Sigelei Zmax V3 and V5 Telescopic: User's Group

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yzer

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A new shot of the two Sigeleis. Buying the pair last year convinced Santa to bring me the Samsung 24" monitor.
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Both the flat-top and round-top have eGo and 510 threads. :)

Wish that were true but it isn't. I contacted the seller of the flat top I have. He told me he bought it when they first came out. I've looked closely and even tried a couple of beauty rings I have and there are no eGo threads. So the top does not come off and there are no eGo threads. ::I sound like a broken record::
 

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Wish that were true but it isn't. I contacted the seller of the flat top I have. He told me he bought it when they first came out. I've looked closely and even tried a couple of beauty rings I have and there are no eGo threads. So the top does not come off and there are no eGo threads. ::I sound like a broken record::
I purchased my first Sigelei Zmax V3 telescopic flat top in April, 2012. It has both 510 and eGo threading. Purchased from ElectronicStix.com. The 510 threading is stainless steel, the eGo threading is brass. This flat top does not have a removable top cap. You can see a photo of the old-style brass eGo threading here (and a defective one, at that).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-reports-one-week-later-14.html#post9718242

This photo shows the Telescopic V3 flat top I purchased in November 2012 from 101 Vape. It has the removable top cap and the 510/eGo threading is easily seen with the top cap removed. Both threadings are milled onto a single piece of stainless steel.

It is my understanding that 510/eGo threading is present on all Sigelei Zmaxs with V2 and later. V1 was 510 only. The flat top didn't even appear until V3.

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Wish that were true but it isn't. I contacted the seller of the flat top I have. He told me he bought it when they first came out. I've looked closely and even tried a couple of beauty rings I have and there are no eGo threads. So the top does not come off and there are no eGo threads. ::I sound like a broken record::

Building off of yzer's post, I purchased my v3 flat top from Desert Vapes in Nov and a round top in Dec. both have the eGo and 510 fittings and both have removable top caps. Both are version 1.5a - Round-top on the left, Flat-top on right.

Something I didn't notice is that the round-top has vertical grooves and the flat top has horizontal grooves.

One other thing is that on the round-top, the eGo threading goes all the way down on post but on the flat-top, it only goes half way. Also, the 4 notches cut into the top of the post seem to be just a tad (uber technical term here) deeper on the flat-top than the round-top but I don't notice a difference in performance between the two.

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There are pics online of an old version, like the first one or something. That just had a brass ego ring pressed on around the 510. I read somewhere that it would come loose and need to be pressed back on. That's style is long gone. You must have got the oldest version. No one should question if it's got ego threads or solid stainless. Anything you buy new from a reputable vendor will have it.
 
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I only asked my original question out of curiosity and it seems to have been interpreted as a question from a noob who doesn't know what she's talking about. Obviously this is not my first rodeo. The top to this flat top PV does not come off. There are no eGo threads. It has the same Sigeli software as the new one I have. There is no brand name on the outside. The grooves are horizontal. I don't have a camera that is capable of taking a mega closeup of the center pin so I guess it's a moot point.
 

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I pretty sure we're just trying to help. Sorry you got a weird one. This thread has become a data base for the v3. I don't doubt you. Just it's not supposed to be that way. All of ours do have egos. First run didn't have the removable top. Where did you purchase it? ..

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Oh yeah classies. YOu got the first version I've seen online.. No removable and it had a pressed on. Brass ego that the last person likely lost.
 
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I have a V3 round top that I purchased new. It has the correct credentials as reported above with the version and Sigelei name etc. I just received the second one which was purchased from a forum member and it is a flat top. The top of the round top comes off for "deep" cleaning. The top of the 2nd one does not come off. Isn't the second one's top supposed to unscrew?

It seems there were two different newer "flat top V3's" that came out. Some had removable collars and some didn't.

Just before Christmas, I called Desert Vapes to see if the V3 they advertised on their site had the removable collar. While I was on the phone, they pulled one out and verified that it did not unscrew (they only had 2 or 3 left in stock at this point). The lady tried to unscrew it with no luck, and I was very specific in asking about the existence of "double seams" just above the screen which is a sure sign it will unscrew. No joy. So I decided to hold off and see if I could find one somewhere else.

A week or so after that (no luck finding them in stock anywhere else), I bit the bullet and ordered two V3's from Desert Vapes fully expecting they would not unscrew and I was pleasantly surprised when they did. Obviously they had received another batch that had the removable collar after I had called them previously and I got lucky. One V3 was ordered for my Dad as a backup and the other was for a friend's wife so she could gift it to him for X-mas (I was reimbursed for that one). I'll also say that both had the Sigelei logo under the screen as well as the CE logo on the battery caps, not that it matters much in this regard.
 

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I only asked my original question out of curiosity and it seems to have been interpreted as a question from a noob who doesn't know what she's talking about. Obviously this is not my first rodeo. The top to this flat top PV does not come off. There are no eGo threads. It has the same Sigeli software as the new one I have. There is no brand name on the outside. The grooves are horizontal. I don't have a camera that is capable of taking a mega closeup of the center pin so I guess it's a moot point.
I always make sure to buy a APV from a vendor with a warranty. I'm one of those fussy people who returns defective stuff. My very first APV was an E-Power 14650 that had a bad switching unit. That was back in 2011. I didn't even have to return it to the vendor. I just made one phone call to them and they sent me a new one, no problem.
 

