Seriously about to give up on vaping!

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CSH65

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I had the same problem with my tanks, especially with darker juice. There is nothing worse than a mouth full of juice. I went back to cartos and have not had the problem since. Also, I found that after my first week of vaping, the stick batteries stopped giving me flavor and throat hit. Bought an eGo Twist and have been very happy now that I don't use the tanks anymore. Since I was a heavy smoker, and now a heavy vaper, I change the carto every 2 to 3 days.
 

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I 100% agree with you CSH65.

I got into vaping so I could successfully give up a 35 year habit that was extremely BAD for my health.

I stopped smoking COMPLETELY using a lousy standard Blu kit.

I now use Kgo batteries along with a 1000 mah twist and 95% of the time I use either a boge or a 1.7 ohm smoketech xl cartomizer.

I get great throat hits along with good flavor and it's ALL I need to stay off the cigarettes.

I buy clearo's almost every time I order juice or cartomizers. Sometimes they work great for a little while sometimes they blow right from the start. When I get tired of fiddling with them OR they start leaking I toss them out and put on a trusty boge or a 1.7 ohm smoketech xl cartomizer to get back to basics and vape on. :thumb:
 

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I know the early versions of the Vivi Novas where plagued with problems, so I am wondering if this is the version you have. I use the 2.5 version and have no problems. In fact they are the most "frig-free" of anything I have tried.

Other than recommending them or the Mini Vivi Nova, I've got nothing that others haven't already mentioned. If you are already using the latest version Vivi Nova, then I am lost.

Hang in there, regardless. Relax, Enjoy! (as much as you can) Lol
 

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Hello X P3 Flight Engineer I have a couple of those 2.5 Vivi Nova's and they do tend to work well but I do have to replace the heads fairly regularly to keep them working in top condition.

I still think plain old CHEAP and idiot proof LR cartomizers are the best thing to use on a regular basis especially for someone who becomes easily annoyed by all these less than consistent Chinese clearo's.

More than once I have bought 5 or 6 clearomizers thinking I had found the "best" ones and then 2 or 3 weeks later I end up realizing every single one of them had failed one way or the other.

It is annoying and I know just how the OP feels. Like I said earlier, it's a lot easier to toss out an 80 cent cartomizer than a 5 dollar Stardust.
 

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I know you all will think I'm crazy, but...I got my eGo, with the atomizer/cartridge combo. When I got
some new atomizers in, I cleaned them, blew them out, primed them, etc. And they would taste horrid
after 1 or 2 hits. So I de-bridged them. Kept using my cartridges and refilling them as usual, but it worked
great. Until I get my Stardust, or the Viva Nova system, this is what I have. So I modded it. It works, even
with my silly little cartridges that I drop my juice into. I even have fun and drop a couple drops directly on
the atomizer. But I get great flavor and very little problems. I know, weird right? But it WORKS. So whatever
works for you. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, believe me, if it was, I'd be out of luck.

Don't give up!!
 

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This past week I have tried some horizontal coil cartomizers, and I don't usually like regular cartomizers. I have tried many. These are awesome! I actually got them from Volt, but I have since been looking at the Kangers. You cannot burn the filler in them because the coil does not run through the filler, it is at the bottom. It's sort of like an atomizer with filler above feeding the bottom coil the juice. OMG! Amazing flavor and vapor. I think I am becoming a cartomizer lover after all. I usually drip, but I have to admit these horizontal bottom coil cartomizers are the BOMB!
 

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I prefer dripping on an atomizer, but recently have discovered the horizontal bottom coil cartomizers and they are great! I never have cared for cartomizers but these are like using an atomizer but with filler to keep the coil moist. The great thing about these are that they DON'T burn because there is no coil going through the filler like regular cartos. I never have cared for clearos either, and I have the phoenix and don't care for those either. But I've been ckg out the different horizontal coil cartomizers online like Kanger and others to get more because these things seem to last forever before filling and you don't have to worry about burning the filler ever. The ones I'm using now are the Volt cartomizers. It's the first time I have ever liked a cartomizer!

