Sigelei 100W or IPV3

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Cullin Kin

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P4Y said the YiHI firmware upgrade (for the ipv3) will be 180 by the holidays. Download file, hook up USB and ready to go. (Hopefully more effective than the cloupor disaster.) Supposedly you can customize the boot up screen to show you name or something like that too.

As far as the question about how high i run my ipv3... It depends on my rda build. I have built down to .2 and run 150w. Not my preference but still a good vape. I typically build around .5 though. On my tanks i obviously use much less wattage.

Awesome, thank you! What exactly was the nightmare with the Cloupor update?

I have the IPV2 and will pick up the IPV 3 when it is in stock. I had a Sigelei 100W in my hands today and it's nice but I like the IPV design better. The Sigelei 100W also does not allow USB charging and the IPV3 does which I really like, use it on my IPV2 now.

The one thing I like is there is really no need for sub-ohming. I have a dual coil @ 1.4 ohms (shows 5.6V) on the IPV2 right now and the flavor and vapor is insane. It heats up fast, there is no delay and it's a nice warm vapor, not hot.

Thank you! I'm really starting to lean towards the IPV 3. I've been monitoring 5 sites every day to see that 'in stock' icon to pop up.
 

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Awesome, thank you! What exactly was the nightmare with the Cloupor update?

I think it was the T5, upgrading from 50 to 75 (don't quote me on that) watts.

You can probably find more detailed info by Googling/doing an ECF search, but there was a non-negligible probability that your Cloupor would be rendered unusable/physically destroyed from the update. It seemed to hit coils with a huge voltage for a short period after hitting the button, so coils didn't need time to "ramp up". This made things pretty bad for a lot of folks; insta-burning, and so forth. There was also a report or two of devices basically melting from the heat of going above the original wattage. There was a little blame tossed around, and a "factory rollback" update had to be pulled, because it too caused some problems. Also, batteries would go from displaying 80% charge to 0% in a hit or two. It was ... a disaster indeed.
 

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I think it was the T5, upgrading from 50 to 75 (don't quote me on that) watts.

You can probably find more detailed info by Googling/doing an ECF search, but there was a non-negligible probability that your Cloupor would be rendered unusable/physically destroyed from the update. It seemed to hit coils with a huge voltage for a short period after hitting the button, so coils didn't need time to "ramp up". This made things pretty bad for a lot of folks; insta-burning, and so forth. There was also a report or two of devices basically melting from the heat of going above the original wattage. There was a little blame tossed around, and a "factory rollback" update had to be pulled, because it too caused some problems. Also, batteries would go from displaying 80% charge to 0% in a hit or two. It was ... a disaster indeed.

Sounds like it! That makes mew nervous about the T8, even though it wasn't even one of the choices. I think it's going to be the IPV3 for me! If it will ever become available...
 

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Sounds like it! That makes mew nervous about the T8, even though it wasn't even one of the choices. I think it's going to be the IPV3 for me! If it will ever become available...

Same here, just waiting for them to hit the market. The only other one I have been looking at is the SMY GOD 180 but that takes 3 - 18650's and seems like it would be a bit much to pocket. That was the only one the local B&M didn't have in the shop today.

The guy behind the counter had the IPV3 but it looked like a prototype, they didn't have any in stock. The wanted $126 for the Sigelei 50W so I probably won't be picking up anything from that ship ;)
 

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I recently purchased the Sigelei 100watt. I was in the same boat as you,"what box mod to get?", I watched and read many reviews. I was looking for a mod that I could switch batteries out of, my Vaporshark Dna30 is awesome, but just doesn't last me all day at work. So far, I am EXTREMELY happy!!! I could care less about the 100 watts (ok, I tried 50 just to do it lol), but at 30-35 watts, I could vape 2 days without switching batts. I can't speak on the IPV, but I know the Sigelei seems to be (had it for about a week now) a quality device, and I am super happy with it so far. Theres also a warranty from Sigelei. Can't charge it, have to charge the batteries only, but that doesn't bother me any. Hardly have to charge em lol. I paid 98 dollars, I bought mine from the same place as Twisted420, and used his coupon code. Had it in a lil less than a week. Either way you go, I'm sure you'll be happy, they both seem to review well. Good luck happy vaping
 

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If still on the fence, I'd recommend waiting a bit. The first run of Sigelei 100w's seems to have an issue with the 510 adjustable pin not making consistent connection when adjusted out. Mine is running fine, but I don't like that 510 connection - very glad it came with additional pins; I'll be needing them at some point. The copper is soft, so atties with screw-head 510 connections cause some scratching and wear on the Sigelei pin. It's my understanding that the 510 connection is going to be changed.

