Shopping For A Mod (Provari) & Backup (???) That use the same battery type.

[Katdarling]

I find this whole thing a bit funny actually. What really is the problem? Everyone is here to help one another thru our new life with vaping as our unifying factor.

Does it really matter if I vape a Joye 510 and you (general you) an Eclipse?

Credo, I'm glad you're excited with your new toy! I know I was too, and I'm sure I speak for all Darwin owners. I don't own a ProVari, but I bet I'd be excited with that new toy, too!

I love the car analogy, alldayvape. Enjoy your cars. I know I do, but I don't expect anyone else to have to agree with me. The road is what we share... isn't it?

So bottom line, congrats EVERYONE, on making the most important decision and heading up the best road, together.

 

[ukeman]

silly? unfair bashing? ...what are you talking about?

did you read my post? what's silly about it? or unfair?

Just for clarification on the juice issue... all mods have areas where juice can get in, no one has created a water proof mod as of yet. Although the Darwin does not have a juice well due to its design of the arm, it has an internal barrier preventing any juice from reaching the board and battery.

This argument over the Darwin/ provari is silly. Just because you are unsure of the internals, it does not warrant unfair bashing.

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[Credo]

silly? unfair bashing? ...what are you talking about?

did you read my post? what's silly about it? or unfair?

I think maybe Krisb was talking about one further up that declares Darwin as "delicate" and a "waste of money"

 

[Krisb]

Credo, no no no...was not talking about you at all. My comment was aimed at certain people that feel the need to bash a product, certainly not at people who are simply stating why they like one more than another. Comments like yours are constructive and will help others form an opinion on what they should buy.

Ukeman, wasn't at you either (lol, this is where meanings get lost without verbal conversation), the silly argument I was referring to was someone completely bashing the Darwin much earlier on. We are all certainly allowed our own preferences, but 'someone' earlier was spreading completely false rumors and misinformation.

My statement about the juice barrier was merely an FYI. There seems to be many questions about the possibility of juice damage, so wanted to clarify.

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[Credo]

Krisb, ukeman was wondering what what wrong with his comments...
I think you were referring to some much earlier than his.
No biggie here

 

[Krisb]

I think maybe Krisb was talking about one further up that declares Darwin as "delicate" and a "waste of money"

Yup, thank you for understanding, lol. I try not to point fingers, sometimes, though, this can get misunderstood.

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[Krisb]

Credo, I put in an edit to clarify that too

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[PKZap27]

Two things about the Darwin the pushed me to purchase the ProVari instead;

The adjustable dial and that swing arm for the atty connection. I just feel that I would have to constantly check the watts, volts, or whatever to see if the dial moved from bumping it or some other reason that might have caused the dial to move. The swing arm I just read comments that some people didn't care for it.

I may be completely wrong about the dial and/or the swing arm; I'm just saying why I purchased one over the other. I have no regrets about purchasing my ProVari though.

If any of you Darwin owners can give some feedback about the dial and/or the swing arm for the atty connection that would be great.

 

[Credo]

Two things about the Darwin the pushed me to purchase the ProVari instead;

The adjustable dial and that swing arm for the atty connection. I just feel that I would have to constantly check the watts, volts, or whatever to see if the dial moved from bumping it or some other reason that might have caused the dial to move. The swing arm I just read comments that some people didn't care for it.

I may be completely wrong about the dial and/or the swing arm; I'm just saying why I purchased one over the other. I have no regrets about purchasing my ProVari though.

If any of you Darwin owners can give some feedback about the dial and/or the swing arm for the atty connection that would be great.

That makes sense...sometimes a 'feature' also introduces a potential 'failure point'.
I.E. Tilt steering wheels in a car...one more thing that 'might' go wrong someday. Power windows and seats...etc. Those luxaruies still make the car more comfortable to operate, and sometimes even safer.

The swing arm is definately a feature to me. It allows you to customize the way you hold the PV...how you set it down when not using, and it acts like an on/off switch.

So the logic about 'possible failure points' is sound in a sense...but at the same time...when you hold one of these in your hands it's pretty clear that this ain't cheap crap that's going to fall apart on you.

