Secondhand Vape

[Taniger1]

Ok ya'll. I'm sitting here giggling at a LOT of the answers. A few things bout medicine. First, you'ld be AMAZED at how few medical proffesionals have to continue their education. Most states do NOT require cont. education to KEEP a license in ANY type of medicine. SO.....if you have someone who has been an RN for YEARS, their education is OLD. Now, the way the heart works does not change. The way your lungs work, does not change. So for a BASIS, their educations are sound. (Before I go any farther there ARE states, such as WA where I live, in which you HAVE to take continueing education courses in order to KEEP your license if you practice ANY kind of medicine, i.e. Dr, RN, PT, RT etc)

For new fangled devices such as PV's, well, it's required the nurses and doctors do some research, generally on their own TIME. Needless to say, it is not SURPRISING this attitude is so rampant even through the medical community. I personally am blessed with Doc's that research and TRY not to talk out their toukases. So MY Doc's (at work anyway) are actually VERY supportive and are pushing the issue at work about allowing PV's in places INSIDE the work place (WA is a non smoking indoors state) in selective areas.

As far as your friend go's, you can try to get her to change her mind with facts. However, there are quite a few people who will not allow facts to get in the way of BELIEF!

 

[Running Wolf]

My daughter doesn't want it either. The way she explained it, which makes sense, is that the nicotine in the juice can't all go in your body; some is expelled in the vapor you blow out.

That's true. Also though have to look at just how much nic is blown out just how dispersed it is.

Being a guest in someone's house means showing respect and honor for their rules. Plus when it's your kids they will throw back a parent's famous words "As long as you're under my roof you'll follow my rules!"

"Sensitivity" could be from a bazillion things ...... an odor, menthol, any acidic residue ...... who knows.

Odors can easily trigger migraines.

 

[swedishfish]

Some study I just heard, was it the FDA? It was on vaporcast....said that vapor from eliquid contained nicotine. If your friend has palpitations from caffeine, then nicotine will stimulate her too. I'll try to figure out where this study came from...

I'd be interested in you posting a link for this comment. I have seen members say that they and their family had blood work done and cotinine results were negative for family, negligible for them.

Read through the reports in the CASAA link.

 

[caspr]

Second Hand Smoke is one of the things I have worried about. I have COPD and don't smoke or vape but my wife does and I am getting her to vape so we can be in the same room of the house together.
I am hoping that I will have no problems with her vaping.

 

[sandybeach]

I have met nurses that believe nicotine causes cancer and heart disease. It makes me wonder if they are actually taught that in nursing school. Either way, the amount of misinformation and ignorance is truly astounding.

What is it then that causes lung cancer and heart disease?

 

[Khzhak]

Generally, people in her house, guest or not, call each other on BS. But one of the other guests laughed when I referred to myself as an ex-smoker. Even counting hookahs, it's been at least three years. The double standards and/or misconceptions run high, and they think they know a lot. As far as belief goes, she's an atheist, and she likes tomatoes. So there's that. Don't confuse them with facts time.

 

[kabonk]

I don't vape in my mom's house I won't even ask if I could because I wouldn't smoke there, if I'm stuck there for hours and hours I will stealth vapes in another room and just hold in the vaper breath in again and nothing comes out and I get a quick nic hit.

 

[swedishfish]

What is it then that causes lung cancer and heart disease?

Nicotine doesn't cause cancer. There was a recent (non-pv related) study that confirms this.

It's the carcinogens in cigarettes that cause cancer.

 

[robblundberg]

Then respect your friend. I don't allow smoking, farting, cursing or fighting in my house.

well jesus, what do you allow in your house?

 

[robblundberg]

Nicotine doesn't cause cancer. There was a recent (non-pv related) study that confirms this.

It's the carcinogens in cigarettes that cause cancer.

what she said.

there's over 4-5,000 chemicals in your average cigarette. most of them are carcinogens (cancer causing agents). including (but certainly not limited to) formeldahyde, ddt, lead, cyanide, and a whole list of other nasty stuff.

nicotine, on it's own (as far as i know) has never been linked to causing any form of cancer or emphyzema. it's the tar, and carcinogens in cigarettes.

 

[Heather Mather]

I started vaping when I was pregnant with my youngest son. I had no problems not smoking with his big brother, but I was working 2 full time jobs, then going to school, and I could NOT make myself quit.

I asked the doc about e-cigs, and he was all for it. I asked if there were any side effects I should worry about for the baby, and he said it's not the nicotine in cigs that are dangerous, but the chemicals/carcinogens. He said the nicotine was just a stimulant like caffeine, and delclared PVs completely safe.

So, it seems to me if it's safe for an unborn baby, it'd be safe to most people via second hand vapors.

 

[Freddytk421]

I started vaping when I was pregnant with my youngest son. I had no problems not smoking with his big brother, but I was working 2 full time jobs, then going to school, and I could NOT make myself quit.

I asked the doc about e-cigs, and he was all for it. I asked if there were any side effects I should worry about for the baby, and he said it's not the nicotine in cigs that are dangerous, but the chemicals/carcinogens. He said the nicotine was just a stimulant like caffeine, and delclared PVs completely safe.

So, it seems to me if it's safe for an unborn baby, it'd be safe to most people via second hand vapors.

What? thats funny. You're kidding for sure.

 

[robblundberg]

What? thats funny. You're kidding for sure.

god i hope so.

 

[swedishfish]

What, that she couldn't quit smoking so she vaped instead and had the gall to actually post about it? We're not really going to start judging people regarding smoking/vaping on here are we?

 

[BluSwatch]

And I can believe her MD would rather she vape than smoke ...... OBs had been handing out Welbutrin in the past to help pregnant women stop smoking, and that's not a benign drug.

 

[MSRN]

I wondered this exact same thing today when I was vaping in front of my sister who is a non-smoker

 

[Off Topic]

If your MD thinks that vaping is a bad idea, you need to get a different MD.

I know some women who won't even take an asprin while pregnant..... so perhaps that perspective was coming through in Fred's and Rob's posts.

All things being equal, if you can't quit smoking without a nic replacement, then use a nic replacement that actually works.

 

[Nicko]

I started vaping when I was pregnant with my youngest son. I had no problems not smoking with his big brother, but I was working 2 full time jobs, then going to school, and I could NOT make myself quit.

I asked the doc about e-cigs, and he was all for it. I asked if there were any side effects I should worry about for the baby, and he said it's not the nicotine in cigs that are dangerous, but the chemicals/carcinogens. He said the nicotine was just a stimulant like caffeine, and delclared PVs completely safe.

So, it seems to me if it's safe for an unborn baby, it'd be safe to most people via second hand vapors.

That's great. You are lucky to have such a good doctor.

 

[Nicko]

What is it then that causes lung cancer and heart disease?

There are several risk factors. Smoking is a major one.

 

[Freddytk421]

That sounds like Dr Conrad Murray. I don't know if I can say anything because im a dude but I would't even let my kid have chinese formula because we know what they do to that stuff. She said her Dr. declared them safe and that's why I think it's fake. Not safer but safe. don't use butter flavor just to be safer. I guess some people need to test the pre-natal e-cig effects.


could be a reporter planting a story on here. I wouldn't be surprised.