Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

[aikanae1]

This thread remains focused on the subject of the Sigelei Zmax telescopic V3 and V5. As much as I might like to see other Sigelei models listed, there have been other threads posted in the VV APV forum in the past regarding Sigelei models: 30W, 50W, 100W, 150W, etc., etc., etc. These models have little to do with the Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 other than the brand name. V2 and Mini are included in this thread because relatively few of these similar models were sold or the previous ECF forums for these devices have died. So, let's keep this thread on topic. It's about the Sigelei Zmax telescopic V3 and V5, with a lesser focus on the Sigelei Zmax V2 and the Sigelei Zmax Mini which share similar electronics and build qualities. smok brand Zmax APVs are vastly different from the Sigelei counterparts and are not discussed on this forum.

I'd rather see this thread die rather than to have it become a general purpose Sigelei-smok APV forum or a flag-waving chit-chat kitty-cat photo forum like the Provape forum. So there, I said it. If this thread ends up on page 32 of the APV VV forum I'm fine with that. Don't expect me to check in if it does.

The Sigelei V3 and V5 proved itself to be the equal of the Provari V1-V2.5 at much less cost with the same or better degree of reliability or serviceability. Maybe the time for 5-15W tube mods is past with the latest vaping generation. I'm fine with that.

Like boats and Tmax's?

It's one thing to allow a few posts to slide off topic; that might even be considered friendly and neighborly, and a whole other issue when it devolves into many pages of rambling or a deals page or fans of Sig thread.

This group has weathered interruptions before without harm. However I fully understand your fear. There's a number of hardware specific threads that routinely get hijacked into nonsensical gibberish such that it makes no point in asking a sincere question in them. One I'm thinking of requires sifting through about 10 pages of posts per hour. It's useless.

This thread has a huge body of information and history on the Zmax line. I don't think anyone wants to see that diluted or buried. I think you can rest comfortably.

I agree that the 30w seems like a good one and has step down for us lower wattage vapers that the higher wattage mods don't have. That's my understanding. I don't find box square shapes comfortable to hold. The Zmax tube wins. The legend has too much electronics that can unfixably fail. The Zmax wins on that count too. This is just my opinion.

Movapes was one that had a surplus of Zmax's and they are no longer operating an online store. I contacted them through FB, casually and got a response to mssg them about their stock in Zmax's. The one I got was the v3, flat top and since it was a gift, I don't remember if it had the plastic or steel button. I remember taking it out and thinking how nice and solid it was. I was proud of the gift.

Anyway, is anyone interested? I think most of the deals below $25 are gone and this could be near the last shot at one of these stainless workhorses. I should probably stop talking and find out what the deal is first, eh? [emoji1]

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[yzer]

I would like to see the thread stay on topic but I have done my share of digressions, as well. Eventually, this thread is going to fade into irrelevance as the product becomes increasingly dated or eventually discontinued by the manufacturer. I'm fine with that.

Still, it would be nice to open a page on this thread and see posts about the V3 or V5.

 

[VapieDan]

I think we all regret the end of the Zmax line. The survivors will be around a long time. In fact there may be a resurgence. If E Liquid becomes heavily taxed high ohm low wattage vaping may return to the scene in high numbers since it will be rediscovered for lower liquid consumption resulting in savings. I'll be here waiting and so will my Zmax mods!

 

[aikanae1]

I think we all regret the end of the Zmax line. The survivors will be around a long time. In fact there may be a resurgence. If E Liquid becomes heavily taxed high ohm low wattage vaping may return to the scene in high numbers since it will be rediscovered for lower liquid consumption resulting in savings. I'll be here waiting and so will my Zmax mods!

Low watt vapers are still the majority IMO. They just aren't hanging out in ecig forums online, nor are they vocal enthusiasts. There's already been push back that I've seen on nearly every forum from ECF, Reddit, even on FT with feelings of being left out of the loop with hardware. What does exist is labeled "beginners" and treated as second class. I don't feel like a beginner. I also don't feel that represents the mission of THR very well. Right now the enviroment is too one sided and it'll balance out, if given a chance.

I was over on a Chinese site related to the famous baba site but this is the retail side and saw a lot of Zmax 5's. Most were selling $45 and up. Sometimes I think it's easy to develop a myopic view. Hang out in the new members area to refresh the memory of what it was like. A simple evod kit can be overwhelming. There's no way the vast majority of vaper's are into high watts and sub ohms.

