Store clerks who fail to check ID and sell to minors will now be subject to the death penalty.
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Store clerks who fail to check ID and sell to minors will now be subject to the death penalty.
"Can we have coffee and cigarettes?" - just before they go to recess...
HA! And then they laugh. I am so glad to hear they think this is funny.
HA! And then they laugh. I am so glad to hear they think this is funny.
I only caught the last few minutes. The Burr Amendment, which would have placed tobacco regulation under a "tobacco Products Advisory Committee" in HHS, rather than the FDA, was defeated 13-9.
They've adjourned until 5:45, but Dodd (ugh) wants to get this "completed tonight" because they have other more pressing matters to attend to, or something.
Some female member asked if they could have "coffee and cigarettes" at the meeting. Big laugh all around. Har. Har. What do they care?
The link on the OP will take you to the page with the live-streaming video at 5:45.
Minds were made up long ago. This is theater for voters back home.
As signs say: Your tax dollars at work...
As signs say: Your tax dollars at work...
Richard Burr (Republican, North Carolina) made a very articulate argument for the e-cig, though he was specifically referring the the Camel Orbs. He cited the work of AAPHP (Joel Nitzken) and presented a harm reduction model for the benefit of *current smokers.* Although this senator from a tobacco state obviously has complex motives, our position was actually well presented by him. The Kennedy bill throws current smokers to the wolves and this is the most serious problem with the bill in my opinion. I haven't watched the entire proceeding as I write. Has it all been decided and pushed out of committee as of now?
I couldn't actually get time to listen in (I'm at work), but I am wondering the same thing. Anybody know the results of todays committee hearing?
It's sad because some of them make great arguments. Yet you feel that they might as well be speaking to an empty room. Minds are already made up.
For some it is the conclusion of their great ideological Crusade. Others see this as an easy way to gain voter's favor. I mean who votes down the family smoking prevention act?
If the UK wasn't becoming more Orwellian with each passing day I would already have moved. I fear the western world as lost it's mind.
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ROFLMAO...don't we all die...so technically 3 out of 3 tobacco smokers die, right? I just find it funny how he is shoving statistics in everybody's face to get them to say yes to the bill...and all he is doing is spouting numbers out as a fear factorI loved that! Everybody else dies, too. Even people who are perfect and have NO vices. Poor Jerks
That's funny all right..see, they think they have to ask somebody's permission! This is STUPID, I can't look anymore. I yell at my TV during White House briefings, this is even worse. They're going to spend in excess of One Hundred Million dollars on this clap-trap BS.
What a waste of good money. Give it to SCHIPS instead, dopes.
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Hi all - I'm from Canada but most interested in what goes down re the FDA as, whatever is decided (or pre-decided as it appears) will be closely followed by our puppy dog Health Canada here. Can't say I'm surprised at what I'm reading. Our civilization has long since passed the 'age of reason' and we're well into the 'age of hysteria'. Oh, and mass control it appears. Just wanted to add that I didn't start smoking until I was 27 and my husband until about the same age so just proves that you don't have to be young to be stupid and influenced. Regarding that oncologist ... well ... I hate to say it but that seems to be the start of a trend. A friend of mine was told last week by a doctor that he refuses to biopsy four polyps on her voice box until she is four months smoke-free. Among other things, I can foresee in the very near future that ALL of us smokers will be refused medical treatment because of our 'self-induced affliction'. Want to make any bets that this will be another well concealed 'Bill' that will be passed one of these days? Maybe it's just that this whole mess makes me so very angry, frustrated and depressed that I am becoming a tad bit bitter about the whole thing. E-cigs (in my opinion) are a life SAVING device but that little fact is so very obviously of no concern to any of the self-righteous sheep both in and out of governments. We are no longer looking at an Orwellian world - we are in it! I despair for our children ... I really do. They have no idea what freedoms they have already lost and will continue to lose ...
Sorry for the rant but my blood can't make up it's mind whether to boil or go ice cold.
Sorry for the rant but my blood can't make up it's mind whether to boil or go ice cold.
To add to the links in the OP, the 5/20 hearing is at Welcome - U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions
That is a good post.
I can't watch the video at work, but I wanted to comment on your post about denying medical service to smokers. Why is it that smokers are singled out as the ONLY group that causes harm to themselves? Are they going to deny people treatment that eat too much? How about people that are willing to harm themselves by getting behind the wheel of a car? What about people that willingly work in coal mines? Sheesh...where does it stop? Oh yeah, it's only the smokers.
I feel your pain.
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