RM2 Wick & Coil Setups

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I am curios about SS mesh
Whats Ribbon wire?

Your inglish is getting gooder Curly ,Im impressed

I'm speaking of Kanthal resistance wire that is nut round like regular wire, it has a cross section viewed from the end like a rectangle. Haven't gotten them in yet but I think for application on coils like the RM 2 a number 5 or 6 gage would be optimal (higher numbers being wider). Resistance wise the #6 is most similar to 30 gage kanthal, but the #5 more heavily used. Seems to garner high praise from within the ecf for its longevity as a coil building wire. Some say it stops the juice from spitting when its heated, others like the flavor it produces. Nut sure how well it will do if scrunched together though, initial plans for me is to have gaps between the wraps to allow more breathability. I think theoretically it'll have more even heat distribution with greater surface contact with wick. There have been talk that Kanthal A-1 ribbon wire is better than Kanthal D ribbon wire and haven't seen much explanation on this topic. The A-1 type is more expensive though so YMMV.

BTW, you still sound like you got something stuck in your nose....nyuck, nyuck, nyuck
 

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Wow, all sorts of knowledge being amassed and theories to be tried. Vertical ss coil going into the feed hole for a genesis style setup? Interesting. It would have to be thicker than what I normally make it to fit in the hole, but shouldn't be too hard, and it should bend. I'd reckon you'd have to bend it, put the coil into the posts and tuck the end of the coil into the hole last. May have to try it.

It would have to be made with some precision, depending on the thickness of the ceramic cup. Too far down in the hole, it may touch metal and short the RM2. Would be essential to try it on a ohm meter before screwing it onto a mechanical Grand.

And kanthal ribbon wire? Oh great, I just ordered 100 feet of the regular!

P.S.: Quickly tried the genesis style wick, it was above my skillset level. It requires the wick to be very precisely made, and holding it in the hole while putting the coil onto the posts without crushing the tube is a toughie. Honestly, unless I'm really bored with a LOT of time on my hands, I don't think I'm going to mess with it.
 
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A little tidbit of info on my latest build - Notice how the coil / wick sits higher on the side that is over the squonk hole on the theory that squozen juice would bubble up and hit the coil and wick than run down to the opposing low side, wetting the entire coil in the process.

It seems that this subtlety allows the excess juice to return, unobstructed, into the hole and I notice a difference in the vape quality because juice does not collect in the bowl (cooling the coil) as it did when I pressed the coil low on the hole side.

Yeah. I'm into subtleties.
I am with you this is why in my video I tell people to leave the coil up off the bed it doesn't flood and improves the vaping experience .
 

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I am with you this is why in my video I tell people to leave the coil up off the bed it doesn't flood and improves the vaping experience .

Yep. That's exactly where I got the idea from :). I think by nature, we think its best to get the wick as close to that hole as possible, but like you said in the video, leaving space is better. Much better!
 

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Yep. That's exactly where I got the idea from :). I think by nature, we think its best to get the wick as close to that hole as possible, but like you said in the video, leaving space is better. Much better!

Thanks. I was using my common sense and doing it the opposite, which may have been "unREOlistic" in this case.

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Since this is my first RBA and first micro-coil and first cotton wick I just realized I don't know when I'm supposed to change out the wick, the wick and coil or whatever. What are the tells? The RBA is using more juice so I'm not sure of my new juice consumption rate, but I'd estimate 2-3ml per day. What kind of life should I expect? A week?
 

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Since this is my first RBA and first micro-coil and first cotton wick I just realized I don't know when I'm supposed to change out the wick, the wick and coil or whatever. What are the tells? The RBA is using more juice so I'm not sure of my new juice consumption rate, but I'd estimate 2-3ml per day. What kind of life should I expect? A week?

You can re-use your coil as long as it keeps it's "integrity" and you can slide a new cotton wick in there. How long the cotton wick lasts depends on a lot of factors like how dark your juice is (shorter lifespan of wick), your vaping habits and obviously if you don't keep it "primed" it's going to burn and you will need a new wick.

