. Also hate how after smoking one particular plant, vaping jus doesn't cut it (even when I was using 5v).

Will also have to look into the tank mod trend. Bottom feeder box mods were big back when I first was vaping, and the first commercial tank mod was jus being developed/released at the time (if I recall correctly, I may not). Definitely curious about that innovation.

Seems my LR 510 attys are still good, but I will have to buy a couple other types to try out too....

On a slightly related note, I am hereby throwing in my vouch for the 510 atomizer... Why? Because after two years I picked up my silver bullet, with atomizer still on it; one that I had for a couple months before relapsing to analogues. To my surprise, it fired up just fine and is workin just as good as it was back then. So yeah, quality long-lasting product. Thumbs up to the designer.
 
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