Setup suggestions.

[93gc40]

Probably a comment about the 510 depth being too shallow for some attys to sit flush to the mod. The cube 2 on fastech is spring loaded so I doubt that's an issue there, but could be. At least you will never need an upgrade, with that.

 

[4evermetalhead]

Ok so i haven't managed to update the first post. Had some family things with grandpa.
Anyway, the tfv4 looks great from all the reviews videos etc.
Logically there are other similar options. But cant find them except from uwell crown???!!!

Ideas?

Other high wattage alternatives to x cube 2 that can hit up to 100-150w? With vv vw vt etc.

Thanks,
The metalhead.

 

[fishwater]

A lot of the suggestions so far are excellent so I won't waste time there but I have to ask why you think you need so much voltage/wattage? I think any of the units in the 50-60 range would be plenty IMO. I have an SMY 60 TC & never need more than 30-40. You'll get plenty of throat hits & heat to simulate smoking at those levels. Temp control would be a better must have than a big box since it will save on coils & allow you to vape away without worrying about poor taste. Just my two cents as a noob fwiw!

 

[4evermetalhead]

Just a question that came to mind.

Is all vape mods and tanks made in china? There is none made in USA EU etc?

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[Caterpiller]

The Vapor Flask (not the Vapor Shark Vapor Flask) is made in the US.

The Kayfun tanks are made in EU.

In fact there's loads of kit made all over the US and EU, I just don't know which ones off the top of my head.

Still some of the Chinese stuff is pretty good quality, it's just worth checking the reviews first.

 

[coolerat]

Afew are still made in the US and EU. Hana comes to mind and they have a 200w mod. I don't know alot about them. There is another very low power mod made in the US that I bought and found to be a complete waste of money. YMMV as always.

I'm at peace with China modz. They range from 20 dollar iStick knock offs to the SX Mini and everything in between. The only mod purchase I regret was made in the US. Never had a China mod problem. I have a clone of one of those Hana mods and its been a super solid mod and I love the shape so I'd buy a Hana if I was in the market.

I had a TFV4 and found it pretty intense. Good tank just to much for this mudwhompin ole boy.

For high power TC use I have a Starre Pro. Great tank. Its also pretty intense so I don't use it alot.

Aspire Triton set up for TC is more my speed. I like it but again don't use it alot.

Subtank Mini is a great tank that works good in high ohm, subohm and TC versions. Good tank. Not the best but most versatile.

For a mod I'm mostly at 25-35w with RTA's and 50-70w with RDA's. RTA's make up about 90% of my usage. I would stay under 50 for a mod, there are dozens of choices, or buy a SX Mini and call it done.

For a high power mod Sigelei is hard to bet. Fairly priced and rock solid.

 

[Scotticus93]

Hello all,

Newb here, still puffing the stinkers. Trying to find the best setup/kit for me though to start vaping and throw those stinkers away for good.

Let me give you some background first.
I have been smocking for the last 12 years for sure. It might be more but anyhow.
I have tried cigalikes about 4-5 years ago and it was bad. They were probably very low quality chinese thingys with a need to recharge every 2-2.5 hours. I had no knowledge on e-cigs so i thought that this is not for me and felt cheated (i paid 200 Euros at the time for two cigalikes with 1 charger and 4 cartridges each, no manuals, no branding or anything else). So i continued with the stinkers.

Aproximately a year later i finally quit smocking for 8 clean months.
Then due to having a second job for the little extra, as face control on a bar which all my friends worked with me as well, and JD after work but habits kicked in again.

Anyway, i am now back to right path and looking to get my vape going.
But, i researched a lot and instead of making things clearer i am lost.

So i need some guidance.
I need a vape that in not ego/pen/cigalike looking. I like the boxy and i cannot lie.
I need something to last all day long (currently smocking about 25 analogs a day and some times maybe 30) so we are talking about a lot of puffing. (i guess that this means big battery capacity, high voltage and big tank??)

I need it to have variable voltage and variable wattage with regulated airflow so i can easily adjust everything to that points needs.
I want to have a medium throat hit as currently i am smocking rolled tobacco filtered cigarettes similar to lights?! not sure what is the nicotine etc on these but i am guessing that i will not need it to hit me hard. (i am using the imperial tobacco drum white)

And from what i read so far i will probably need RDA as well????!!!! not sure, definitely not sure on this one. Also not sure about the coil subject in general, ohms etc.
I need it to produce a good amount of vapor. I am not into cloud chasing, i just need a decent amount that i will enjoy though the quit smoking process, i will not attend shows.

