RM3 Specs and Breakdown

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Thanks for the thread links. Interesting comments on the RM3.

Managed to see a couple photos, but would love to see more. From what I can tell, it has a deep well. That's a likeable addition because it would hold more juice. However, the coil would sit higher as well.

So, if anyone that has the RM3 has the time, ...it would be greatly appreciated if you could post some close ups of the squonk hole (or holes); juice well; bottom of the center pin that connects to the 510; and just overall pictures of wick saturated with juice.
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Went over to a buddies house to hang out for awhile. He has so much vape gear he could start a yard sale. Found what I believe to be an A6 that he's not using anymore (looks like the pictures I've pulled up). Only difference is... it doesn't have philips screws. It has thumb screws instead. Oh well. It appears to be an A6.

Looks like I get experiment and have some fun tonight while most of you are sleeping. I do 3rd shift this weekend anyway, and gotta stay up all night, or I'll be dead on my feet tomorrow night. So, let's get to it.
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Sorry Ed, but I haven't the time to post a pic yet. (Actually a bit intimidated with the new format and haven't tried it yet). The juice hole on mine seems to be right in the middle. Next time I re-coil, I'll take a real good look.

Am looking forward to what you find. I really like mine (single coil). Easy as RM2 to work on. Outstandig flavor. My only minor "issue" is the occasional seeping from the base (not the cap). Not a big deal. Certainly could be my technique. I really tighten it down well too.

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The new format is easy peasy to load photos. It's really easier than the previous format. Shows the full size of the picture as well.

I was not able to disassemble the A6 like I wanted to. Was afraid I'd mess it up. However, I was able to drill the center pin out with a 3/64 drill bit with no problems (it's nickel plated brass). Also, I drilled two juice holes where the coils go (used a smaller #56 drill bit for those). It wicks really fast, and drains good. Because the well bowl is deep and small, the coil sits higher; but however, the size is an advantage because it helps push juice on the coil. Remaining juice drains back into the bottle with no problems.

The stock air hole was very tiny, and a little too tight, so I used the #56 bit to expand the air hole. Putting a coil on it is a little tricky. The deck is very small, but it's manageable. Just have to be very careful to not cause a hard short. I did put the top cap on after coiling it and checked it on an Ohm meter to verify it wasn't shorting. Even checked inside it with a flashlight to make sure it wasn't touching anything. This part is the most crucial part because it's a little more compact than the RM2.

Overall, it was worth the effort. The RM3 stings like a Hornet!! The flavor and taste is just as good as the RM2. I like the top cap and O'rings. It has its advantages and disadvantages. Taking it off is a cinch, but my only concern is it moving around, or perhaps coming off while in my jacket pocket. Never had to worry about that with the RM2 since it screws on.

Since I'm a single coiler, I will use both the RM2 and RM3. Both deliver the best flavor and taste of any atomizer I've used.

I'll post some pictures of what I did when I'm off work, and have more time.
 
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You give me courage Ed, to post some pics!

Thank you for your great write up. Makes me wonder if drilling another juice hole might help with drainage/seepage?...... Hmmmmm...... Cause it sure seems that mine is pretty much near the pin and not on any easily detectable side like my RM2's. Hmmmm...(me pondering).

Since I purchased mine from Reos, I could always ask Rob about it too....

Am on my way to work but will check in as time permits.

Rest easy today. (I've done my share of night shifts)
 
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I recommend sending it to Rob if you want another juice hole added. He has all the precision tools to do the job perfectly. I do believe having two juice holes makes it easier to squonk, and makes drainage better.

Will most likely get around to the doing pictures on Monday. I'm using it right now, and will have to clean it up for the pics. So far, I'm really liking the RM3. It's a BEAST!! Getting outstanding flavor, taste, and TH. I cough a little more with the RM3 because it's so powerful.

After using it last couple of days, I would have to do these ratings:
RM2 = 9.90
RM3 = 10.0
 

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So it was spa day for the RM3 and beloved, yet "well-loved" Mini. Took a few pictures (not bragging here as my photography skills are not great. Was unable to post some as they were deemed too large to import).
Anyway, what I am very clear about is that the juice hole is on the edge of the middle screw base. (In line with the next screw but inside the black circle surrounding the post). In other words, there is no discernible extra hole. Hope that makes sense. I can explain more if it doesn't. Good day! Back to squonking....
 
