SE, NJoy vs FDA -- Discussion

[DataPhreak]

I've pushed this idea to Vocalek too, but I thought I'd post it here. Has anyone gotten the research reports reguarding FDA testing on e-cigarette safety, etc? And if not, could we use the freedom of information act to request all information they have regarding e-cigarettes? If we can get it, perhaps we can use it in defense of e-cigarettes or have it discredited. If we can't get it, maybe there will be another case we can push to the media regarding flagrant disregard by the FDA of due process.

 

[undefind]

i have a co worker that wants proof to a lot of claims that have been made about e-cigs (lab reports etc...) to back up a rant i went on about them. can anyone direct me to the thread that lists all of the lab reports supporting our stance on them? i would love to email them to him.

thanks.

 

[DataPhreak]

CASAA.org

CASAA | The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association has all kinds of great info, especially in the resources section of their website.

i have a co worker that wants proof to a lot of claims that have been made about e-cigs (lab reports etc...) to back up a rant i went on about them. can anyone direct me to the thread that lists all of the lab reports supporting our stance on them? i would love to email them to him.

thanks.

 

[yvilla]

Undefind, look here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...l-may-help-our-efforts-fda-5.html#post2861228

 

[DataPhreak]

Edited for dumbness.

 

[yvilla]

Data, the link I gave isn't to the article - it leads directly to Elaine's post at about page 5 of the thread, the one listing all the journal articles and research findings (that undefind was asking for).

 

[DataPhreak]

My bad. I thought you were refferencing the OP in that thread, not Vocalek's post.

 

[yvilla]

It's ok. The problem is the forum's autoformatting of links doesn't give a clue when you are linking to a specific page of a thread that that's what you are doing. The only way a reader would know for sure is to click the link and see where they get to.

 

[MoonRose]

It's ok. The problem is the forum's autoformatting of links doesn't give a clue when you are linking to a specific page of a thread that that's what you are doing. The only way a reader would know for sure is to click the link and see where they get to.

I believe our CASAA site gurus are going to be working on that over the next few weeks to see if they can't get the links to show where they are going.

 

[CES]

I know that I sounded naive - - but the usual conflicts of interest seem to be a bit more subtle, like ignoring facts or putting their own spin on things.. This is such an openly flagrant disregard...it's incredible what we let people get by with.

you didn't really sound naive...my sarcasm was directed at how huge and blatant the COIs are. I'm continually surprised by how acceptable it seems to be.

 

[JustJulie]

Hey, guys . . . I'm having trouble logging onto Pacer to check dockets. Not sure what the scoop is . . . I can log in for purposes of checking my account balance (which is zero, by the way), but the separate log in to check court cases comes back as "null." I've cleared cookies and tried different browsers, but nothing seems to be working.

Any way, I'll keep checking. Just didn't want anyone (JERRY) to think I had forgotten.

 

[JerryRM]

I know that you would never forget to check the docket. Thankfully there shouldn't be anything on there that you would want to post here, Julie.

 

[Our House]

Thanks (for nothing) Julie!

 

[cobaltblue]

Hey, guys . . . I'm having trouble logging onto Pacer to check dockets. Not sure what the scoop is . . . I can log in for purposes of checking my account balance (which is zero, by the way), but the separate log in to check court cases comes back as "null." I've cleared cookies and tried different browsers, but nothing seems to be working.

Any way, I'll keep checking. Just didn't want anyone (JERRY) to think I had forgotten.

This must be it. For all the times we've taken Julie's computer for granted and left it feeling unappreciated...

Thank You Julie's Computer!

 

[JerryRM]

This must be it. For all the times we've taken Julie's computer for granted and left it feeling unappreciated...

Thank You Julie's Computer!

That is so true, the computer does all the work, Julie just pushes some buttons. Thank you, Julie's computer.

 

[JustJulie]

I come bearing gifts this evening . . .

Smoke Anywhere (not to be confused with Smoking Everywhere) has filed a motion to intervene in the NJOY v. FDA case currently pending before Judge Leon.

I've attached the motion, the complaint, and the Rule 7.1 certificate. I didn't bother to attach the motions pro hac vice (attorneys not admitted to practice in this particular court asking for permission to do so for this particular case).

This isn't an automatic in . . . Judge Leon will need to rule on the motion.

Game on.

My computer thanks each and every one of you.

 

[cobaltblue]

Game on is right. Thanks Julie!

(And Julie's computer, too. lol)

 

[JerryRM]

Very interesting Julie, my thanks to you and your computer.

 

[JustJulie]

Y'all are giving my computer a big head. It's now agitating for a new screen saver.

 

[cobaltblue]

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