I need it to produce kinda cool vapor so from what i learned so far i probably will not need anything more than 100w as anything above that is very warm? (this can also be adjusted from variable voltage and variable wattage??!! right??)
I want it not to leak when i lay it flat or something and never get that e-liquid in my mouth poket etc.

Also i need to be able to see inside the tank but it has to have some sort of protection around it (i have two lovely boys home, very very curious on things, i bet they will find it and drop it. First thing i am worried is not to get cut by any glass etc and second not to get the e-liquid on them.)
Probably there are a couple more but its ok nothing serious i think.

Phewwww. If i forgot anything that i should have mentioned please add it below so other newbs can get ideas.

So share your setups, give us newbs suggestions so we will nail this the first time and get exactly what we need.
If i can i will keep this post updated with all the options as reference to other newbs.

Thanks all in advance for the replies, help and the patience to go through this massive post.

All the best,
the metalhead

I'm currently rocking an ipv d2 with a subtank mini on top. It's actually a fairly popular setup on here and satisfying to say the least. I know you said you want something that will last all day long tho so you would probably have to carry an extra battery with you. If form factor isn't an issue I suggest something like a sigelei 100w 2 sony vtc4 batteries and a nitecore charger. And maybe top it with a uwell crown. I don't wanna break your bank. BTW I just charge my battery in my ipv d2. I hope this sets you on the right track. I'm thinking you want dual battery box mod with sub ohm tank. Rda's read up on. Takes a fair bit of experience to use them but not too hard.

 

[Scotticus93]

Maybe I give bad suggestions. I just think a dual box mod would last you longer but definitely stay within a reasonable budget. I have heard good things about the ipv 4. Oh and I vape 12mg. I suggest that if you go the sub ohm route and 18 if you don't. But that's gonna take some trial and error like people said
http://www.myvaporstore.com/Black-iPV4S-120W-Box-MOD-by-Pioneer4you-p/p4u-ipv4b.htm

 

[Scotticus93]

@coolerat that tfv4 is in my wish list since the moment you posted it. Thanks mate. Any other similar?

Also love the looks of x cube 2 and the options with kinda high vw.
I was watching this buddy here:
But at 9:56 he says something for the 510 that my ears can't pickup or understand. Kids are sleeping so I can't get the volume higher. I did understand that is a con and that not all tanks work on it????

Any similar to x cube 2?

Thanks,
the metalhead.

Here's what I'm buying next probably. https://www.elementvape.com/smok-cloud-machine-kit-x-cube-ii-and-tfv4-tank?enter=true
Might be my last upgrade. (Might be extra toys but I mean my last upgrade for daily driver) and its a great deal. Sorry for spamming your thread. I second the mvp 3. I don't own one but have held them and they are literally the most solid devices ive ever held (besides maybe mechs)

 

[4evermetalhead]

Hi Scotticus93,

There is no such thing as bad suggestion. Read the thread name bud. It clearly says setup suggestions not correct setup suggestions.
Thanks buddy for all the effort, you do have given lots of suggestions so far. i guess its needless to say keep em coming??

Thanks to all for the great info. As you noticed i liked everyones post as each post has helped. And since we thank for her i liked all posts.
I do hope though that you people can see what time i liked each and every post.
Reason for saying this is, i try to track where i left off by liking the post when im still researching the info.

I have to tell you,its been 4 straight hours i am researching products and comparing. My firefox has literally 35 open/active tabs just for vaping.

But i found just now that i not taking notes on paper and keep all this info for each product and thought i made in my mind.

So there are thing that i have already read and then i return back again to redo the same thing.


Anyway, after all this i think is a good idea to share what generally seems more appealing to me.
I believe a dual battery setup would be good. The longest it lasts the better.
Ofcourse ill get something with VV VW VT ( i was looking a device earlier that on specs said joules, i spend almost one hour to find out what that is just to say, pfff i dont need this (though its usefull but not priority to me now) )
I have never properly vaped in my life but i guess i will want a rich flavor feeling on my vape. TFV4 / triton/atlantis look good but lots of people claim that flavor gets mor than prefered rich.
And finally i guess ill go with RTAs.

