I can't speak to others' experiences, but I've found the ribbon wire indisputably gives me coils that produce far more vapor. There's an obvious difference. Maybe I see it more because I'm using the monster .8mm stuff? Dunno.
RM2 Wick & Coil Setups
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I think you use cotton wicks, right? Thats what I wanna try is a coil that spans from post to post minimum. What diameter coils are you wrapping and at what resistance? 0.8mm, that sounds like a beast
I think you use cotton wicks, right? Thats what I wanna try is a coil that spans from post to post minimum. What diameter coils are you wrapping and at what resistance? 0.8mm, that sounds like a beast
I've been using cotton with the ribbon wire, yes. I haven't tried a super small diameter coil yet, I've only wrapped three, and I did them all around a toothpick. My first was between 0.8Ω and 0.9Ω, second was 1.24Ω, and my current one is about 1Ω on the money. The first one was a vapor monster, but a little too warm for my taste, second one was great, but a little lighter on the clouds... this one seems about perfect.
Heres a coil made out of Kanthal A Ribbon. It is 1.75. My goal was to make a coil that spanned from hole to hole. I havent vaped it yet - the wick is saturating a little before I fire it up.
Meh, so far, no advantage over round wire vape wise. I prefer to wrap with 30ga round because it holds its shape much better. This ribbon is like working with stiff tinsel for a Christmas tree. It also deflects much more than the round wire during pre wrap torching.
Coil is a flimsier on the posts than with round wire - fragile, as in - It will definitely deform easy. I also believe that rewicking will be a challenge with the small diameter coils I run.
Overall opinion: nice to have it to fiddle around with but don't see any advantages over 30 ga Kanthal A1 for my specific vaping situation (yet).
Round wire is so good, it would be hard to improve on the results in a bottom fed RBA IMO.
But now I have the ribbon Tshirt
Meh, so far, no advantage over round wire vape wise. I prefer to wrap with 30ga round because it holds its shape much better. This ribbon is like working with stiff tinsel for a Christmas tree. It also deflects much more than the round wire during pre wrap torching.
Coil is a flimsier on the posts than with round wire - fragile, as in - It will definitely deform easy. I also believe that rewicking will be a challenge with the small diameter coils I run.
Overall opinion: nice to have it to fiddle around with but don't see any advantages over 30 ga Kanthal A1 for my specific vaping situation (yet).
Round wire is so good, it would be hard to improve on the results in a bottom fed RBA IMO.
But now I have the ribbon Tshirt
I'm thinking the micro-coil diameter might be limiting the amount of juice you're getting to all that expanded coil surface area due to the lack of wicking material that can fit in such a small space. You might want to try a larger coil to see if you notice a difference.
I can't really be the only one who sees an obvious advantage to this ribbon Kanthal, can I?!
I'm thinking the micro-coil diameter might be limiting the amount of juice you're getting to all that expanded coil surface area due to the lack of wicking material that can fit in such a small space. You might want to try a larger coil to see if you notice a difference.
I can't really be the only one who sees an obvious advantage to this ribbon Kanthal, can I?!
Good idea Plaz. I will try a larger diameter coil next. My biggest complaint is how delicate the coil is. Perhaps it'd be less flimsy with .1mm ribbon? I'm using .07mm.
Meh, so far, no advantage over round wire vape wise. I prefer to wrap with 30ga round because it holds its shape much better. This ribbon is like working with stiff tinsel for a Christmas tree. It also deflects much more than the round wire during pre wrap torching.
Coil is a flimsier on the posts than with round wire - fragile, as in - It will definitely deform easy. I also believe that rewicking will be a challenge with the small diameter coils I run.
Overall opinion: nice to have it to fiddle around with but don't see any advantages over 30 ga Kanthal A1 for my specific vaping situation (yet).
Round wire is so good, it would be hard to improve on the results in a bottom fed RBA IMO.
But now I have the ribbon Tshirt
Yeah the 0.07 is 30% thinner than the 0.1 so a long narrow tube may nut werk so well as far as keeping its form. Dunno how you got that wick in there Russ
. I also didn't like the higher resistance but could be because of the coil size. I 'd also would have wanted to see more wicking material too (I'll post a tip in the ss mesh thread by Larryper shortly).I'm thinking the micro-coil diameter might be limiting the amount of juice you're getting to all that expanded coil surface area due to the lack of wicking material that can fit in such a small space. You might want to try a larger coil to see if you notice a difference.
I can't really be the only one who sees an obvious advantage to this ribbon Kanthal, can I?!
+1 Bro. Tried a smaller diameter (<1/8") coil yesterday using 0.5mm ribbon and had poor results. I like the 0.6 ribbon for easier wrapping too. Thinking 0.7-0.8 is the bees knees, could you repost that pic of your coil once again or where it was posted, too many threads about coils to search.
Exactly what I thought at first, but found otherwise. Actually only if the wraps are overlapped maybe lower performance would be true, imho. I also could never get my waps actually touching to form like a solid tube, nut sure if all ribbon wire are like this though.
Hey Plaz thanks for the pic. I really like that post to post coil setup you got and the low resistance but recall you saying that the the 0.8mm wire a bit difficult in going through the holes. I imagine it would need almost perfect entry angle getting it through them. Possibly holes are only 1mm diameter. Also noticed that one leg of yer wick legs headed towards the fill hole, was this on purpose and does it perform as well if it cleared the hole?
My eyesight (even with my glasses) is not good enough to know how much clearance was left... by touch, it felt like it was *just* making it through, but it didn't deform or anything. I did intentionally have some wick by the fill hole, but it's not stuffed in there or anything. It seemed to drain perfectly well, and it definitely wicked perfectly well.
How are you guys getting a "fluffy" wick tail on either side of a coil? I've been using cotton for a week or so now, and I always end up kind of making a cotton "wedge" where I have an increasingly narrow piece of cotton that I make a point out of on one side, then pull it through by the twisted point once I get it through. I end up just stopping when I feel any resistance, then snipping the fat end at various lengths.
Am I doing something wrong?
Am I doing something wrong?
Just cut the point off and fluff it with your tweezers
You can also leave some of it just slightly rolled on the end opposite your point and pull it all the way thru. You are correct - not too much resistance.
Glorious noob mistake: I got this needle and syringe for DIY from some vendor I'm currently drawing a blank on, and I guess they never heard of blunt tips cause this one was a legit hypodermic needle. While trying to wrap a super_X_coil I realized this could prove to be a problem and tried cutting the needle tip with the dullest pliers on the planet. Now I have this pretty coil I really wanna try and not ruin but no way of getting it out of this now-warped needle tip
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Glorious noob mistake: I got this needle and syringe for DIY from some vendor I'm currently drawing a blank on, and I guess they never heard of blunt tips cause this one was a legit hypodermic needle. While trying to wrap a super_X_coil I realized this could prove to be a problem and tried cutting the needle tip with the dullest pliers on the planet. Now I have this pretty coil I really wanna try and not ruin but no way of getting it out of this now-warped needle tip
Dang, that does suck. That blunt tip 14 gauge I got from Wizard Labs is my new favorite tool. The needle top bottle cap is too small IMO. But I had to try it
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