This past week I have tried some horizontal coil cartomizers, and I don't usually like regular cartomizers. I have tried many. These are awesome! I actually got them from Volt, but I have since been looking at the Kangers. You cannot burn the filler in them because the coil does not run through the filler, it is at the bottom. It's sort of like an atomizer with filler above feeding the bottom coil the juice. OMG! Amazing flavor and vapor. I think I am becoming a cartomizer lover after all. I usually drip, but I have to admit these horizontal bottom coil cartomizers are the BOMB!

Time for bed! You are beginning to repeat your self!

Have a good night. Lol
 

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I so feel your pain. When I first tried clearos my next post was titled something like "Help me before I break anything else", cause I was screwing up everything I touched before I even got a vape from it. Clearos do have a bit of a learning curve, but they are very much worth it IMO. I will never use a carto again. The filler is nasty, and I had to drip every few minutes to keep them wet enough for my tastes.

Now, I don't know about the specific clearos that you mentioned. (I think anyway. I didn't recognize any of the names but each vendor changes it.) So this is general clearo advice:

Burnt: If you have burnt the plastic seal that sits on the coil, this will not go away unless you cut the burnt part out. Get a small pair of scissors and just trim the burnt brown pieces off the plastic. Then replace it and you should be good to go. Might not be a bad idea to go ahead and clean it too. Also dry burnt hits may be coming from improper wicking. Try tilting the clearo between hits, and this should keep the coils good and juicy.

Leaking into the air tube: Usually for me this is caused by an improperly seated seal. They can be a bit touchy and want to be seated just so. Try removing the seal and reseating it. Make sure your wicks are aligned with your wick slots. I also notice that using the same clearo over time will start to get the I just wanna leak effect going on. When this happens I clean them and they are usually better the next use. Also, try to keep them upright while not in use to avoid overwicking.

Advice in general: Try posting in the vendor forum for the product that you purchased. I find that I get better advice for the specific product that I am having trouble with. I'm not sure about the other vendors, but I know gotvapes has a great forum with very helpful users, and Dan and Chris (the owners) both are very active on the forum too.
 

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This response may be late...and a tad bit off topic...but I think a lot of the dissatisfaction vapers encounter stems from too many choices.

Back when we were smokers we didn't jump from brand to brand. We favored one brand and that was it. We switch to vaping and our heads explode. To simply vape is not enough. We want the "best" vape, or the "best" pv, or the "best" whatever. Were we to turn our primary emphasis toward finding what works and staying with it, I believe our level of discontent would drastically decrease.

I could'nt agree more....SAboteur
 

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I should clarify. Im getting zero burnt taste from clearo's. So far they are my favorite. The issue is. (and this didnt happen until i got juice from madvapes.com) when im vaping them. They get juice in the air tube. I'm getting burnt taste from the CE2s that i just got from gotvapes.com today. Even after letting them sit i cant vape them for more than 2 hits before they get burnt taste. My vivi novas arent getting burnt either. they just constantly get juice in the air tube when vaping.

Thank you guys for all of your help so far.

The vivi nova will get juice in the center if your head is not on tight. I had this happen a couple time when I was in the "getting to know it stage" Take the top off, pour your juice into something, empty bottle fine. Than clean up all your juice, take the head off put it to the side. Make little tissue paper twists and clean out the tube , you can rinse it if its really flooded, dry everything off except your head. Now that all is clean. Take the little silicone cap off, remember how the little metal cap thing is, rounded side up towards you, flat part facing the head. Now twist the head on your center post, give it a good twist, make sure it is snug, dont over tighten. Now put the silicone cap on the head. Now put your tank onto the bottom cap. Fill your tank and make sure you dont get juice down the center or on the top of the head, as it will flood the center post again. Now this is the tricky part, as you screw on the top, sometimes the turning will turn the head along with it and thats when you get the flooding. Twist the top cap on snug, but do not over turn. Wait a few minutes so your wicks are saturated. When you start in haling, start with short soft puffs. Let it all get saturated and wet, do this for a few more puffs and start to take longer slow puffs. VIVis dont seem to like real long fast hard draws, heats them up and drys the wicks out.