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I've been watching this thread for a while and I just received my V5 from healthcabin.net today! I decided to go for a V5 since there were so many different production runs of the V3, I honestly have no use for a 510-to-usb charger.

My firmware is SI V2.0a, this V5 has the sigelei logo etched under the button.

Doing this little fimware display trick reset something in there. The display changed from showing the batterylife/output setting/puffcount all at once to showing one item at a time only. I can change the 'fullscreen' item displayed but I can't get back the regular display without rebooting the unit by removing the battery. I kind of like the enormous puff-timer that it yields.

Now for a little review, I came off a 7 month old vamo v2 and man the Zmax is something else. The stainless steel finish looks almost exactly like that on the kayfun lite so I'm really happy with that. The button is really fat, clicky and centered very nicely. It looks and feels much nicer than in pictures, they don't do it justice.
I honestly did not expect the circuitry to perform this much better than the vamo. It heats up faster, cools down faster and produces a warmer/fuller vape overall (yes it is in RMS mode using the exact same coil).
 

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So I can now put this to rest. Thanks to those who answered my original question. I only purchased the "odd" V3 as a backup in the classies. No eGo threading is not a big issue since I mostly use PT Is and IIs. The possibility (or probability) that a pressure mounted eGo thread went missing is good info to have. Were it not for the presence of the Sigelei software I would suspect a clone or it may be one...don't know but it's okay. There is also no brand above the fire button and no double "cut" above the fire button that would signal the presence of a removable collar. I bought a new V3 because at that time (couple of months ago) the only difference between the two was the addition of a puff counter and the phone charger. Don't need either one and my mental picture of charging my phone with my ecig just blows my mind. LOL

I was using cotton for wicks on my Vamos which really improved their performance. I was in Hobby Lobby recently and while wandering around Ifound a skein of cotton yarn. Brought it home and boiled the H__L out of it. Did a rebuild and rewick on a PT II this morning and when I put it on the newest Sigelei I was dumbfounded at the improvement in vapor and taste. Big difference!!
 
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I purchased my first Sigelei Zmax V3 telescopic flat top in April, 2012. It has both 510 and eGo threading. Purchased from ElectronicStix.com. The 510 threading is stainless steel, the eGo threading is brass. This flat top does not have a removable top cap. You can see a photo of the old-style brass eGo threading here (and a defective one, at that).

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...er-reports-one-week-later-14.html#post9718242

This photo shows the Telescopic V3 flat top I purchased in November 2012 from 101 Vape. It has the removable top cap and the 510/eGo threading is easily seen with the top cap removed. Both threadings are milled onto a single piece of stainless steel.

It is my understanding that 510/eGo threading is present on all Sigelei Zmaxs with V2 and later. V1 was 510 only. The flat top didn't even appear until V3.

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I was one with defective ego threading, the brass ring was sliding up and down on the center 510 pole, free-cigs replaced with no problem, the second one i recived was flawless, but couple of week ago one of my rda decide to break the oring and flooded the well on the topcap wile i was sleeping, i just twist the zmax upside down to drain all the juice and the brass ego threading just felt out into the towel,

So you guys that still have brass ego threading becarefull not to wet with juice because the ring is just glued and juice can break the bond


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ok, read through most of this thread, and found out I've been tightening the telescopic part too much.

Everything works fine, but my button is definitely "pushed" up.

Is there a fix to re-center the board over the button? How can you open it up? My top-cap doesnt seem removable, and don't see a way "inside" looking through the battery tube.
 

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ok, read through most of this thread, and found out I've been tightening the telescopic part too much.

Everything works fine, but my button is definitely "pushed" up.

Is there a fix to re-center the board over the button? How can you open it up? My top-cap doesnt seem removable, and don't see a way "inside" looking through the battery tube.
You are going to have to disassemble the Sigelei to fix this cosmetic issue. My opinion is if it isn't broke, don't fix it. On your version of the V3 the top cap and internals may be accessed by rocking the top cap with the thumbs up and out of the tube body. The top cap may be fairly easy to push out of an unopened unit or it could be difficult. It's a press fitting.

Don't feel bad if you have overtightened to the spring and messed things up. Lots of people do this.
Sigelei Zmax Telescopic battery tube adjustment



Here, PBusardo shows you exactly how NOT to adjust the tube length to fit the battery. He over-tightens both a 18490 and a 18650 in detail.

 

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New question:
I have protected 18350 batteries that worked alright in my vamo but the Zmax won't fire with them. I can get it to boot up, turn on after 5 clicks but after that it's just dead. Any idea what the problem is?
My suspicion is that the voltage drop that would occur on firing becomes too much for the Zmax to approve of, while the vamo didn't care.
The batteries in question are cigfire. I hoped they weren't a rebranded cheapo *-fire so I took the gamble anyway when I ordered them. They come from intaste.de who also stock several other great batteries and seem to be a respectable store.
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Thanks for the information and it turns out I was doing it right from the get-go. I like to use the 3 rings in the slim middle section for reference instead of how far my battery pokes out. If the 3 rings look exactly centered between the big tubes it's good.
There's hardly any slack or wobble on the tubes and I'm loving the zmax so far.
 
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