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So it was spa day for the RM3 and beloved, yet "well-loved" Mini. Took a few pictures (not bragging here as my photography skills are not great. Was unable to post some as they were deemed too large to import).
Anyway, what I am very clear about is that the juice hole is on the edge of the middle screw base. (In line with the next screw but inside the black circle surrounding the post). In other words, there is no discernible extra hole. Hope that makes sense. I can explain more if it doesn't. Good day! Back to squonking....

Took your picture and adjusted the lighting so I could see more about the juice hole. From looking at the pics, the juice is dispersing against that one negative post (left in the picture). Using that Negative post would render the best wicking for a single coil build. The coil would be right above the juice hole.

However, If you're using Dual coils, adding another juice hole on the other side of the Center Post (at a 90 degree angle and in line with that one juice hole) would disperse juice to that coil.

Rob put one juice hole for a single coil. It's up to you if you want another on the other side. I only did mine as an experiment. Wasn't sure if it would work, or how it would turn out, but I'll load pictures sometimes on Monday to show you how it looks.

Rob could definitely do a much better job because he has more knowledge, experience, and has the proper tools.
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Nice job with the picture Ed! (You know what you're doing). If I'm not mistaken, I think I saw juice coming up on the other side of that post. (It was one of the pics that was too big to load). There's a 50/50 chance I'm wrong though. I'll re-wick soon and check it out. I concur that this atty has a deep well for sure.
I really appreciate your expertise. Looking forward to more pictures.
 
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Rob only drills one joose hole, on one side of the positive post facing a negative post. Drilled on both sides could greatly weaken the integrity of the positive post, maybe enough that a button masher could do it in installing a coil. Personally I don't see it as a problem for dual coil builds at all. A squonk will flow to both sides of the decks well and easily get to wick tails on either side. I wouldn't over-fill the deck with excess wick so it will still drain well though. :2c:
 

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I see what you're saying Spyd. Getting the holes to big would definitely weaken the post... especially if you're using thicker gauge wire. The post seems to be strong though. I'll only be using 28g @ 1.1ohm. I won't be Sub-Ohming at all, nor Dual coiling.

Pic #1 - Used a #56 drill bit for the juice hole. Although the coil is on the other side (Pic 2), this is the side I'll be using for a Single Coil. I did not remove or dissemble in fear of breaking it. Since the well bowl is deep, I drilled on both sides of the Center Pin at an angle. It was one big PITA I might add.
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Pic #2 - Used a #56 drill bit for this juice hole as well. This side saturates the wick tail that comes around the post - that is if you like a tad bit longer tail.
(Just ignore the coil on this side. It will be on the other side in future builds).
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Pic #3 - Used a 3/64 drill bit to drill through Center Pin, and drilled it again with a 1/16 to make it bigger for more juice.
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... After all this, I learned one thing. Leave the modding up to Rob since he has precision tools to do more of a professional job.
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Great job Ed with your pictures and explanations. What camera or app do you use?

Now I can understand why Rob drills the juice hole horizontal to the post line. It would seem that one could build on either side (for singles) or run duals. (Guess it's not his first rodeo).

I got my first Reo 2 years ago and I'm still having a marvelous time learning. I'm not super handy, so I need all the tutorials I can get.

When you wick it up, can you post another picture?
 
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Used my cell phone (Samsung Galaxy S3), and ACDSee to edit with.
Yes, I'll post another pic when it has CelluCotton in it. There's not to much room to work with on that one side though. That's the one negative about the RM3. But I'm gonna try spinning the Center Post around so the wire hole will be facing the side. I'm gonna try sliding the coil over towards the center to allow room for wicking on that lonesome side.
 
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Used my cell phone (Samsung Galaxy S3), and ACDSee to edit with.
Yes, I'll post another pic when it has CelluCotton in it. There's not to much room to work with on that one side though. That's the one negative about the RM3. But I'm gonna try spinning the Center Post around so the wire hole will be facing the side. I'm gonna try sliding the coil over towards the center to allow room for wicking on that lonesome side.

Great! I've got an IPhone but I bet there's some editing function I can get to know or perhaps an app for editing teeny tiny things. (Note to self).
I too am really liking the cellucotton for quite a while these days. It's almost impossible to go wrong as long as I use lots (not as in length but in width that is).

A side note: I went super micro coils "back in the day" but have returned to using 2.5 over the last bunch of months. Yes, the coils are a bit bigger on a small work space but I seem to have found my sweet spot on both the RM3 and 2 and IGO-S around 1.1-1.3 with 5/6/7 with 28 ga. What are you using?
 
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