I had the flooding happen to me alot and kept wondering what the heck was going on. Till I read on another thread that sometimes as you twist the cap on it loosens the head and you get juice all down the center. With the vivi novas its all about the airflow, Do not over tighten things. Take it slow till the heads and new wicks break in. If you want more and larger plumes you might try making the vents larger, but again, when modding take it slow and dont make changes in large steps. If this doesnt work than I would return the Vivi and get another one, it might just be a dud, with all the huge production of these Im sure there are a dud or two around.

I tried royal smokers CE 2 and found them too twitchy. Again like the vivi and other atty type devices you have to take long slow draw and keep the atty wet. If you chain vape or dont keep them saturated they will start to heat up your juice and sometime the juice gets real dark and caramelized and you get clogging and a burned taste.

I do some dripping but I cant get into it as I am a chain vaper, constant dripping blah blah, its nice but not as as my all day method. I like the vivi they taste and perform close to atties and dripping. I love my tanks and cartos. It took me a bit of experimenting on getting the holes down.
There are a few variables as to why your cartos are flooding. I had that happen from either too many holes or I actually made my holes so deep they punctured the little center area that keeps the juice from getting in. The cartos themselves had issues, Boge was going thru some major problems causing me alot of headaches and stress, I would either flood or they would not wick, I thought what the heck am I dong wrong, well It was not all me, boge had alot of bad batches out there.

You didnt mention or dont remember what type of juice you use. If you are using cartos some juices have a harder time. What resistance are you using on your device ? Let me know if you have other questions as this is becoming an essay.
 

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Have your T2s started leaking yet? I have the t2s now been using them about a month or so, after a while they start leaking at the bottom. They were wonderful when I first got them, then after about 2-3 weeks just about all of mine have started leaking. If they didn't leak they would be great. good flavor and throat hit. I thought I could stop searching with this, but nope. I am going back to my old stand by the Kanger 510 cartomizer. I love the cartos so I thought their clearos would be just as good. I thought wrong. The plastic must not be able to take the heat from the coil. Forget about dropping them they come apart at the bottom. I dropped one and the tubing completely came off the base.

I didn't just buy them on a whim either, I looked at the reviews and they were all great reviews. But the people only used them for a week or so before they did the reviews. (note to all people reviewing cartomizers, tanks and stuff please use them longer then a week, because they are still pretty new and not really broken in. People spend their hard earned money on these items you review because they respect your opinion. So don't rush to do your reviews, chain vape them, use them all day,every day, not just part of the day). I have been very dissatisfied with peoples reviews on YouTube and other sites. I read and watch tons of stuff on things before I buy them only to find out they suck like every other tank or carto I have tried. I am not going to rely on them anymore because they all were wrong or lied about the product.
I am giving up on the tanks, clearos and plastic cartos, until they come out with something that will last longer then a week or so.
 

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I feel your pain on this one, been there myself. I've been through Atomizers, Cartomizers, Clearomizers...More types of E Liquids then I care to list. I've had leaking, dripping, soaking and shoking results with someone if not all of them ( Yes, got shocked more then once by a malfuctional v.1 Ego tank type A battery). I never gave up, just kept on trying and plugging away at it. Finally found that dripping on a 306 atty with cannon drip tip was the way to go. Had that going for a while until RBA's came out, been there on my phoenix ever since.
Basically what I'm going to say is search the form, ask the people at ECF..everyone here is uber helpful and trust me we have all felt like giving up more then once. Rely on the rocking people here at ECF and the strength of the community will help you continue on.

I myself owe the ECF a debt of grattitude that I may never get to repay...You'll do rock and help so many out in ways that you may not even know about, and have saved countless number of lives in doing so.
 
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