Senate working on bill to regulate e-cigarettes

[fiddleshe]

Senate eyes e-cigarette crackdown

Here is the scariest part of the article. “Refillable cartridges are an invitation to hazardous concoctions, and we need to get them off the market too.”

They want to get rid of everything other than disposable carts in tobacco flavor. Plus they want to tax them the rate of cigarettes. The whole thing is BS. I am so angry right now.

 

[Rossum]

Mitt Romney and Jeff Merkley. No surprise there.

 

[bombastinator]

Senate eyes e-cigarette crackdown

Here is the scariest part of the article. “Refillable cartridges are an invitation to hazardous concoctions, and we need to get them off the market too.”

They want to get rid of everything other than disposable carts in tobacco flavor. Plus they want to tax them the rate of cigarettes. The whole thing is BS. I am so angry right now.

The last bill the senate passed was obamacare. They’ll probably need to find a way around the great bugbear of filibuster which has more or less paralyzed all federal legislation for many years. That they are moving at all implies that they think they can. Whether it’s true or not is another question.

 

[iVapeDIY]

Get your RBAs while you can!

 

[bnrkwest]

Let's start telling those that vote yes for this will be voted out! We are vapers and we have a voice and a vote. Kick them out of office!

 

[fiddleshe]

Get plenty of nic base too

 

[bnrkwest]

I really don't like anyone in government right now, no one is sticking up for vapers that quit smoking because of fruit and desert flavors. They don't care about us at all! Vote them out!

 

[Opinionated]

Mitt Romney and Jeff Merkley. No surprise there.

Apparently Dick Durbin too..

 

[Doffy]

Excuse dumb Aussie

So, Senate is left? But congress is right?

We get that here often, and it usually means everything is deadlocked and nothing passes.

But, some things just keep getting pushed. They'll change a clause or 3. Sometimes make it palatable to the opposition, or sometimes just keep trying until they do have the numbers to push it.

 

[Don29palms]

Excuse dumb Aussie

So, Senate is left? But congress is right?

We get that here often, and it usually means everything is deadlocked and nothing passes.

But, some things just keep getting pushed. They'll change a clause or 3. Sometimes make it palatable to the opposition, or sometimes just keep trying until they do have the numbers to push it.

Just the opposite. House is controlled by demonrats and senate is controlled by rebublicants. Congress is a combination of the house of representatives and the senate.

 

[Don29palms]

Why don't these asshats just enforce the laws already on the books instead of making more laws they won't enforce? I thought it was already illegal for minors to vape.

 

[440BB]

Here's a rare bill that Mitch will let get to the floor. Kentucky is the nation's second leading producer of tobacco.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Excuse dumb Aussie

So, Senate is left? But congress is right?

We get that here often, and it usually means everything is deadlocked and nothing passes.

But, some things just keep getting pushed. They'll change a clause or 3. Sometimes make it palatable to the opposition, or sometimes just keep trying until they do have the numbers to push it.

Gridlock is my friend, when neither party can get much of anything done then the citizens are much safer.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Why don't these asshats just enforce the laws already on the books instead of making more laws they won't enforce? I thought it was already illegal for minors to vape.

Head lines and glory come legislators from the passing, after passage their job (of mucking things up) is done. Who cares if the laws aren't enforced, they "did something"?

 

[Doffy]

Why don't these asshats just enforce the laws already on the books instead of making more laws they won't enforce? I thought it was already illegal for minors to vape.

and invest money in it? are you crazy?

 

[icepickmaker84]

All the wonderful things I can buy online and they’re worried about refillable tanks lol.

 

[Opinionated]

Head lines and glory come legislators from the passing, after passage their job (of mucking things up) is done. Who cares if the laws aren't enforced, they "did something"?

And that's the issue right there. They were voted into office as makers of law..

If they say there are no laws to make, they essentially tell us there's no need for their existence therefore, in order to justify their existence they need to pass laws..

They don't care that doing this is harmful, they just need to justify their paycheck in order to keep getting one - or so they believe.

this, over time, has created the situation we find ourselves in....a nanny state.

 

[bombastinator]

Gridlock is my friend, when neither party can get much of anything done then the citizens are much safer.

No. Not at all. The opposite really. The problem is the government is rarely actually the predator. In most instances of government predation the government is moved by corporate money. An inactive government allows other predators to thrive. Generally corporations. And as predators they are much much more active. There are numerous examples of such today. Corporate big data collection is one. BT marketing falsehood is another.

 

[bombastinator]

Why don't these asshats just enforce the laws already on the books instead of making more laws they won't enforce? I thought it was already illegal for minors to vape.

Yup. And it’s illegal to put non deeming approved chemicals in e-cig juice. That last one very possibly wasn’t even done. It was done with non e-cig vapes not covered under the deeming. We seem to be taking all the heat for it though. Who would have thought the deeming would come back and prove to be a potential life-saver?

 

[bombastinator]

And that's the issue right there. They were voted into office as makers of law..

If they say there are no laws to make, they essentially tell us there's no need for their existence therefore, in order to justify their existence they need to pass laws..

They don't care that doing this is harmful, they just need to justify their paycheck in order to keep getting one - or so they believe.

this, over time, has created the situation we find ourselves in....a nanny state.

That seems to be nothing but a series of assumptions and false syllogisms based on a partial description. It is true that it is the job of other parts of the government to enforce laws. Such enforcement can be stopped by legislators though by refusing to fund enforcement systems leaving the enforcers no way to actually do their job. There’s been a whole lot of that lately. You seem to be talking about the problem of the unfunded mandate without mentioning the funding bit.