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I have a tad bit different question if you guys don't mind. My history with rba is the 1st one that came out. Got it at Liberty Flights for cheap and finally managed to put together a kinda-coil, at least it fired. It was a terrible vape ( I'm sure bacause of my wrap ) but I still vaped it and I noticed it was like sucking air/ no resistance.
A couple things I like from the atty's and carto's I use is every now and then, I get this crackle and slight pop with a little resistance as I'm drawing. Actually, I LOVE THAT! Do you get any of that from the REOMIZER 2.

edit> or the type of coil you use?

I'm new to the whole game but my suspicion is that things have changed a lot since that rba. I believe the answer to your question is yes, there is definitely some crackling and popping going on. Luckily I have been able to avoid the snap.

My suggestion, get a RM2. It's so easy a cave man (and super_X) can do it! :)
 

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Talked to Sterno this morning, and he just received the kanthal ribbon boilednuts mailed to send to the Re(o)gional meet this weekend. Sterno reports he can't tell a difference vaping between it and regular kanthal wire.

Dang. I already ordered some too :(. Oh well, that's what the classies are for right? I may fiddle with it some though just so I can get the Tshirt. Round wire has been off the chain for me, but, like any hobby, I always try to push the envelope.

I still see myself lacerating the hell out if my fingers working with what looks like razor wire - any reports on that yet?
 

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Dang. I already ordered some too :(. Oh well, that's what the classies are for right? I may fiddle with it some though just so I can get the Tshirt. Round wire has been off the chain for me, but, like any hobby, I always try to push the envelope.

I still see myself lacerating the hell out if my fingers working with what looks like razor wire - any reports on that yet?

I've used it 4 or 5 times so far with no injuries...so far!
 

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I'm sure it depends on the person. That's one of the reasons I'm not trying it yet. Not only do I love my big spool of 30ga wire, but I'm also concerned about further loss of digits. I like my digits, I use them for vaping


I love other things, too.


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Talked to Sterno this morning, and he just received the kanthal ribbon boilednuts mailed to send to the Re(o)gional meet this weekend. Sterno reports he can't tell a difference vaping between it and regular kanthal wire.

Dang. I already ordered some too :(. Oh well, that's what the classies are for right? I may fiddle with it some though just so I can get the Tshirt. Round wire has been off the chain for me, but, like any hobby, I always try to push the envelope.

I still see myself lacerating the hell out if my fingers working with what looks like razor wire - any reports on that yet?

I'm sure it depends on the person. That's one of the reasons I'm not trying it yet. Not only do I love my big spool of 30ga wire, but I'm also concerned about further loss of digits. I like my digits, I use them for vaping

First off about fears of the wire cutting you. I've put it in between my thumb and finger and squeezed all I got and barely noticed it. I also tried running it against my arm as fast and hard as the wire would allow and same result. I can see you lassoing a runaway dog and it may cause damage but building a coil will have no problems. :)

I'd be really interested in seeing Scotts build with the ribbon wire. I found that larger diameters (using 1/8" i.d. here, I consider small) and big gaps between wraps will nut give you and outstanding vape. My wraps look like their touching but under magnification actually there are separated by small little gaps. Never went smaller than 1/8" diameters so hopefully Russ can explore this more. I know Scott likes silica wicks, tried that on larger coils (doubled up the silica) and it saturates slower than cotton balls and mutes the taste for me. Tried different sourced silica but it hasn't come close to cotton imho. Really wanted it to work for me because it lasts so much longer than cotton. :(. I've also noticed that short legs on the wicks will give ya limited vapes per squonk, like having an oil burning lamp with the wick out of the oil.....flame goes out, shake the bottle, relight wick. Like I've already mentioned the RM2 is a godsend, give a really big squonk the cotton absorbs the juice quickly and the excess juice flows right back in the bottle. Clyde, this maybe a limitation on ss mesh unless oxidizing first so as to make a long wick and hopefully nut shorting out (btw, how long does a ss mesh last?).

The only problems I've had with cotton is that it has a short lifespan although I'm a very heavy chain vaper so YMMV. I must go through about 8-10ml of juice a day. The vape being so flavorful I can immediately recognize when its time to rewick. I will try and build a coil about 2.0 ohms and see if the cotton lasts longer but for now I'm getting only a day of really good vaping when using it. Through your experimentation Russ, it seems higher resistance lowers coil temps, which may prolong cotton wick life. Oh almost forgot a big no no. Too tight of a wrap around the cotton will effectively strangle the cottons ability to absorb juice. You'll get weak vapor and poor flavor :facepalm:

My ribbon is 0.6mm x 0.1mm so surface contact over round wire is greater and being only 0.1mm thick I think helps heat the wire faster when hitting the button. Russ, the wire you ordered is 0.07mm thick so gonna be watching this closely. Like I said earlier, the more resistive wire may lower temps hopefully extending cotton life. Dunno how it'll affect the juice I use as that may also be a factor in all of this. The wire I use is pretty darn close to 30 gage Kanthal resistance wise but because its flat and having more surface contact the effect I believe is like using a heavier gage round wire with equivalent surface contact, perhaps in my case (guessing here) like using 24-26 gage round wire.