Other than that, it's running great. Not as pocket friendly as the IPV2, but plenty more power and battery life. The magnetic back is a huge plus - though there's no USB charging, swapping batteries is a breeze. Buttons are nice, including the fire button, which is significantly larger and more comfortable to operate than the IPV2. Not crazy about the design, though. It's just a straight up box, not very interesting to look at or hold. I threw a vinyl wrap on it, and it's 10x better IMO.
 

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I have the IPV3, and I have to say, ... i Love my IPV2.

Yeah, you read that right. I love my IPV TWO. IPV 3, not so much.

Oh, The IPV3 is nice, but it's bigger, the fire button sucks ( its like pressing a ball bearing) and it has 1&1/2 useless features, and 1 pain in the ...., annoyance.

Useless feature 1: it has a touch sensor that does nothing, not hooked up to anything, it would have looked better without it, since it does nothing.
The 1/2 Useless feature : the mini USB port. You can't charge the battery in Mod like you can the IPV2, it's only for software updates.

The annoyance : the memory settings. Too easy to access them. Pop up at stupid times. Yeah I know, ultimately user error, but too easily accessed.

Just looking at the Sigelei, it has a more thumb friendly button.

The only thing that I like about the IPV3 over the IPV2 is, inexplicable as it is, because this should have no bearing on 2 batteries in series, is, the IPV3 seems to last a lot longer. Theorey may be well and good, but I know the evidence of my own eyes.

Just some farts in the wind.
 

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I prefer the Sigelei over the IPV2. Over a full day of battery life (dual efest 2500mah) when pushing 35-40 watts, magnetic battery cover, comfortable button, no silly extra features like a touch sensor or memory settings. The only thing I don't like is the design. Way too boring, there isn't a single detail, line or aesthetic detail to mitigate the fact that it's a big, boring, straight up box.

The adjustable 510 pins on the first ones sucked, but they fixed that, from what I've heard. I've gone through a few of the spares already; the copper is just way too soft. Gets chewed up, doesn't maintain tight tolerances, results in ohm readings all over the place with short 510 devices.

BOOM!
 

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I have the IPV3, and I have to say, ... i Love my IPV2.

Yeah, you read that right. I love my IPV TWO. IPV 3, not so much.

Oh, The IPV3 is nice, but it's bigger, the fire button sucks ( its like pressing a ball bearing) and it has 1&1/2 useless features, and 1 pain in the ...., annoyance.

Useless feature 1: it has a touch sensor that does nothing, not hooked up to anything, it would have looked better without it, since it does nothing.
The 1/2 Useless feature : the mini USB port. You can't charge the battery in Mod like you can the IPV2, it's only for software updates.

The annoyance : the memory settings. Too easy to access them. Pop up at stupid times. Yeah I know, ultimately user error, but too easily accessed.

Just looking at the Sigelei, it has a more thumb friendly button.

The only thing that I like about the IPV3 over the IPV2 is, inexplicable as it is, because this should have no bearing on 2 batteries in series, is, the IPV3 seems to last a lot longer. Theorey may be well and good, but I know the evidence of my own eyes.

Just some farts in the wind.

Thanks! You make some great points.

I prefer the Sigelei over the IPV2. Over a full day of battery life (dual efest 2500mah) when pushing 35-40 watts, magnetic battery cover, comfortable button, no silly extra features like a touch sensor or memory settings. The only thing I don't like is the design. Way too boring, there isn't a single detail, line or aesthetic detail to mitigate the fact that it's a big, boring, straight up box.

The adjustable 510 pins on the first ones sucked, but they fixed that, from what I've heard. I've gone through a few of the spares already; the copper is just way too soft. Gets chewed up, doesn't maintain tight tolerances, results in ohm readings all over the place with short 510 devices.

BOOM!

All of the stuff about the pin, thats for the Sigelei?
 

