Sigelei 213 owners thread

[Aaron Peik]

It's so disappointing.. the form factor, the way it feels in your hand, the fact that it can handle 24/25mm atties and still look like a million bucks, mine works awesome, just wish everyone elses did. Kind of makes me wonder if mine is going to fail at some point. Im using 24g stainless steel 316L wire from master of clouds, i can only assume it's actually 316L though since i have no way of telling besides the decal on the wire.

Are you using premade coils?

 

[Darthtanien]

are u using 316 or 316L? I have TCR set at 92 for 316L vaping at 420W with preheat of around 30W for 1 sec and its a nice vape.

I have tried 316, 316L,304 and more. The default values from Sigelei on the main menu seem to be just 316. I use 316L @ 92 @ 400 glows the coils. The default TFR settings they use are actually for 316L. Same results.

 

[Aaron Peik]

From what I can tell.. if you think your tcr is working.. it probably isn't. Try setting preheat to 70-100 watts for .01 secs.. fire that sucker @ 200 degrees then fire it at 570.. its literally acting like it's just in power mode on mine while in tcr. You can alternatively set it to 10 watts preheat for .01 and try the same thing.

 

[Darthtanien]

are u using 316 or 316L? I have TCR set at 92 for 316L vaping at 420W with preheat of around 30W for 1 sec and its a nice vape.

@30 watts you are probably only vaping in power mode and the device is not regulating on temp. 30watts in power mode will probably give you the same nice vape. Problem is it is not regulating. Set the Preheat (which is not really a preheat in temp mode) to @100 for .01 or something. And you will see it doesn't regulate the temperature. It should start @100 for .01 sec than regulate down to the value to keep it a the set temperature.

 

[Darthtanien]

From what I can tell.. if you think your tcr is working.. it probably isn't. Try setting preheat to 70-100 watts for .01 secs.. fire that sucker @ 200 degrees then fire it at 570.. its literally acting like it's just in power mode on mine while in tcr. You can alternatively set it to 10 watts preheat for .01 and try the same thing.

We typed that @ the same time.LOL

 

[Aaron Peik]

Great minds haha. Also if you have a working 316 mode.. or TFR, the preheat acts as a wattage ceiling. Set it to 10 and it'll never get to set temp

 

[Darthtanien]

Great minds haha. Also if you have a working 316 mode.. or TFR, the preheat acts as a wattage ceiling. Set it to 10 and it'll never get to set temp

Yep. That's what you and me both sent at the same time to the last guy.lol

 

[Darthtanien]

These things just don't work right. I can take the same build from my DNA-200 mods to my Joyteck's to my Yihi,s and they all work as expected. Move the same build off one of them to this mod and they do not work. Power mode yes but anything else is bad to fail.

 

[Aaron Peik]

These are flying off the shelves due to thier looks and size.. hopefully sigelei doesn't pull some snow wolf shi' and be like oh here's V 1.5. These were billed everywhere as upgradeable firmware, yet not word on sigelei's site about it anywhere. Now mine does seem to work in 316 mode, but the idea of not being able to use all the features kinda irk's me, also there's apparently alot of people that have unit's that don't function at all. Such a perfect mod.. hopefully they fix this fast.

 

[gerry034]

@30 watts you are probably only vaping in power mode and the device is not regulating on temp. 30watts in power mode will probably give you the same nice vape. Problem is it is not regulating. Set the Preheat (which is not really a preheat in temp mode) to @100 for .01 or something. And you will see it doesn't regulate the temperature. It should start @100 for .01 sec than regulate down to the value to keep it a the set temperature.

New user here and I just got this Mod last week and TCR does not seem like it regulates at all and I agree, if you think you're TCR is working it might not be working see below.

