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30 will net you around the 2.5 range with 10 wraps @ 1/16, 3ohms at 12 wraps. The 32 is 10 @ 1/16 for around 3 , total ohms depending on the length of you legs and coil diameter. 1/16 is the standard for micro coil. 30g is easier to work with as a beginner.

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Yes lower amp drain for the desired wattage , the battery will last longer, with the same wattage output. So for your calculation figure your true watt range that you vape at. Go as high in ohms as you can and still get that range. To maximize battery life.

The amps are for max power, amp load calculations, watts are for equal power calculations. Volts can be thought of an end product setting(means to an end) to equal the others, or for backwards calculations.

Although it's not as big a deal since you use pretty low power as is but you can maximize the battery life. Possibly 25% longer with a similar vape at the same overall wattage. Based on what you've said I'm guessing 2 ohm at 3.7v & ~7 watts not really an issue unless you run single 350s then it could help you out a bit get another hour out of a battery maybe

** This is a bigger deal for those trying to run higher power like myself. Regularly running at 15 watts, or using lo w res coils. **
 
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Yes lower amp drain for the desired wattage , the battery will last longer, with the same wattage output. So for your calculation figure your true watt range that you vape at. Go as high in ohms as you can and still get that range. To maximize battery life.

The amps are for max power, amp load calculations, watts are for equal power calculations. Volts can be thought of an end product setting(means to an end) to equal the others, or for backwards calculations.

Although it's not as big a deal since you use pretty low power as is but you can maximize the battery life. Possibly 25% longer with a similar vape at the same overall wattage. Based on what you've said I'm guessing 2 ohm at 3.7v & ~7 watts not really an issue unless you run single 350s then it could help you out a bit get another hour out of a battery maybe

** This is a bigger deal for those trying to run higher power like myself. Regularly running at 15 watts, or using lo w res coils. **

Yeah, totally undertand it's more for those who are building their own coils and/or vaping closer to the "extremes"..


As you mentioned, just looking to get as much as reasonably possible out of a battery charge, without sacrificing the juice-vape experience.. don't want to get caught with my pants down someday when I need a toot the most, heh :vapor:


And yep, yer guess (7 watts/3.7v @ 2 ohm) would be correct! Sometimes I'll go up or down a little, but not by much


As a bit of an aside.. These Sigelei kit batteries (ICR) aren't the best.. Probably shouldn't be using them anyway, but considering I paid for them, might as well use them up..

The issue? With each successive charge, the life keeps going down down down... Guessing at some point a fully-charged 350 will last about 5 minutes, LOL.. I'm sure I'll dispose of them well before that.. I understand the increased risks with these.. not sure why they'd include them, anyway.. at least throw some eFest's in there, sheesh! :laugh:


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Oh long story short if you happily vape at 7 watts you could go up to a 5 ohm coil, at the highest, and get 7 watts at 6 volts and 1.2 amps draw instead of 1.85 amps draw with the same power to the coil. That would give you a substantial increase in battery life with a comparable vapor production. In reality a 5 ohm isn't the greatest because you would typically use 36g to get there , not something you want to mess with by hand building, but if you could get a 4-5 ohm carto you could try it.
 

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Oh long story short if you happily vape at 7 watts you could go up to a 5 ohm coil, at the highest, and get 7 watts at 6 volts and 1.2 amps draw instead of 1.85 amps draw with the same power to the coil. That would give you a substantial increase in battery life with a comparable vapor production. In reality a 5 ohm isn't the greatest because you would typically use 36g to get there , not something you want to mess with by hand building, but if you could get a 4-5 ohm carto you could try it.

Yeah, at this point I'm staying away from building coils.. I know it's cheaper & pretty easy, but I'm too lazy

But been toying with going with higher-ohm coils out of the package, anyway


I'd probably get more into DIY juice 1st before going down the DIY coil road

Inching ever closer to the juice thing...
 

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    Hey nialz if your running low res you'd get a lot better performance and power output with stacked 18350's. The 3000 mahs will likely not work out for you. As most of them have 6 amp work load rating, not even enough to run it proper. The zmax spikes to up to 8 amps from the battery to run the boost circuit fully loaded. The v3 has about a 2.5 amp limit with one 18650 as far as I can tell. To get to 4 amps you need stacked 350s.

    With 1.5 ohm coil your maxing out the circuitry at 3.8v & 2.5amps getting 9.8w and running the battery down fast. If you run stacked 350s with 1.5ohm @10w you'd only be running at 62% capacity. Providing longer battery life and won't hit the amp limit till 6v.

    I'm a heavy vaper as well and if I run a 1.5 - 1.7 ohm, a 650 efest 2000 lasts only 4-5 hrs, if I run a 2.5 ohm I actually get more power (14.5w) and the battery lasts 8-10 hrs. I can get 12watts @ 6v out of a 3 ohm only pulling 2 amps (2 more watts than 1.5oHm)and it lasts 12 hours.

    The optimum ohms for 1 battery is 2.4ohms providing 6v 15w @ 2.5 amps

    Edit - * the MVP has a 3 amp limit

    Thank you for the info, will get myself another 350 battery :)

    My only complaint with the zmax so far, is when you change the battery, it saves your watts/vottage setting, but you have to reset the screen display to what you want to display when firing, I want to see the resistance of my coil, and when change battery, it shows your power setting, so have to change back to resistance, other than that, I am really happy with the zmax so far :D
     

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    There's a trick you can do when you change the battery... To see resistance and battery charge- Check it out post 895... it rests other settings though post 899

    ** if you stack 350s it's recommended to have matched /new batteries ; used and charged together all the time as a pair **
     
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    My first Sigelei V3 came from ElectronicStixs last April. The kit included two blue generic 18650s. I honestly don't know what they are. They are generic blue batts that say "18650 2200mAh 3.6V" on the battery. 2200mAh is a common capacity value for IMR in this size so I'm guessing they are IMR. I can tell that they are not protected. Anyway I vape at 6.5 or 7.0 watts most of the time so they have worked fine for me on 2.0 ohm single coil cartos. They haven't shown any signs of aging yet.
     

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    For those looking at the V5.

    V3 and V5 share the same performance parameters, basic electronics and mechanical features. V5 has the cell phone charging accessory which attaches to the 510/eGo connector. The cell phone charger connects to the cell phone with a USB cable. The firmware for V5 is different for V5 because it has a ninth menu item for operating the cell phone charger.

    Other differences between V3 and V5 are found in the OLED display. The display for V5 shows a battery symbol to indicate state of battery charge and a puff counter.

    Both are fine rigs and meet different requirements for users.
     

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    Yeah, rather flattering for sigelei. !!
    its like a high end v3 with AFC
    I wonder if they did the board retainers right.,?

    Actually I wonder if its in fact made by sigelei as a *special edition for this company... They say designed and engineered in USA, - but do not say manufactured in USA.. (A common trick people do to make you think its American made but its not)

    Based on this pic I'm gonna say its main body is made by sigelei for sure, maybe they made the top cap for it, as it's the only piece that doesn't match.

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