Plus, sometimes I make coils that aren't that uniform and a few wraps will burn hotter than others and I think that shortens the life of the cotton wick.

I only get a few days out of my wicks at most, but I'm a heavy vaper and don't worry too much because I usually build "sidewinder" coil wraps so I just slide more cotton wick in the coil and prime it and keep on trucking.

Hope this helps,

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Since this is my first RBA and first micro-coil and first cotton wick I just realized I don't know when I'm supposed to change out the wick, the wick and coil or whatever. What are the tells? The RBA is using more juice so I'm not sure of my new juice consumption rate, but I'd estimate 2-3ml per day. What kind of life should I expect? A week?

What kind of juice do you use? With unflavored nic base, the coil will stay clean. It will last for weeks. I change em cause i want to, not cause they fail. I usually change the wick after about 4 days, not for any reason but I just want to. I have never had a coil fail or wick burn.

I am going to start to rotate my RBA's every week or so, so I can break em down and rinse em out and put a clean, fresh one on in the mean time. I'm thinking that a lot of dust / pollen and particulates must get sucked in during the course of a week?
 

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My 100 feet is supposed to be in on Friday, and I'm going to HAVE to try the flat now!

THANKS, guys!


Sigh. Could someone PLEASE post a link to it? Thanks.

I don't have a link handy here at work... you should be able to search eBay for "Kanthal Ribbon" and find it though. It's pretty remarkable!

EDIT: These guys just started selling ribbon wire... I haven't used them myself, so caveat emptor!

http://themeshcompany.com/acatalog/25-micron-super-fine-mesh.html#aKANRIB41_2d50
 
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I don't have a link handy here at work... you should be able to search eBay for "Kanthal Ribbon" and find it though. It's pretty remarkable!

EDIT: These guys just started selling ribbon wire... I haven't used them myself, so caveat emptor!

The Mesh Company (Warrington) Ltd #400 & #500 Super Fine E-Cig Wicking Mesh - 25 Micron & Atomizer Wire


Right. But there's different types of ribbon wire, and just want to make sure I get the 'correct' one. Do you suggest the .4 or .5 mm?

Seeing a couple of good deals from a vendor in Greece. Do you suggest .3 or .5 mm? I'm thinking .3 would be easier to get in the post holes...
 
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Right. But there's different types of ribbon wire, and just want to make sure I get the 'correct' one. Do you suggest the .4 or .5 mm?

To be perfectly honest, I don't remember which I got... I think it was .5, but I'm not sure. I'll check when I get home tonight, but that's going to be late. You can probably find some expert opinions around here somewhere.

It was a little more difficult to work with, and a little more difficult to get through the post holes, but definitely not impossible. Worth the effort!
 

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Think I'll wait until you get home, since you have a Reomizer2, and presumably posters in other threads don't.

Reason being that if it's .4 being difficult, .5 will be impossible. Thanks for your help.

And my quick research shows that the thinner the ribbon, the higher the resistance. Some folks are saying that the resistance in .5 mm is too low for HV/VV/VW

.5 mm is for 3.7 v vaping
.3 mm is for HV/VV/VW.

Thinking a .4 would be a safe, all around bet. But I'll wait to see what you KNOW will fit in the reomizer.
 
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Think I'll wait until you get home, since you have a Reomizer2, and presumably posters in other threads don't.

Reason being that if it's .4 being difficult, .5 will be impossible. Thanks for your help.

And my quick research shows that the thinner the ribbon, the higher the resistance. Some folks are saying that the resistance in .5 mm is too low for HV/VV/VW

.5 mm is for 3.7 v vaping
.3 mm is for HV/VV/VW.

Thinking a .4 would be a safe, all around bet. But I'll wait to see what you KNOW will fit in the reomizer.


I just called my wife and had her look at the spool... I think you'll be fine with either .4 or .5. The stuff I got is .8mm (!)

And I was still able to cram it through the RM2.0 posts. :D
 
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