Case in point: I have a home that is very close to antebellum. It has a set of doors that are a good 60lbs each. It has brass hinges...that are actually smaller, probably weaker, and with hand done metal that probably has more faults in it than the brass in this swing arm...BUT...the doors have opened and closed many times a day for over 120 years Earlier I spoke of my 30+ year old zippo lighter that I've dinged and flicked dozens of times a day for decades...no failures. And the dial...well...again, I have equipment with similar dials that have been twisted and tweaked and abused for decades...notta problem.

I have stuff much more cheaply built than this...the buttons in my computer keyboard...zillions of pushes a day...still going strong! My iPods, Kindle eReader, Cellphones that slide and flip open/closed hundreds of times a day...etc.....tin and plastic!!! NOT the alloy metal casing of Darwin for sure...but they're kicking with all kinds of abuse!

So really...how tough/heavy does it need to be? It's just a heating coil, a battery, some circuts, screen, and some sort of computer or logic chip.

I know...I might eat my words at some point...but from observations so far...this thing is plenty though for most people.

 

[ukeman]

Credo, I think the Darwin basher was wrong about it being delicate ... It's a lot of things, but delicate is not one of them... anyone who has held one would know that... for whatever reason, he was off base.

If you are no longer interested in continuing discussion about Provari, i suggest you close the thread if that is an option...just my opinion... by now, you've probably discovered the Darwin threads.

I see Provari in the OP and i'm "on it"... I am not sorry you got a Darwin... some have said it is "better" some have said it's "worse"... and for those whose preferences "vari" (heheh), it will fall on either side.

There are currently, to my knowledge, 3 regulated power pv's on the market (Provari, Darwin, and Infinity - a less high end pv).... and the Eclipse is coming this month.

It's the only way to go imo... because "smart" pv's are "better" imo.

Welcome to the club... enjoy your Darwin.

 

[Krisb]

Two things about the Darwin the pushed me to purchase the ProVari instead;

The adjustable dial and that swing arm for the atty connection. I just feel that I would have to constantly check the watts, volts, or whatever to see if the dial moved from bumping it or some other reason that might have caused the dial to move. The swing arm I just read comments that some people didn't care for it.

I may be completely wrong about the dial and/or the swing arm; I'm just saying why I purchased one over the other. I have no regrets about purchasing my ProVari though.

If any of you Darwin owners can give some feedback about the dial and/or the swing arm for the atty connection that would be great.

I've tried the provari and it Is a very nice mod, prior to finding the Darwin, that's the one I most considered.

As far as the dial I, personally, have never had it move on me accidentally. Guess it really depends on hand placement. The button being further down, there is no need to have my hand further up than the button during use. As far as feeling like you would have to constantly check the read out, it is quite large and visible and I occasional eye it as I bring the Darwin up to vape, but as I said, never had it accidentally move.

The arm will, like everything, ve personal preference. I like it because if I have a MAP on the Darwin, I can swing the arm up when I lay the Darwin down and it keeps the map perfectly up and stable. And I can fold the arm down and toss it in my purse.

After holding and trying both mods, the Darwin just felt better in my hand, I loved the idea of no batteries, the first vape Is the same as the last until battery dies completely, battery life is amazing and no menus to tap through!

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[Credo]

Fair enough, eventually I'll get a ProVari too
I sense potential collector value in all of these mods.

 

[Krisb]

Credo, I think the Darwin basher was wrong about it being delicate ... It's a lot of things, but delicate is not one of them... anyone who has held one would know that... for whatever reason, he was off base.

If you are no longer interested in continuing discussion about Provari, i suggest you close the thread if that is an option...just my opinion... by now, you've probably discovered the Darwin threads.

I see Provari in the OP and i'm "on it"... I am not sorry you got a Darwin... some have said it is "better" some have said it's "worse"... and for those whose preferences "vari" (heheh), it will fall on either side.

There are currently, to my knowledge, 3 regulated power pv's on the market (Provari, Darwin, and Infinity - a less high end pv).... and the Eclipse is coming this month.

It's the only way to go imo... because "smart" pv's are "better" imo.

Welcome to the club... enjoy your Darwin.

Actually, the provari and the infinity (and eclipse) are all vv, variable volt. The Darwin, as of now, is the only power regulated pv. Different technology altogether

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[Credo]

Thanks to all...