Could someone advise how long does a coil last while RDA, RTA and while on attys???

Thanks all,
the metalhead

 

[coolerat]

The coil in an RTA??

I log all my builds, its important when you have as many tanks as I do, and I have an Orchid in daily service that the coils were built in April. Wicks are pulled as needed of coarse, lets say weekly but it varies wildly. Re-wicking takes a minute and costs .000000001 cents.

 

[Younghorsejr]

I think this will suit you just fine.
http://vapenw.com/ijust-2-kit-by-eleaf
And it's not a huge investment so you don't have worry about buying an entire mod setup and not liking it. As rip trippers put it "it's the simple vaper's dream". It's not complicated at all. It doesn't have variable wattage. You just charge and vape and it gives you nice clouds and most importantly(for people just getting off of cigs) a nice throat hit. That is the one thing I could not find when I was using the cigalikes and egos. But this mod hit so hard when I first used it that I felt like I needed to lower the nic level alot. It was amazing lol. But ya it pretty much acts like a mech mod and the more the battery is used the wattage will go down. It correlates with the battery's power. But if you are looking for a more in-depth mod that has more features such as variable wattage or variable voltage than this one might not be for you. But if you are a simple vaper just looking for something quick to kick you off the cigs this is it.

 

[4evermetalhead]

The coil in an RTA??

I log all my builds, its important when you have as many tanks as I do, and I have an Orchid in daily service that the coils were built in April. Wicks are pulled as needed of coarse, lets say weekly but it varies wildly. Re-wicking takes a minute and costs .000000001 cents.

Im not sure but i think i put my noobnes to the act. The reason why i said RTA was because i want to avoid stocking atty heads and fear that manufacturer might discontinue them and being unable to get a new one.
So i assumed that RTA atty is a good idea. But RDA seems massive and out of my likes or needs. I think. Yeap rewick and recoil is not an issue at least to me. Rewick is piece of cake. Recoil i can do, ohms etc is something i do know at least the basics. I am in the automotive world and ohms is something you have to know and use on autos.

@Younghorsejr Thanks for the suggestion mate. BUT that is not a dual battery setup as i would prefered. IT IS though a good cheap kit for experimentation for newbies who want to learn as they go.
I prefer to know everything beforehand. Its just the way i do things.

thanks,
the metalhead.

Good night people for now, ill get back to you all in approximately 8-9 hours.

 

[Scotticus93]

Hi Scotticus93,

There is no such thing as bad suggestion. Read the thread name bud. It clearly says setup suggestions not correct setup suggestions.
Thanks buddy for all the effort, you do have given lots of suggestions so far. i guess its needless to say keep em coming??

Thanks to all for the great info. As you noticed i liked everyones post as each post has helped. And since we thank for her i liked all posts.
I do hope though that you people can see what time i liked each and every post.
Reason for saying this is, i try to track where i left off by liking the post when im still researching the info.

I have to tell you,its been 4 straight hours i am researching products and comparing. My firefox has literally 35 open/active tabs just for vaping.

But i found just now that i not taking notes on paper and keep all this info for each product and thought i made in my mind.

So there are thing that i have already read and then i return back again to redo the same thing.


Anyway, after all this i think is a good idea to share what generally seems more appealing to me.
I believe a dual battery setup would be good. The longest it lasts the better.
Ofcourse ill get something with VV VW VT ( i was looking a device earlier that on specs said joules, i spend almost one hour to find out what that is just to say, pfff i dont need this (though its usefull but not priority to me now) )
I have never properly vaped in my life but i guess i will want a rich flavor feeling on my vape. TFV4 / triton/atlantis look good but lots of people claim that flavor gets mor than prefered rich.
And finally i guess ill go with RTAs.

Could someone advise how long does a coil last while RDA, RTA and while on attys???

Thanks all,
the metalhead

For whatever reason whenever running an rda I find I have to rewick and dry burn everyday but that's because of the juice i use. As much as I love rebuilding I have stuck to factory coils and feel its best for starting off. Especially quitting. Joules is the same as watts but in temp mode setting. I think maybe you should go with x cube 2. Tho you gotta do your homework on temp mode. I suggest sticking to kanthal for now. Like I said that's gonna be my next mod and I have been vaping for years. And I too have fell off the wagon. I have no doubt you will make it tho. You have the ambition

 

[Scotticus93]

Im not sure but i think i put my noobnes to the act. The reason why i said RTA was because i want to avoid stocking atty heads and fear that manufacturer might discontinue them and being unable to get a new one.
So i assumed that RTA atty is a good idea. But RDA seems massive and out of my likes or needs. I think. Yeap rewick and recoil is not an issue at least to me. Rewick is piece of cake. Recoil i can do, ohms etc is something i do know at least the basics. I am in the automotive world and ohms is something you have to know and use on autos.