 

[VapieDan]

Low watt vapers are still the majority IMO. They just aren't hanging out in ecig forums online, nor are they vocal enthusiasts. There's already been push back that I've seen on nearly every forum from ECF, Reddit, even on FT with feelings of being left out of the loop with hardware. What does exist is labeled "beginners" and treated as second class. I don't feel like a beginner. I also don't feel that represents the mission of THR very well. Right now the enviroment is too one sided and it'll balance out, if given a chance.

I was over on a Chinese site related to the famous baba site but this is the retail side and saw a lot of Zmax 5's. Most were selling $45 and up. Sometimes I think it's easy to develop a myopic view. Hang out in the new members area to refresh the memory of what it was like. A simple evod kit can be overwhelming. There's no way the vast majority of vaper's are into high watts and sub ohms.

When you take into account the new vapers and those using convenience store E cigs the vast majority. Cloud chasers use a ton more juice and spend more on high end mods. And here we are........

 

[yzer]

Low watt vapers are still the majority IMO. They just aren't hanging out in ecig forums online, nor are they vocal enthusiasts. There's already been push back that I've seen on nearly every forum from ECF, Reddit, even on FT with feelings of being left out of the loop with hardware. What does exist is labeled "beginners" and treated as second class. I don't feel like a beginner. I also don't feel that represents the mission of THR very well. Right now the enviroment is too one sided and it'll balance out, if given a chance.

I was over on a Chinese site related to the famous baba site but this is the retail side and saw a lot of Zmax 5's. Most were selling $45 and up. Sometimes I think it's easy to develop a myopic view. Hang out in the new members area to refresh the memory of what it was like. A simple evod kit can be overwhelming. There's no way the vast majority of vaper's are into high watts and sub ohms.

There is a lot of truth to this. Sigelei Zmax continues in production to meet worldwide demand but is pretty much irrelevant to the ECF scene, which is driven by marketing produced by a popular clique of YouTube "reviewers". The latest and greatest continues to appeal to vanity vapers. I don't find that much that is relevant to my style of vaping (under 10 watts, carto tank, APV) on ECF now so I don't drop by that often anymore.

Given time and the maturation of the vaping marketplace I'm sure lower wattage vaping will maintain a secure lead in overall sales. The limitations imposed by device size, expense and complexity of use will favor devices appealing to the lowest common vaping denominator and relegate higher wattage, high tech vaping to the hobbyist niche market.

 

[Stiksave]

And here we sit quietly enjoying our satisfying vapor without looking like a smokehouse full of Easter hams during Holy week. With my wife, we have 4 identical setups consisting of a Kayfun V4 clone, 1.8ohm coil, cotton wick, Sigelei V5, 7.5 watts, 3mg nic, 5% flavor, 50/50 vg pg, and we have to crack a window in the car when we travel together in order to see. So we may be boring, but enjoying our vaping just fine. Since we're in our sweet spot, I stop by always on the lookout for leads on backups for our V5's at a good price.

 

[VapieDan]

And here we sit quietly enjoying our satisfying vapor without looking like a smokehouse full of Easter hams during Holy week. With my wife, we have 4 identical setups consisting of a Kayfun V4 clone, 1.8ohm coil, cotton wick, Sigelei V5, 7.5 watts, 3mg nic, 5% flavor, 50/50 vg pg, and we have to crack a window in the car when we travel together in order to see. So we may be boring, but enjoying our vaping just fine. Since we're in our sweet spot, I stop by always on the lookout for leads on backups for our V5's at a good price.

You had to get me started. If the cloud chasing had not started a couple years ago and the industry would have continued to place emphasis on devices that helped people quit and stay off cigarettes our ranks would be much larger and we would be more effective politically. Now that's off my chest you missed some dandy deals on V5s a few months back. The last real deals still going is for V3s. Here are the links.

Sigelei ZMax Variable Volt Telescopic APV Steel v3 has a sealed 510 connector from 3 Volts to 6 Volts Variable Voltage of 510 atomizers and cartomizers.Variable Voltage.Choose Voltage Battery Lasts Over Day.

Sigelei ZMAX V3 Telescopic Variable Mod

Still good backups and vape fine but I also prefer the menu of the V5 and the Flat top design.