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Hey Cullen,

I have been extremely happy with my Sigelie zmax v3. It's been tough as nails and going on a year of adv'ing. That's just a props for the mfg.

#1 most important thing to me is the the mod be able to take stacked or parallel batteries. I absolutely will not by any mod that doesn't use two batteries. The option of using stacked 18350 in the zmax almost triples my *usable battery run time Over a single 18650! A single battery has too much voltage drop to reach peak power when it starts to get below 3.6. Parallel 18650 I am confident can vape circles around a single battery @ 100w. If tested at a certain wattage I expect that it will last about 2-3 times longer than a single cell before the power starts to fade. If you set for 80w it better give me 80w cause if it drops to 70 the battery is getting pulled and replaced.

#2 - The Sigelie's have been using some smart chips. Look at the zmax v5, it displays the actual power level your achieving at the atomizer when fires not the power setting you chose. It is very accurate.

So to the gentleman worried about running a protected battery at 100w. I'm gonna guess that the chip will sense the low current battery and reduce power or not fire at all.

I hope sigelie does come out with some nicer mods in the 100w and I surely hope they use the indestructible stainless 510 connection they use on the v3 because that's a necessity too.
 
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Sense a low current/amp limit battery? I doubt it. The only thing the board is going to detect is how much voltage the batteries are supplying. The board doesn't detect anything about the composition or capabilities of the battery, just how much power is coming from them.

I would not recommend using any battery with less than 20 amp continuous rating if using for high wattage (>50w). The mod has battery vents for a reason, and ICRs have protection circuits for a reason (to hopefully prevent an explosion).

BOOM!
 

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I got my IPV3 two days ago and I'm really enjoying it. I run a 0.22ohm dual coil at 75watts and its a great vape IMO. I have zero intention of taking it to 150watts ever; I'm just of the opinion that just because it can, doesn't always mean it should. Other peoples' opinions on this will vary and it's all good, of course.

I have zero experience with any other box mod as the IPV3 is my first in the class. I'm giving it a thumbs up though.
 

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I ran 100 watts with this build. It was nuts ! 1mm ribbon with 3 strands of 3 mm silica. The best RDA for the Sigelei 100 is the CLV plus by Infinite. It has everything !
 

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I ran 100 watts with this build. It was nuts ! 1mm ribbon with 3 strands of 3 mm silica. The best RDA for the Sigelei 100 is the CLV plus by Infinite. It has everything !

lol that's awesome! I've had my eye on the CLV for a while, especially the V2 which combines my three favorite RDA's.

I've come to a decision about the box mod and I don't think I will be getting one. I just don't have any use, and in my particular case, it would just be a waste of money. I had a bad case of shinyitis there for a while, but actually was able to see the light. For me, I definitely notic a difference between the vapor that a regulated puts off vs a mech. I don't think I'll be able to stop using my mechs for my lower resistance vaping, I just luhs that vapor too much. I run my Kayfun's on my 30W Cana, so if that ever breaks down, then I will have an actual excuse lol.
 

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You can build ↓ to .1 on the new Sigelei 150 watt box. After watching many reviews about the T8 and the IPV3, I've come to the conclusion that they're just nicely packaged junk. Neither are able to fulfill their promised specs. The review that pbusardo did about the Sigelei 100 watt showed that it does what it says it will do. He even vape with it at 100 watts. In waiting for the Sigelei 150 watt, which should be out around 12/12. I believe that is going to be the best unit on the market.
 

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I REALLY like my Sigelei 100W (I have the "Project Sub-Ohm" version from VaporDNA) and I'm super glad I picked it over the IPV3. I totally love the IPV2S that my wife stole from me and uses daily, because it allows pass-through charging using the USB port. So, a single 18650 is plenty. However, for a dual 18650 box, where the batteries have to be changed (alas, the IPV3 FAILED to include the onboard charger that the IPV2S had) I much prefer the magnetic door on my Sigelei. I haven't even bothered to try the screws that came with it - why would I? The magnets keep the door perfectly secure. I vape a LOT (all day) and I can get 1.5 days out of my Sigelei using anywhere from a .3-.5 ohm build. It's a great device. I've had it for over a month and, running a large ranch, I'm pretty hard on stuff and I work in a dirty and dusty environment - it is standing up to everything I've thrown at it......or thrown IT at! LOL!
 
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