That's it guys about as much as I've found out about ribbon wire. I'll post updates as they become available. :)
 

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I always wrap my coils when I'm in the nude and use a certain appendage as a coil mold... of course my RBA is the size of a '56 Buick. (Vapor production is amazing, kinda like a mosquito fogging truck.)


Jack

Truly laughing my ... off. I'm so glad to see that I'm not alone down here ! Rock on Jack!
 

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First off about fears of the wire cutting you. I've put it in between my thumb and finger and squeezed all I got and barely noticed it. I also tried running it against my arm as fast and hard as the wire would allow and same result. I can see you lassoing a runaway dog and it may cause damage but building a coil will have no problems. :)

I'd be really interested in seeing Scotts build with the ribbon wire. I found that larger diameters (using 1/8" i.d. here, I consider small) and big gaps between wraps will nut give you and outstanding vape. My wraps look like their touching but under magnification actually there are separated by small little gaps. Never went smaller than 1/8" diameters so hopefully Russ can explore this more. I know Scott likes silica wicks, tried that on larger coils (doubled up the silica) and it saturates slower than cotton balls and mutes the taste for me. Tried different sourced silica but it hasn't come close to cotton imho. Really wanted it to work for me because it lasts so much longer than cotton. :(. I've also noticed that short legs on the wicks will give ya limited vapes per squonk, like having an oil burning lamp with the wick out of the oil.....flame goes out, shake the bottle, relight wick. Like I've already mentioned the RM2 is a godsend, give a really big squonk the cotton absorbs the juice quickly and the excess juice flows right back in the bottle. Clyde, this maybe a limitation on ss mesh unless oxidizing first so as to make a long wick and hopefully nut shorting out (btw, how long does a ss mesh last?).

The only problems I've had with cotton is that it has a short lifespan although I'm a very heavy chain vaper so YMMV. I must go through about 8-10ml of juice a day. The vape being so flavorful I can immediately recognize when its time to rewick. I will try and build a coil about 2.0 ohms and see if the cotton lasts longer but for now I'm getting only a day of really good vaping when using it. Through your experimentation Russ, it seems higher resistance lowers coil temps, which may prolong cotton wick life. Oh almost forgot a big no no. Too tight of a wrap around the cotton will effectively strangle the cottons ability to absorb juice. You'll get weak vapor and poor flavor :facepalm:

My ribbon is 0.6mm x 0.1mm so surface contact over round wire is greater and being only 0.1mm thick I think helps heat the wire faster when hitting the button. Russ, the wire you ordered is 0.07mm thick so gonna be watching this closely. Like I said earlier, the more resistive wire may lower temps hopefully extending cotton life. Dunno how it'll affect the juice I use as that may also be a factor in all of this. The wire I use is pretty darn close to 30 gage Kanthal resistance wise but because its flat and having more surface contact the effect I believe is like using a heavier gage round wire with equivalent surface contact, perhaps in my case (guessing here) like using 24-26 gage round wire.

That's it guys about as much as I've found out about ribbon wire. I'll post updates as they become available. :)

Thursday is when my flat stock should arrive. I am anxiously awaiting another toy to play with. Thanks for all of the insight on the wire schwartzenutzer. I find it very helpful.
 

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I always wrap my coils when I'm in the nude and use a certain appendage as a coil mold... of course my RBA is the size of a '56 Buick. (Vapor production is amazing, kinda like a mosquito fogging truck.)


Jack

I'm thinking that mosquito fog be a better option to inhale :facepalm:
 

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Thursday is when my flat stock should arrive. I am anxiously awaiting another toy to play with. Thanks for all of the insight on the wire schwartzenutzer. I find it very helpful.

You're welcome superXrated :laugh:. If the wire doesn't work out for ya.....give me first dibs on buying it :)
 

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You're welcome superXrated :laugh:. If the wire doesn't work out for ya.....give me first dibs on buying it :)

That's a big 10-4 my man. Do you think that the flat wire holds its shape good? From what I understand, based on your posts, it appears that what I ordered is slightly thinner than yours? Is that a good thing ya think?
 

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That's a big 10-4 my man. Do you think that the flat wire holds its shape good? From what I understand, based on your posts, it appears that what I ordered is slightly thinner than yours? Is that a good thing ya think?

