School me on carto-tanks

[Zack nash]

I started with plain carto's liked them and then tried a bunch of things ( nova's, stardust, dripping, ect.) And after spending all that money I decided I liked the plain old carto's best. Learning process, anyway I want to get a better carto experience and use with a tank.

I have bought two cheep smok tech tanks I also bought the slap ya momma tool and I have a real nice tank on order.

Here is where I have a problem, Yesterday I received the cheep smok tech tank, I took out the carto and filled it and then filled the tank 3/4 full and put it together. It worked of for a few min and then flooded, I cleaned up everything. Blew out the carto and it worked fine for a few more min's before flooding again.

I'm taking slow draws, I use a standred 70/30 pg/vg juice, carto has one hole. Ideals?

How do you store these by the way? I set it upright during the night and this morning half the tanked had leaked out the center hole.....

 

[bzlytbeer]

I have had he same issue, and I think it is more the cart than the tank. The ONLY thing on the tank that could cause this would be bad o-rings, so I would check them. If they are OK, it's the carts...

I have been using the smoktech 1.7 ohm single coil carts for a while, and have loved them - until recently. I think they may have changed the filler because my carts did not leak before, not 3 out of 4 are leaking. It has gotten so bad that I have changed to the genesis style or rebuildables.

 

[Zack nash]

I think the top outer o-ring is leaking, can this cause this problem? Is the o-ring seal meant to just keep juice from leaking out or is it an important factor in the device working?

 

[BGabe]

Here's the problem with these style tanks. When you slide the cartomizer up or down to fill it, or remove one of the caps, it causes the tank to pressurize when you put everything back in place. I have resorted to making my own tanks using the 20ml syringe mod. But, I added a fill port, similar to the Sub tanks from Mom and Pop Vapor Shop. This fill port is the only way to fill a carto tank without causing a build up of pressure.

When the tank pressurizes, you'll see bubbles coming up from the the holes in the carto. And not too long after that, you'll get a nice little faucet of juice out the bottom. Also, how many holes are in the carto? I found that the SMOK pre-punched cartos work best with 1 or 2 holes. 3 holes is just too much.

 

[Zack nash]

Ok I found the problem, The outer o-ring at the top was broken in half. What are the chances of the first tank you ever buy comes from the factory broken?

 

[Baditude]

From what I have read the Smoktech cartomizers are somewhat notorious for their tendency to easily flood. People have reported a difference in the polyfill between those and other cartos. Smoktech cartos allegedly having a looser polyfill to allow faster wicking, yet easier flooding. On the other hand, Boges allegedly have a tighter packed polyfill that takes longer to wick, yet they don't flood as easily.

I believe the force of one's draw might have an effect on flooding. Drawing too forcefully might pull too much liquid into the carto.

Filling a tank with the carto fully inserted in the bottom cap and with the top cap off is bad technique. Placing the top cap on after filling in this fashion causes too much pressure within the tank and forces too much juice into the carto, causing flooding.

I believe the trickiest part of cartotank use is with the holes in the carto. Punching one's own holes introduces a human error element that beginners do not need to experience initially; they would fare better buying pre-punched cartos.

 

[BlueSnake]

Ok I found the problem, The outer o-ring at the top was broken in half. What are the chances of the first tank you ever buy comes from the factory broken?

Unfortunately it happens. Contact the vendor to see if they will send you a replacement.

The very first tank my daughter ordered had a similar problem. I use carto/tanks almost exclusively. I, like you, have tried many things but I like my carto/tanks the best.

 

[Zack nash]

Filling a tank with the carto fully inserted in the bottom cap and with the top cap off is bad technique. Placing the top cap on after filling in this fashion causes too much pressure within the tank and forces too much juice into the carto, causing flooding.

I didn't take off the top cap or I would have seen it was broken to start with. I put the slap ya momma on the top of the carto and pushed it down enough to get my filler needle in there and filled it up. then pushed it back up and removed the slap ya mamma and droped another ml in the empty carto. I asume that is the correct way from what all I've read.

 

[Zack nash]

I am now using the other smoktech tank I bought from the same store and its working great. It just sucks the first one was broken when I am just learning about using these. I thought I had done something wrong......

 

[ninjuh]

I like the hit on carto tanks but it almost doesn't seem worth it for the hassle & mess. I can fill them up without getting juice everywhere but they really are a pain in the ..... They also seem to eat up juice 2x as fast as any other liquid delivery method..

 

[Baditude]

I like the hit on carto tanks but it almost doesn't seem worth it for the hassle & mess. I can fill them up without getting juice everywhere but they really are a pain in the ..... They also seem to eat up juice 2x as fast as any other liquid delivery method..

I don't see carto tanks as a hassle or a mess to deal with at all. To me they have become easy, and I'm all about the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid). I've not noticed excessive juice consumption with tanks, either.

In what way have you found tanks to be a PITA? What tanks and cartos have you been using, and are you using a tank tool?

Yes, there was a learning curve involved initially, and I experienced frustrations, especially with punching my own cartos. After giving punching my own cartos a lengthly trial, I've returned to buying the laser-drilled cartomizers that eliminate any issues with hole size or deformed cartomizers. They provide a much welcomed consistancy carto to carto.

Using well-established techniques of pre-filling the cartomizer and filling a tank with the Slap-Yo-Momma tank tool, I can fill a new carto and tank in less than a few minutes and not waste more than a drop or two of juice. No leaking or flooding issues and no dry hits.

 

[ninjuh]

I don't see carto tanks as a hassle or a mess to deal with at all. To me they have become easy, and I'm all about the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid). I've not noticed excessive juice consumption with tanks, either.

In what way have you found tanks to be a PITA? What tanks and cartos have you been using, and are you using a tank tool?

Yes, there was a learning curve involved initially, and I experienced frustrations, especially with punching my own cartos. After giving punching my own cartos a lengthly trial, I've returned to buying the laser-drilled cartomizers that eliminate any issues with hole size or deformed cartomizers. They provide a much welcomed consistancy carto to carto.

Using well-established techniques of pre-filling the cartomizer and filling a tank with the Slap-Yo-Momma tank tool, I can fill a new carto and tank in less than a few minutes and not waste more than a drop or two of juice. No leaking or flooding issues and no dry hits.

They're a PITA because of how many things can go wrong if one is not careful. As I said in my post, I can fill/punch/clean/etc with zero problems, but that doesn't change the fact that they're a pain in my ... compared to a vivi nova or some of the other new developments as of late

 

[Lt. Col. Killjoy]

Pluses and minuses with everything, folks. I use both carto tanks and novas. The novas are probably slightly more hassle free, and I get slightly better flavor. That being said, if I prepare the carto the right way, my tanks will wick even the thickest juice. In my experience, the same cannot be said for the Nova.