 

[BackDoc]

Dan, the stainless has been out of stock for a while at ecigcharleston sorry to say. Ive dealt with Vaporrange as well and they are reputable and offer free shipping on everything regardless of how little you spend, so 9.99 delivered is a great deal for a V3

 

[aikanae1]

I've noticed my time on ECF has cut down with all the high wattage, tc and stuff. Just not into it. My spending is cut too. I hope people keep finding close out deals.

On another well known but can't be mentioned forum, there's several active threads looking for MTL hardware, and there's several similar ones on ECF. I've seen the same at FT and Reddit. I ended up making a list of all the non sub ohm tanks w/o rebuilding. Most of those interested aren't "noobs", they tried the current trend and didn't like it. Like me. It's a choice and valid vaping style.

 

[BackDoc]

PS; I agree that the cloud chasing Extremism has inflamed the opponents, the sad thing is the feeding frenzy of sub ohms and tanks etc will come to a standstill at some point(like the megapixel race ) in the recent future lets just hope Vaping survives

 

[aikanae1]

PS; I agree that the cloud chasing Extremism has inflamed the opponents, the sad thing is the feeding frenzy of sub ohms and tanks etc will come to a standstill at some point(like the megapixel race ) in the recent future lets just hope Vaping survives

I don't think anyone wants it to come to a standstill, just more balance. Look at the innovations that have come from it, that's like any sport, the true enthusiasts such as race cars drive the auto industry, etc. They spend the money on juice and equipment and will always have the ear of manufacturers for that reason. This industry is maturing and this is another growth pain.

If it's allowed to continue. I hear ya there too. I'm looking at mech's again since I feel they are FDA proof. How sad.

 

[VapieDan]

Dan, the stainless has been out of stock for a while at ecigcharleston sorry to say. Ive dealt with Vaporrange as well and they are reputable and offer free shipping on everything regardless of how little you spend, so 9.99 delivered is a great deal for a V3

Just noticed Charleston is out but until 11/08/15 they have a coupon code GUY for 20% off everything including close outs. Some really great deals

Huge discounts on closeout ECIG supplies.

 

[VapieDan]

PS; I agree that the cloud chasing Extremism has inflamed the opponents, the sad thing is the feeding frenzy of sub ohms and tanks etc will come to a standstill at some point(like the megapixel race ) in the recent future lets just hope Vaping survives

High taxation may kill sub ohm vaping due to the high volume of liquid consumed. Look at Chicago. It may be coming everywhere

 

[Stiksave]

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High taxation may kill sub ohm vaping due to the high volume of liquid consumed. Look at Chicago. It may be coming everywhere

Obama country.

 

[BackDoc]

It's real difficult to call regarding the future of vaping Dan, its a shame that our politicians are so greedy and dishonest all in the name of public safety, the sad thing is most people will believe the lie .......people will Vape the govt approved delivery devices because they are a safer alternative to smoking and once again Phillip Morris, astra zenica et al will be in the money and vaping will cost more than smoking but will be justified , qualified, approved, deemed safe because the FDA says so....... It turns my stomach

 

[VapieDan]

It's real difficult to call regarding the future of vaping Dan, its a shame that our politicians are so greedy and dishonest all in the name of public safety, the sad thing is most people will believe the lie .......people will Vape the govt approved delivery devices because they are a safer alternative to smoking and once again Phillip Morris, astra zenica et al will be in the money and vaping will cost more than smoking but will be justified , qualified, approved, deemed safe because the FDA says so....... It turns my stomach

Vaping will be persecuted since money is involved. It is simple as that. We were naive in the fact we thought it would be embraced because it is such a good thing.

 

[BackDoc]

Indeed, I guess its to be expected in a fallen world (in the past it was with interest that someone listened to our persuading them to try vaping instead of smoking, now the first thing out of their mouth is " I heard that's worse than cigarettes") ill only discuss vaping with interested parties at this point, my evangelistic days are over

 

[VapieDan]

Indeed, I guess its to be expected in a fallen world (in the past it was with interest that someone listened to our persuading them to try vaping instead of smoking, now the first thing out of their mouth is " I heard that's worse than cigarettes") ill only discuss vaping with interested parties at this point, my evangelistic days are over

It's unbelievable that people are so easily brainwashed. It appears the media knows exactly how to push the buttons.

 

[aikanae1]

The corporations do it for a living. Makes a big difference.