Two things I've found regarding the TCR settings on the Sigelei 213:

(1) TCR settings: I will use Stainless 316 as an example. For Stainless (316) is listed on Steam-Engine at .00088 other sources have it 0.00092. Regardless of what you choose for your TCR, the important to thing to note is that on the 213 (at least for mine), it only has *four* places to the right of the decimal point and therefore there is not enough room to put 0.00092 or 0.00088. In other words you cannot enter .00092 or .00088; you can either enter "0.0008" or "0.0009. So if you're entering 0.0092 or 0.0088 you're entering a way too high TCR (higher than Ni200) for stainless.
I have tried both settings 0.0009 and 0.0092 and if I fire the mod at 0.0009 at 200F (preheat 27.5w, 0.25 seconds) I get nothing. If I enter 0.0092 and fire it at 200F (preheat 27.5 0.25 seconds) it fires as if I had the mod way cranked up. The user manual, I note, is totally silent on how to compensate for the lack of the fifth spot to the right of the decimal point.

(2) Second issue, probably worse than the above, is that TCR is totally unregulated. Even if I set my TCR properly at 0.0009 for Stainless, and then I up my preheat to 150W for 0.1 seconds and set my temp at 300F, I get a burned hit.

Btw, I'm using prebuilt 1.0 ohm SS316 coils for Joyetech Cubis tank, which works fine on the Cuboid (as you would expect given they're both made by the same company) with a resistance reading of 1.08 ohms.

Unfortunately I don't have a solution, but did want to chime in about the TCR probably not working quite right.

 

[rice721]

Just tried what those 2 members were saying and they are right. TCR (haven't tried TFR) doesn't seem to work on this thing. Set the TCR to .00092 for SS316L, preheat to 90~100W at 0.1secs, temperature set to 200F = burnt hit, no temperature regulation.

However, if you set the temp control to one of the presets 316, preheat set to 90~100W at 0.1secs, temperature set to 200F = little to no vaper, yes temperature regulation.

So the preset in TC mode are working just not TCR. Have yet to try TFR.

 

[Aaron Peik]

Gerry is dead right about the TCR missing a digit. If you use stainless steel 316 go into TCR and set it as .0009 and try between 260-340F, it actually regulates the tempeture, although it seems way wrong temp wise it does work. You can use the same setting's and turn it down to around 200-240 and get almost no vapor, or turn it up past 330 and get a ......ed hot vape, but it's controlled it appears.

 

[Carnage9270]

A lot of mods only use a 4 digit TCR value. 0092 is the way to use a four digit TCR.

 

[Aaron Peik]

Well this one doesn't function. At all if you use the supplied 4 decimal places.

 

[JLR9]

One thing I found while messing with it in my office. I can get it to show the jumbled up screen just about every time when I push the up button and the fire button at the exact same time. And it won't show up jumbled if I push the up button for a fraction of a second before pushing the fire button.

I've somewhat tested the TCR on this SS coil in my Crown, and set it to 0.0009 and 460F. Preheat at 50W and it seems to be doing pretty good.

 

[MegaVap]

TC does not work on mine. Tried 316l and ni200 @ 220 degrees, presets and TCR, no regulation, well it read that is was giving 2 watts but the cotton still glowed and burned. What's really going on with this mod?

 

[Nailz]

Glad I am only using power mode with mine, but the odd misfire is a little annoying, if didn't like the look and feel of it so much, would of put it in the collect dust draw, not bothering to return mine, as they mostly all seem the same.

Very disappointing for the price of the mod, not like one of the cheap $30-$50 mod, at the price they are selling, would expect it to work as it is meant too, and not holding much hope of a fix from a update, as sig not one to do updates.

 

[Haylon357]

I was going to buy a few of these. But after reading here and listening to others about the cons, I will just pull the trigger on a Q class. I hope everyone gets their problems addressed and resolved. This is such a shame.

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[nelsonm64]

really sorry you guys are having these problems!!! sigelei better get their .... in gear and fix this asap! I was about to order one until the problem flood gate opened... I expected more from sigelei!

 

[gerry034]

I think it's a great mod in terms of form factor and build quality. I just think they were a little too ambitious with the feature set. I'm sure the FDA regs made them release this sooner than they wanted to. I also believe that most, if not all, of the problems can be fixed with firmware updates. It's just a matter of if and when Sigelei releases these updates.