Sick of the hysteria

[legbuh]

I say no biggie if they do. One of a couple things will happen:

1. You'll be able to get them from RJR or another big baccy company in the future
2. You'll always be able to get them from overseas (I get absinthe from there, and those companies say if it gets stopped at customs you get a full refund)

Don't sweat it. There's always a way. It just may cost a little more.

 

[chad]

Amen. 'Loose lips sink ships' and all of that...

You mean anonymous blathering, incendiary typing, and raving rants can be a bad thing?

 

[chad]

1. You'll be able to get them from RJR or another big baccy company in the future

No. This will never happen. tobacco companies have no interest in e-cigs.

2. You'll always be able to get them from overseas (I get absinthe from there, and those companies say if it gets stopped at customs you get a full refund)

Yes - and the good companies will do that!

 

[jexmex]

You know I am not trying to see that we should not have freedom to speak our minds on these topics, but some of the people on this (and other non e-cig related topics even) seem to think the sky is falling anytime somebody in the government sneezes. WE ARE THE PEOPLE, and WE AS THE PEOPLE need to take back over what is OUR GOVERNMENT!

I will be the first to admit, the government does as it pleases, but why? Because we are all to busy watching spongebob and eating potato chips. And yes, it does take a lot of time for the government to do most things!

 

[chad]

I will be the first to admit, the government does as it pleases, but why? Because we are all to busy watching spongebob and eating potato chips. And yes, it does take a lot of time for the government to do most things!

I resent this statement. I eat Cheetos!

 

[Kent C]

You mean anonymous blathering, incendiary typing, and raving rants can be a bad thing?

In a normal market, no. And even in this market I wouldn't ever stop it even if I could. Just that people be aware of what they say could be used against them by people who would love to shut the industry down. And still certain verified 'heads up' can help for planning for the future.

 

[Hangtime]

I agree that people need to calm down about the "ban". The FDA is good at 2 things: Telling people something is good for you then telling you it is bad and.... damn, cant remember the other, ok, good for one thing. All we can do is promote e-cigs and get others to look at them in the same way we do. We need to hold some events that will get the public to look at e-cigs in a positive manner and dismiss the news propaganda.

This is the new way of smoking and we need to get together and show the world what it is all about. This forum is great but we need to take this to a new level. I see some groups on here getting together and having meetings in restaurants and bars. This is the correct approach to meet our goal of acceptance. We need suppliers to sponsor marathons, races, cancer charities and so forth. This would be a big step.There are ways to get past this bad media and faulty reports by the FDA, but honestly we need some financial backers to do this.

I found e-cigs on a quest to find cheaper tobacco and the day I got my e-cig I gave my pack of analogs away. I don't have the urge to smoke anymore and can go all day without my PV. I smoked a pack or more a day for 21+ years and can't believe the transformation I have gone though. I love my PV but I don't feel like I even need it rather that I just enjoy puffing on it while drinking a few beers.

Cheers, Hangtime.

 

[JimStanmore]

I was drawn to this thread because shortly after I found ecigs two weeks ago (thank goodness SmokeAssassin got me investigating and I am on day 4 of my Innovapor 510
,) I started reading the forums. There was great info for a newbie, but I became depressed by the "doom and gloom" posts. You see, every time I had found somehing promising in the past, the American Cancer Society, et al, killed it it before I could use it and now it was going to happen to ecigs.

I just know that right when I started getting involved in PG vs VG or battery life or health improvements or juice flavors I would run into a story about the FDA or a distributor having problems. Yes, I am concerned because this is working for me across the board in a big way. But even though it is ostrich-like, outside of spreading the word to as many people as I can, I would prefer not to spend time dwelling on something I can't really change. (Please don't fire up the blow torches...)

I may wish to be naive, but I am not blind, though. Here's a little history:


Nova talks about the tobacco company research efforts on "safer cigarettes"
pbs.org/wgbh/nova/cigarette/history2.html

R.J. Reynolds first attempt, the Premier:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_(cigarette)

R.J. Reynolds tries gain:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(cigarette)

 

[jexmex]

Very interesting articles, thanks.

This was interesting

Philip Morris is testing its own high-tech cigarette called Accord, which has been described as a cigarette encased in a kazoo-shaped lighter. Consumers buy a $40 kit that includes a battery charger, a puff-activated lighter that holds the cigarette, and a carton of special cigarettes. To smoke the cigarettes, a smoker sucks on the kazoolike box. A microchip senses the puff and sends a burst of heat to the cigarette. The process gives the smoker one drag and does not create ashes or smoke. An illuminated display shows the number of puffs remaining, and the batteries must be recharged after every pack. It's unclear whether smokers will find the low-smoke and -ash benefits desirable enough to justify learning an entirely new smoking ritual. Although Philip Morris doesn't make health claims about Accord, the company in 1998 told the Society of Toxicology that Accord generated 83 percent fewer toxins than a regular cigarette.

 

[jexmex]

found a video of it, but its not he same, same kind of concept, but it still burns the tobacco

Accord Philip Morris New Device Puff Activated Lighter 1997.mp4

 

[Scaralouche]

I say no biggie if they do. One of a couple things will happen:

1. You'll be able to get them from RJR or another big baccy company in the future
2. You'll always be able to get them from overseas (I get absinthe from there, and those companies say if it gets stopped at customs you get a full refund)

Don't sweat it. There's always a way. It just may cost a little more.

absinthe is legal in the USA, as long as its thujone content is below a certain limit set by the govt. why would you have to worry about importation? all reputable modern absinthes meet or are well under the limit. if youre talking about czechsinthe drek in a bottle, why are you drinking that? its just green tinted vodka with some absinthe essence in there for flavoring. i imagine your tastes are better than that though. do you bring pre-ban absinthe in? if so, we gotta talk!

 

[JimStanmore]

Neat. I forgot about the Accord. What I think makes a difference this time, though, is that smokers have been choosing and finding ecigs for themselves. We need some senators or their relatives to make the switch and see the benefits for themselves. If the VA (Veterans Administration) could be convinced to do a study that would really be great because they are always looking for ways to reduce health costs. They are the ones that discovered that medicine expiration dates weren't very useful in most cases. By testing expired medications, they found that almost all were still in great shape shape for quite a while after expiration; they stopped automatically throwing away millions of dollars just because of a date. (Any psychology students out there looking for an end of course paper or an independent research project?)

So, as others have said, "power to the people!"

 

[wHack]

I think w have the Governor of Florida does that help?