@Younghorsejr Thanks for the suggestion mate. BUT that is not a dual battery setup as i would prefered. IT IS though a good cheap kit for experimentation for newbies who want to learn as they go.
I prefer to know everything beforehand. Its just the way i do things.

thanks,
the metalhead.

Good night people for now, ill get back to you all in approximately 8-9 hours.

Also the tfv4 that comes in that kit I sent you for x cube 2. It comes with an rta head..so you can use factory coils on that tank and rebuild it. Totally get it. I'll be jealous you did lol. And I pretty much garunteed you won't want a cig again

 

[Cannon from NJ]

If you want a cool vape and juice to last, I'd suggest a Subtank Mini. It only needs like 25 watts at most, even for low resistance builds. It's super versitile, never leaks, and comes with an RBA deck that's real easy to learn to build on. A 30w device is plenty for a subtank mini, but an istick 50w or even 100w is cheap enough. Don't spend hundreds on your first setup, in case you grow bored with it. You can get a decent setup for $50. Someone suggested the TFV4, it is a performing tank but it's also a massive tank. Most mods are designed for 22mm tanks and the TFV4 is 24mm. Just something to think about, I wouldn't like overhang from my tank on my mod.

 

[4evermetalhead]

If you want a cool vape and juice to last, I'd suggest a Subtank Mini. It only needs like 25 watts at most, even for low resistance builds. It's super versitile, never leaks, and comes with an RBA deck that's real easy to learn to build on. A 30w device is plenty for a subtank mini, but an istick 50w or even 100w is cheap enough. Don't spend hundreds on your first setup, in case you grow bored with it. You can get a decent setup for $50. Someone suggested the TFV4, it is a performing tank but it's also a massive tank. Most mods are designed for 22mm tanks and the TFV4 is 24mm. Just something to think about, I wouldn't like overhang from my tank on my mod.

That is exactly why i am thinking to purchase the TFV4 AND the subtank mini as well. If my pocket can lift the weight.
One question though, are there tank kits that you can purchase, which include all the optional attys?

I am thinking that if i can get these like in a bundle price i could easily mess with each one just to get an idea which suits me best.

Inception time. I managed to plant an idea in wife's mind on getting her into vaping as well. This has a triple win effect, i wont smell see or what so ever, her with a normal cigarette, so will she(helps on quitting to me at least as she does not want to quit). No more stinky smell for the kids from both of us. We both will be able enjoy nicotine and be much better than now.

Anyone ideas of any online shops to check prices for Smok x cube 2 with tfv4 tank and optional attys and a subtank mini plus attys with shipping to EU?
Its time to take a small pick on prices and see what the bank has to say, deal or no deal??!!

Thanks,
the metalhead.

 

[Elkster]

The reason that I went with a Kanger Subox Mini is that it is quite small. Batteries can be changed so I can carry an extra in my pocket. When a battery is no longer taking a charge I can replace just the battery, rather than the entire device. It can be run with sub ohm as well as above ohm resistance coils, and it comes with a deck to rebuild with your own home-built coils (if you choose). All of the basic safety precautions are in place. The price is very reasonable for all of these features!

 

[Boden]

Kanger Subtank mini, eVic VTC mini, 2 Samsung 25R, some Koh Gen Do cotton, 28 and 26 awg kanthal A1 resistance wire, eliquid of your choice at least one bottle at 18mg/mL.

 

[coolerat]

Kanger Subtank mini, eVic VTC mini, 2 Samsung 25R, some Koh Gen Do cotton, 28 and 26 awg kanthal A1 resistance wire, eliquid of your choice at least one bottle at 18mg/mL.

Good heavens, 18mg??

I know everyone is different but I'd say 18mg through a STM would near kill the average bear.

I have a couple STM's and they don't really come on with the flavor until 40w's or so with the new style coils. Anything over 6mg is gonna be HARSH.