Thread Closed

 

[PKZap27]

I've tried the provari and it Is a very nice mod, prior to finding the Darwin, that's the one I most considered.

As far as the dial I, personally, have never had it move on me accidentally. Guess it really depends on hand placement. The button being further down, there is no need to have my hand further up than the button during use. As far as feeling like you would have to constantly check the read out, it is quite large and visible and I occasional eye it as I bring the Darwin up to vape, but as I said, never had it accidentally move.

The arm will, like everything, ve personal preference. I like it because if I have a MAP on the Darwin, I can swing the arm up when I lay the Darwin down and it keeps the map perfectly up and stable. And I can fold the arm down and toss it in my purse.

After holding and trying both mods, the Darwin just felt better in my hand, I loved the idea of no batteries, the first vape Is the same as the last until battery dies completely, battery life is amazing and no menus to tap through!

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Great feedback!

Thank you.

 

[PKZap27]

That makes sense...sometimes a 'feature' also introduces a potential 'failure point'.
I.E. Tilt steering wheels in a car...one more thing that 'might' go wrong someday. Power windows and seats...etc. Those luxaruies still make the car more comfortable to operate, and sometimes even safer.

The swing arm is definately a feature to me. It allows you to customize the way you hold the PV...how you set it down when not using, and it acts like an on/off switch.

So the logic about 'possible failure points' is sound in a sense...but at the same time...when you hold one of these in your hands it's pretty clear that this ain't cheap crap that's going to fall apart on you.

Case in point: I have a home that is very close to antebellum. It has a set of doors that are a good 60lbs each. It has brass hinges...that are actually smaller, probably weaker, and with hand done metal that probably has more faults in it than the brass in this swing arm...BUT...the doors have opened and closed many times a day for over 120 years Earlier I spoke of my 30+ year old zippo lighter that I've dinged and flicked dozens of times a day for decades...no failures. And the dial...well...again, I have equipment with similar dials that have been twisted and tweaked and abused for decades...notta problem.

I have stuff much more cheaply built than this...the buttons in my computer keyboard...zillions of pushes a day...still going strong! My iPods, Kindle eReader, Cellphones that slide and flip open/closed hundreds of times a day...etc.....tin and plastic!!! NOT the alloy metal casing of Darwin for sure...but they're kicking with all kinds of abuse!

So really...how tough/heavy does it need to be? It's just a heating coil, a battery, some circuts, screen, and some sort of computer or logic chip.

I know...I might eat my words at some point...but from observations so far...this thing is plenty though for most people.

I never said anything about anything failing.

I stated that I felt that the dial may move from handling it or something like picking it up or putting it in your pocket or purse.

Thanks for you feedback on the swing arm though.

 

[PKZap27]

Vots. Watts. Power.

What difference does it make the end result is the same.

Everyone hits their sweet spot.

I can tell what wattage I vape at with my ProVari.

The ProVari adjusts the power, wattage.

I would like to see someone prove that it doesn't. Because you can't.

The Darwin adjusts the volts.

I would like to see someone prove that it doesn't. Because you can't.

 

[JWebb]

I agree with Alldayvape, to each his own, both are excellent PV's with differnet features.

 

[Credo]

I never said anything about anything failing.

I stated that I felt that dial may move from handling it or something like putting it in your pocket or purse.

Thanks for you feedback on the swing arm though.

Ooops...many apologies, my serious bad on that. I'd been reading a review on possible Darwin failure points and it was stuck in my brain...

Hitting the dail is possible, but unlikely.......if you keep the arm swug up and shove it in a belt sheath or something that is really tight, it could turn it. Otherwise, it's stiff enough that it's not going to jump around on you without intent. It's placement is good in that I never touch the wheel in use unless I intend to do so....well away from the button. When the arm is closed with a carto or atty still attached, it protects the dial.

 

[PKZap27]

Ooops...my serious bad on that. I'd been reading a review on possible Darwin failure points and it was stuck in my brain...

Hitting the dail is possible, but unlikely.......if you keep the arm swug up and shove it in a belt sheath or something that is really tight, it could turn it. Otherwise, it's stiff enough that it's not going to jump around on you without intent. It's placement is good in that I never touch the wheel in use unless I intend to do so....well away from the button. When the arm is closed with a carto or atty still attached, it protects the dial.

Great feedback.

Thank you.