With a 3 amp limit, not the 5 amps originally mentioned earlier in this thread.
http://www.vaporbeast.com/The_VARIO_Advanced_Personal_Vaporizer_p/sk27.htm
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Ruyan IMotion2 - another ProVari clone.
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http://www.vaporbeast.com/The_VARIO_Advanced_Personal_Vaporizer_p/sk27.htm
These are specs from an English vendor;
Still looks like it should come with a tube of KY jelly to me.
Still looks like it should come with a tube of KY jelly to me.
The Modder got in contact with me and he said I should be receiving it this week! Germany is a long way from us here in the U.S. and can't wait for it to be in my hands!
Nice "big" mod.....Specs look "normal" for what we use nowadays, PWM is going to be the future of vaping as it seems to be around every VV we encounter.
Just one problem: see some pics here and on the site mentioned but where is the button?? Not one picture has the button, is it really there???
Just one problem: see some pics here and on the site mentioned but where is the button?? Not one picture has the button, is it really there???
PWM, as implemented on a number of VV mods is a big problem for low wattage vapers. Just saying. I think it's a marketing mistake.
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The button is hard to spot, but it's opposite the digital display on the silver cap portion.
You can see the button in the third photo in DirkBongo's opening post of the thread.
Very interested in hearing reviews in this, sort of looks like a larger chameleon mod and vmax together? Idk, what the price going to be?
U got one coming huh Freddie?? Guess I should have guessed that, lol! Can't wait to hear what u think
U got one coming huh Freddie?? Guess I should have guessed that, lol! Can't wait to hear what u think
And YOU know this little sister! Like I said though, it's a shame that China already cloned it, but the QUALITY will be WAAAAAY less than the E-52! German Modders put out really good quality!Very interested in hearing reviews in this, sort of looks like a larger chameleon mod and vmax together? Idk, what the price going to be?
U got one coming huh Freddie?? Guess I should have guessed that, lol! Can't wait to hear what u think
cozzicon,
You're one of my go-to tech-savvy "reality" sources. No hyped BS from you, which I really like.
Your post implies---and I agree---that the problem is in the implementation of PWM, not simply the mere fact that PWM. I'm not an engineer or a tech geek, but I've learned that numerous variables influence PWM's end result---for example, filtered vs. unfiltered output. No doubt other factors come into play as well. I saw a video about PWM showing "nano-spikes" at the beginning of each micro-pulse that can be much higher than the voltage of the on-pulse itself. Could those be a factor in the Vmax (and Ovale V8) seeming to hit so much harder at low voltage settings?
If so, then that nano-spike is surely an engineering choice---and one I personally don't approve of. I want vaping at 3.7 volts to feel like 3.7 volts consistently across all devices, and I'm not thrilled that I have to compensate on the Vmax and Ovale V8 because the voltage settings feel skewed toward more power.
You do know that ProVari uses PWM, right? I'm just guessing here, but perhaps PWM makes the whole business of voltage regulation easier for the software engineers to achieve, in terms of maintaining voltage in different ways: 1. during the hit, 2. over successive hits (from one hit to the next), and 3. as the battery drains to the level of providing only marginal current.
Can you link us to the forum thread about it?The Modder got in contact with me and he said I should be receiving it this week! Germany is a long way from us here in the U.S. and can't wait for it to be in my hands!
Pete Busardo showed the duty cycle on the VV Gripper at 3 volts, the vmax was 6.28 volts for 48% of the cycle. The volt average is still 3 volts but you're still getting a high enough percentage of the highest peak to give you that extra whack that you get with Smok PWM mods. I think the Vmax has an even higher vmax if you know what I mean.
It's intentionally different from the ProVari and I give them kudos for it even though I'm not crazy about it myself - I don't always vape at high voltage and it makes for a hot vape.
This gets a little tricky. But any boost regulator puts out pulsed DC (And then it's filtered to get actual DC). If you hook a Provari to a scope- it is DC. If you are analyzing the boost circuit, it puts out pulsed DC- but the atomizer does not see pulsed current.
The newish PWM VV mods, adjust the energy delivered to the atty, by a combination of pulse and duty cycle. Larger pulse/longer pulse duration means more wattage delivered. But the *voltage reading* on the unit is not accurate- therefor 3.0 volts feels like 3.7 or more. It's a programming issue really.
I think this is the manufacturer - doesn't look like it's Ruyan(which wouldn't have been a bad thing) it does state it has a 5 amp limit as opposed to 3;
IMotion2 V+
notice the message at the bottom of the page which parrots Smoktech's new and stupid policy on pricing;
At that price they can stick it.
IMotion2 V+
notice the message at the bottom of the page which parrots Smoktech's new and stupid policy on pricing;
At that price they can stick it.
It's $80 from Vaporbeast. I confirmed that in a rather lengthy phone conversation with Vaporbeast's owner, Tim Campbell. Ignore all the bad talk about the problems of "review models" of the Imotion2 V+ - this is the Vario, an evolution of that particular tube mod. It was very recently sent to Tim and he rejected it. The release date will be pushed back while the manufacturer addresses those issues.
A lot of talk has been made, but none of them seem to recognize that Tim doesn't release it if it isn't "beast" in some way or another. He created the Switchback, which I realize that it's now is a bit antiquated, but please recognize the innovation factor of it, even now. He knows how to design PVs and he knows exactly what he's doing. He doesn't want you to send back 1000 of these. He's going to do it right - he's got a lot of money invested in the Vario. A better guy you will not likely ever meet. Have some faith please.
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It wasn't when I posted that link.
It says 5 now, but said 3 when I posted on 8/20.
The review models weren't 5 amps but don't take those as being set in stone. As it is, the VARIO (which is NOT the Imotion2 V+) was rejected by Tim from Vaporbeast (and its release date is now pushed back for at least 2 months) and if it can't be put to the way he wants it he said he's going to back out before he puts his reputation on the line. If Cigarstar released the Imotion2 V+ "as is" it will tank. Hard. If the Vario can't push 5 amps it's a deal breaker as beyond price point that is the only outstanding function it will have over the Lavatube and other competitors. Cigstar is supposedly working to fix that.
I just wanted to clear up any confusion I may have caused and let people know that the Vario is not the Imotion2 V+. It's an evolution of that model and if it is released and sold by Vaporbeast it will be superior to it, so please don't make assumptions based on the review models.
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