should we be stocking up just in case

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Puremess said:
I tried to register at CASAA several of times but get the same error everytime "Mismatched State/Province and Country." I tried every possibly combination possible to make it work, but get the same message. I live in Sweden btw.
I solved it! By not choosing my country on the list, just leaving it blank made it a succsess! Yay! :)
Thank you for your persistance and determination, Puremess, and for joining CASAA. By posting your success, other international vapors now know how they may join to help expand CASAA's voice.

I wish to personally thank all of the ECF members who have recently joined CASAA. By doing so you have shown your knowledge and determination to keep electronic cigarettes legal and available to not only those of us that live in the United States, but to everyone in the entire world. Many countries follow in the footsteps in what the US does, and whatever happens from the upcoming FDA hearings will most certainly have an impact upon the rest of the world.

Please help myself and others to keep this important thread on the first page of the New Members Forum so that it does not get buried and lost. As pointed out, two individual states are currently under threat to lose their right to vape. These are real events happening now, and your state or country could be next.

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They stopped the import of Chinese vaping products including eliquid back in 2009. The shipments were confiscated in port. Threatening letters were sent to suppliers. That is no solution.

when they did bulk shipment yes. but normal post? i doubt they can crack down fully on every little parcel that goes through though. im sure there's a way around it.

if drugs and guns can make their way onto the shores of the states, whats a pv? :2c:

i'm not saying we stop the fight for the right to vape, but to be scared of a doomsday to the point of stocking up on litres of juice is a tad bit too excessive? even juices have expiry dates! haha
 
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when they did bulk shipment yes. but normal post? i doubt they can crack down fully on every little parcel that goes through though. im sure there's a way around it.

if drugs and guns can make their way onto the shores of the states, whats a pv? :2c:

i'm not saying we stop the fight for the right to vape, but to be scared of a doomsday to the point of stocking up on litres of juice is a tad bit too excessive? even juices have expiry dates! haha

Ask any Canadian how secure they are in ordering nic-liquid online and having it delivered to them via their postal service.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-forum/380682-my-battle-so-far-customs-health-canada.html
 
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Please help myself and others to keep this important thread on the first page of the New Members Forum so that it does not get buried and lost. As pointed out, two individual states are currently under threat to lose their right to vape. These are real events happening now, and your state or country could be next.

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With every member on ECF having an interest in e-cigarettes, there is NO excuse why every one of you should not already be a member.

Well said, the Lady that educated me and helped upgrade my hubby and I got us into the CASAA. I think people would be surprised that an email to your senator does get attention. Will it work? I am a pessimist wanting to be proved wrong...

But if we do nothing, say nothing special interest groups will get their way and us folks who rely on this as a healthier alternative will be left in the dust. Our side needs to be heard.
 

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when they did bulk shipment yes. but normal post? i doubt they can crack down fully on every little parcel that goes through though. im sure there's a way around it.

if drugs and guns can make their way onto the shores of the states, whats a pv? :2c:

i'm not saying we stop the fight for the right to vape, but to be scared of a doomsday to the point of stocking up on litres of juice is a tad bit too excessive? even juices have expiry dates! haha

The Feds are not ignorant. They have already identified the main suppliers of eliquid outside the US. All they have to do is screen all packages from those groups regardless of size of package to a holding area for examination which would take months. Couple that with restrictions on who can buy nicotine and the industry will be crippled.
 

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when they did bulk shipment yes. but normal post? i doubt they can crack down fully on every little parcel that goes through though. im sure there's a way around it.

if drugs and guns can make their way onto the shores of the states, whats a pv? :2c:

i'm not saying we stop the fight for the right to vape, but to be scared of a doomsday to the point of stocking up on litres of juice is a tad bit too excessive? even juices have expiry dates! haha

"Every little parcel," no. Enough of them, yes. They certainly grabbed their fair share of mine when I was buying Marbs from overseas.
 

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Please help myself and others to keep this important thread on the first page of the New Members Forum so that it does not get buried and lost. As pointed out, two individual states are currently under threat to lose their right to vape. These are real events happening now, and your state or country could be next.

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as you wish...:toast:
 

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The Feds are not ignorant. They have already identified the main suppliers of eliquid outside the US. All they have to do is screen all packages from those groups regardless of size of package to a holding area for examination which would take months. Couple that with restrictions on who can buy nicotine and the industry will be crippled.

This happened when the USPS took it upon themselves to stop people from getting prescriptions online from Canada even though it was technically legal to import scripts for personal use, a 90day supply and not a restricted class of drug (like Soma, etc). It was a whack-a-mole game. Some were seized and some weren't. Suppliers took to disquising who they were with changing their company name on the return address - some had relatives or friends pick up and ship orders - on and on. Some turned to places like India which opened the market up for scammers that sent out inferior products or none at all. Most people are not willing to go to those lengths. Of course, it can be done but only for those willing and able to financially take the risks. This kind of game also contributes to stigma that e-cigs are something wrong, unhealthful, negative, and what not.

This will limit e-cigs from becoming a life saving product it is and interfere with market penatration (beyond what BT offers).

There is a good chance (IMHO) that e-cig products could be taxed to the point they cost the same as or more than analog smoking. There goes the myth that BT will help with e-cig adoption rates and popularity.

I suspect the reason e-cigs came under fire in the first place was due to smoking reduction rates. I thought I had heard that 2012 saw the biggest decline ever, around 12% loss in sales but I don't remember the source. I suspect a fair share of that has been the adoption of e-cigs due to the impovements made in devices. When I first started looking at them, the market wasn't anywhere near what it is today. Going back to 2007 devices would feel like being pushed back to the stone age. I'm not sure how many vapers would continue even after spending thousands on devices if they had to sneak around like they were ordering steroids or something harmful or illegal (oops, it would be illegal).

One of the benefits of e-cigs is not having to sneak around and out the back door, around the corner, across the street to vape in order to protect others from stinking smelling smoke or having a pocketful of butts to discard later.

I played whack-a-mole with legal prescribtions for awhile. It wasn't fun and I was lucky none were siezed and they were all good. It didn't take long to rather do without.
 

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There is a good chance (IMHO) that e-cig products could be taxed to the point they cost the same as or more than analog smoking. There goes the myth that BT will help with e-cig adoption rates and popularity.
Agreed. Anti-smokers have been successful using statistics to say that taxation = fewer smokers. The same strategy will be used on e-cigarettes - at the very least. Should we all gather and dump our e-liquid in the river?
 

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Join CASSA today !
It's free...unless you would like to make a donation.
It helps to show the Vaping is not some weird fringe thing.
There is more power in numbers.
They will help You..when your state try's to squash your Vaping rights.

DJ RyckRak says.....POWER TO THE PEOPLE !!! JOIN CASSA NOW !!!
 

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I wouldn't go as far as saying they're ignorant, I would rather refer to it as greed. They want tax revenues, in a nut shell. They don't care if you die, or cigarettes would already be illegal.

The Feds are not ignorant. They have already identified the main suppliers of eliquid outside the US. All they have to do is screen all packages from those groups regardless of size of package to a holding area for examination which would take months. Couple that with restrictions on who can buy nicotine and the industry will be crippled.
 
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