Sigelei Telescope + Phoenix V3 RBA

[Wish]

Greetings,

I recently visited the local shop for my additional CGR battery. While I was there, I decided to ask the owner to check my resistance of my new build on the Phoenix V3. When he screwed it on his Provari, it wouldn't display ohms. He said this meant that my resistance was too low to display and it could be around 0.5 or lower. What does this mean and what are the risks? He mentioned something about straining my battery. If there are risks of damaging my battery, I won't think twice of rebuilding immediately.

My current build is 4loops of wire on 2folds of wick. Not really sure about the size of my wire yet but how can I build it to a safe resistance and power performance?

 

[fanatic205]

I do 3/4 wraps of 28ga wire on my DID and smok telescope that nets me .6 to. 8 ohms. I havent had any problems and been using this setup for three months

If your happy with the performance you have now stick with it. I personally cant stand anything higher than 1ohm on genny attys.

PS: get a multimeter

 

[Wish]

I do 3/4 wraps of 28ga wire on my DID and smok telescope that nets me .6 to. 8 ohms. I havent had any problems and been using this setup for three months

If your happy with the performance you have now stick with it. I personally cant stand anything higher than 1ohm on genny attys.

PS: get a multimeter

I do but it doesn't work well or I just don't know how to use it. The multi meter my dad has has been with us since I was little so it's a bit oldschool. Either way, how do I increase resistance? I don't know what size of wire I'm using so I just need to know how to increase resistance.

 

[fanatic205]

More wraps around the wick increases the resitance. I wouldnt worry about it if the device your using is working with the atty and your happy with the vape. Just because a provari couldnt read your ohms doesnt mean your doing something wrong. I prefer mechanical PV's over VV/VW for RBA's.

Having a .6ohm coil on your atty will only cause your battery to drain faster than say a 1.4ohm atty. Your battery isnt going to be damaged etc running a low ohm atty

 

[Hello World]

I do but it doesn't work well or I just don't know how to use it. The multi meter my dad has has been with us since I was little so it's a bit oldschool. Either way, how do I increase resistance? I don't know what size of wire I'm using so I just need to know how to increase resistance.

I second what f205 said. Learn how to use an ohm/multimeter.

 

[Wish]

I second what f205 said. Learn how to use an ohm/multimeter.

People kept saying its straining the battery and would kill it if I keep on straining it. I just don't want my CGRs to die this early because they cost a lot. A multi meter is on my buy list but I have no budget for it yet. Hopefully, I'll be able to get a proper digital one in about a week or two.

What's weird is I used a .20 kanthal wire using 4 tight loops evenly spaced about 1.5mm each on 4 strands of wick and the provari couldn't detect the resistance. I was expecting about 1-1.3ohms. I recently rebuilt it and added a loop but spacing is now probably at 1mm each. Vapor production is decreased a lot and my 18350s doesn't last as long as before.

 

[DSmooch]

I think its best to stick to what the provari can read... ie. 0.8 ohm. Also, depending on the battery technology u use, your risks are a bit more than draining the bats if you see what I'm getting at. I mean, a hard short on an unprotected bat that is not IMR...opps... where's my hand. Keep in mind that low res vaping is OK if you have the tools and know what your doing. Just add a couple of wraps until you get a meter. The point here is: vape safe bro.
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[Wish]

I'm aiming for 1-1.3ohms and I'm going to rebuild again. Since I already bought a multi meter, I can check resistance by probing the two poles on the Phoenix right? Because probing the center pin at the bottom and the thread is kind of hard without some type of clamp to hold it still.

 

[fanatic205]

I'm aiming for 1-1.3ohms and I'm going to rebuild again. Since I already bought a multi meter, I can check resistance by probing the two poles on the Phoenix right? Because probing the center pin at the bottom and the thread is kind of hard without some type of clamp to hold it still.

your probally going to need like 7 wraps to hit that 1.3ohm rating, and you probally wont like the vape if you added 1 extra wrap and already noticed a big change in vapor production..

I would think going with higher resistance would strain your battery more because it will take longer to heat the coils and you will be taking longer draws to get more vapor. A .5 ohm vs 1.3 ohm will not stress your battery anymore tgan normal. It is the batterys job to be under stress when you fire your PV

Like i said earlier just because a provari couldnt read your ohms does not mean your doing anythibg wrong. I think VV/VW devices are a pain with RBA's. If your telescope fires you have no hotspots, the vapor and flavor are good for you then go with that setup. Dont let some guy with a provari or lack of battery knowledge discourage you.

 

[Wish]

So apparently I was tightening the coils too much. I recently rebuilt my coil and it read 1.5-1.6 ohms on my multi meter. Here's how it looks now. Not exactly dragon's breath for vapor production but its pretty good for everyday usage. Flavor is also full and tastes as good as my vivi nova paired with a variable, just not as warm which is a good thing.

 

[WillyB]

Greetings,

I recently visited the local shop for my additional CGR battery. While I was there, I decided to ask the owner to check my resistance of my new build on the Phoenix V3. When he screwed it on his Provari, it wouldn't display ohms. He said this meant that my resistance was too low to display and it could be around 0.5 or lower. What does this mean...

It means a shop that doesn't even have a $10 meter to actually test resistance should not be allowed to deal in RBAs.

 

[LongDraw]

Sorry if this is already known. But the reason you may have two different readings in that picture is it looks like the picture on the left has more wick material then the picture on the right, which would cause you to use more wire.

Overall, it is the length of wire you use which determines the resistance. If you use one strand of wick compared to two strands, the two strands will cause you to use a little more wire.

Since I only use 3.5 mm silica wick, I know that 6 wraps of 30 will always get me around 1.6 to 1.8 ohms, if I added a 2mm piece of wick at the coil, then the same number of wraps would give me a little more ohms.

Again sorry if this was already noted, just wanted to try and help.

So apparently I was tightening the coils too much. I recently rebuilt my coil and it read 1.5-1.6 ohms on my multi meter. Here's how it looks now. Not exactly dragon's breath for vapor production but its pretty good for everyday usage. Flavor is also full and tastes as good as my vivi nova paired with a variable, just not as warm which is a good thing.

 

[Wish]

It means a shop that doesn't even have a $10 meter to actually test resistance should not be allowed to deal in RBAs.

They only use variable mods to check resistance. I bought a cheap one and it works pretty fine. It could be inaccurate but it helps.

Sorry if this is already known. But the reason you may have two different readings in that picture is it looks like the picture on the left has more wick material then the picture on the right, which would cause you to use more wire.

Overall, it is the length of wire you use which determines the resistance. If you use one strand of wick compared to two strands, the two strands will cause you to use a little more wire.

Since I only use 3.5 mm silica wick, I know that 6 wraps of 30 will always get me around 1.6 to 1.8 ohms, if I added a 2mm piece of wick at the coil, then the same number of wraps would give me a little more ohms.

Again sorry if this was already noted, just wanted to try and help.

It's a before and after photo of the same build. I cut off the ends of the wick so it could fit facing down on the Phoenix V3 without it sticking out the threads.

 

[in4mati0n11]

Next time try taking the two bows (loops) pull them together over top of your coil and tie them together with a small pice of wire... You will go longer between fill ups (drips) because you've increased the capacity...

 

[y cherry y]

Harbor Freight has a decent usable meter for five bucks.