I've tried only two types of ribbon, both are 0.1mm thick so couldn't answer about holding its shape. I know that mine does so, extremely well. Another I don't know is it about being a good thing. Like I said in my prior post a higher resistance may produce cooler coil temps reducing burning/charring of the cotton wick leading to longer life. So far i haven't fussed with anything higher than 1.5 ohms with the ribbon wire but the wire you ordered I think would werk better when going higher. One of your posts mentioned that at the higher range there is less sizzle when vaping. I think this is because of lower coil wire temps. The sizzling imho is the juice being "over vaporized" if there is such a thing, so you're getting good vapor production, maybe throat hit but flavor will nut be maximized. I don't necessarily mind the sizzle, it informs me that the juice is available to the coil wire but keep wondering if less would boost flavor.

Its a game of give and takes, you gotta run with whats important to you without sacrificing too much of the rest of it. A perfect vape may nut be possible but thats nut to say that we can't improve upon our present vape. Who knows one day a wick may become available that has the properties of cotton balls, fire ......ant and safe to vape. I can dream can't I??

Got my #500 mesh a few minutes ago but no time to do any testing before going to my house inspection. I want to try an extra long piece to hold plenty of juice. It has to be oxidized first because the legs be touching the posts and floor walls of the atty. I haven't done this before but plan to use a multimeter to make sure that the mesh is "short proof" before using. If I'm able to do this it just might be the holy grail I've been searching for. Nut everyone's end all but for me it just might be. Maybe doing a wire mesh Bar-B-Que tonight, luckily my Weber has a propane fire starter to light the charcoal :). Clyde you up for some step by step instructions? Soak in VG then burn about 4 times is all I know. Do I need to cool (how long) in between those 4 flameouts??
 

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I've tried only two types of ribbon, both are 0.1mm thick so couldn't answer about holding its shape. I know that mine does so, extremely well. Another I don't know is it about being a good thing. Like I said in my prior post a higher resistance may produce cooler coil temps reducing burning/charring of the cotton wick leading to longer life. So far i haven't fussed with anything higher than 1.5 ohms with the ribbon wire but the wire you ordered I think would werk better when going higher. One of your posts mentioned that at the higher range there is less sizzle when vaping. I think this is because of lower coil wire temps. The sizzling imho is the juice being "over vaporized" if there is such a thing, so you're getting good vapor production, maybe throat hit but flavor will nut be maximized. I don't necessarily mind the sizzle, it informs me that the juice is available to the coil wire but keep wondering if less would boost flavor.

Its a game of give and takes, you gotta run with whats important to you without sacrificing too much of the rest of it. A perfect vape may nut be possible but thats nut to say that we can't improve upon our present vape. Who knows one day a wick may become available that has the properties of cotton balls, fire ......ant and safe to vape. I can dream can't I??

Got my #500 mesh a few minutes ago but no time to do any testing before going to my house inspection. I want to try an extra long piece to hold plenty of juice. It has to be oxidized first because the legs be touching the posts and floor walls of the atty. I haven't done this before but plan to use a multimeter to make sure that the mesh is "short proof" before using. If I'm able to do this it just might be the holy grail I've been searching for. Nut everyone's end all but for me it just might be. Maybe doing a wire mesh Bar-B-Que tonight, luckily my Weber has a propane fire starter to light the charcoal :). Clyde you up for some step by step instructions? Soak in VG then burn about 4 times is all I know. Do I need to cool (how long) in between those 4 flameouts??

Brother thank you for these downloads. I go into this flat wire battle armed with plenty of helpful info. Gracias señor Nutz.
 

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Nutz:

Cut a piece of mesh approximately the size you're going to use to build your wick. Break out the ole flamethrower and heat the mesh till it glows red, (real men hold it with their fingers... you'll want to use a pair of pliers), quench in a cup of water. Repeat this at least 3 times.

Although it's not really necessary you can then coat it with some PG, VG, or any old e-juice you have laying around then light it and let it burn off. Boom, you're done.

(The whole process is pretty much like hot forming a horseshoe, except for the burning VG part... horses don't vape.)


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Nutz:

Cut a piece of mesh approximately the size you're going to use to build your wick. Break out the ole flamethrower and heat the mesh till it glows red, (real men hold it with their fingers... you'll want to use a pair of pliers), quench in a cup of water. Repeat this at least 3 times.

Although it's not really necessary you can then coat it with some PG, VG, or any old e-juice you have laying around then light it and let it burn off. Boom, you're done.

(The whole process is pretty much like hot forming a horseshoe, except for the burning VG part... horses don't vape.)


Jack

Thank you sir!!
 

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Sparse micro coil, cotton ball wick. 1.9 ohm -- still lots of vapor and flavor. Wick survived 6ml of juice, and could have gone more, but I felt the urge to try something else.

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I always wrap my coils when I'm in the nude and use a certain appendage as a coil mold... of course my RBA is the size of a '56 Buick. (Vapor production is amazing, kinda like a mosquito fogging truck.)


Jack


The microcoil thread is that way ----> :lol:

You forgot to mention the Buick is a HotWheels. :D
 
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