Simple safe nicotine extraction from any tobacco

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Ok...got the tobacco. I had to buy a pack since a tin of the stuff was 56 bucks (thank God I no longer smoke tobacco). I have the tubes and everything is set to go. I will run the tests this evening after my brats are in bed.

Good Luck, Nuck!..excited for your morning report:)..
 

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OK..finished the experiment. Ended up taking hours!

After fooling around with it a bit I got it working really well by using 60ml VG in a long thin bottle that was buried in ice. I managed to seal the vapour in the bag quite well and it was pushing all the vapourized tobacco (446 degrees was the max my volcano could do) through the bottle.

The vapour entered in the bottle at the bottom and the bubbles rose slowly..took about 2 full seconds to reach the top. The bottle was sealed pretty good and there was nothing escaping so I have to assume the vapour was effectively being condensed.

The problem was, even though it was working perfectly, it required 4 minutes or so to effectively vapourize the tobacco of slightly less than 1 cigarette. Give I had 60 ml of juice it would require 120 cigarettes at 100% extraction and 10 hours of nonstop work to get 60ml of 30mg nicotine. The tobacco alone would cost me 45-50 bucks. Keep it mind that is based on an unattainable 100% extraction.

So in conclusion, I think theoretically it would work if time and money were not a consideration but I can't see how it could be viable even in the event we see a hardcore ecig ban.
 

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Simple sollution would be to grow your own tobacco. Theoretically you can get about 100 grams of dry tobacco per plant. Or about 100 cigarettes worth.

Simply planting these in your yard, 2 feet apart in the row, 4 feet apart between rows, could mean that a 16 foot by 16 foot square of your yard could grow aproximatley 3200 cigarettes worth of tobacco.

This would probably be enough nicotine for the average vaper to go at it for about a year.


If this is really too much for you, use pipe tobacco.
 
My concern about evap/condense is that one of the primary carcinogens in pure leaf tobacco is (believe it or not) Radon, which is a gas at room temp, can be in the tobacco leaf, but could be captured in the distillate. It does not take more than a few particles of an alpha emitter to do GREAT damage to the body, internally.
There are many who feel that it is primarily the radon in tobacco that is primarily responsible for the increased incidence of cancer in smokers.
Just one man's opinion. Everyone should have the right to play Russian Roulette in their own way.
 

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OK... I saw in some thread where people were looking for a source to purchase pure nicotine. Is it legal for the average person to purchase nicotine from a chemical supplier? I found it somewhere and they dont say anything about legality. I've searched everywhere I can think of, and can't find anything specific.
Also, it's 100mL. How do you convert mL to mg of nicotine? I thought it would be in the MSDS, but that just has the Mol/mL.
Any info would be appreciated!
 

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OK... I saw in some thread where people were looking for a source to purchase pure nicotine. Is it legal for the average person to purchase nicotine from a chemical supplier? I found it somewhere and they dont say anything about legality. I've searched everywhere I can think of, and can't find anything specific.
Also, it's 100mL. How do you convert mL to mg of nicotine? I thought it would be in the MSDS, but that just has the Mol/mL.
Any info would be appreciated!

Your first post and you are already about to order a substance that can kill with a single spilled drop. I'd hate to be around you when you hit 10 posts!
 

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Your first post and you are already about to order a substance that can kill with a single spilled drop. I'd hate to be around you when you hit 10 posts!

LOL Just wait! I'm sure I'll be super-modding in less than two weeks! I read somewhere else about homeland security and watch lists.... I think I'll pass on the pure nicotine for now;)

thanks for the answer!
 

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Your first post and you are already about to order a substance that can kill with a single spilled drop. I'd hate to be around you when you hit 10 posts!

LMAO:lol::lol::lol:

classic...

nice experiment here though i am saddened that the results show its pretty much more economical to BUY 36mg stuff for now but oh well...
 

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From Wikipedia's page on nicotine:

As shown by the physical data, free base nicotine will burn at a temperature below its boiling point, and its vapors will combust at 308*K (35*°C; 95*°F) in air despite a low vapor pressure. Because of this, most of the nicotine is burned when a cigarette is smoked; however, enough is inhaled to provide the desired effects. The amount of nicotine inhaled with tobacco smoke is a fraction of the amount contained in the tobacco leaves.

If the stuff can burn at 35 C, I wouldn't expect great yeilds from a method that relies on vaporizing it in hot air. Sorry to rain on the parade.
 

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OK... I saw in some thread where people were looking for a source to purchase pure nicotine. Is it legal for the average person to purchase nicotine from a chemical supplier? I found it somewhere and they dont say anything about legality. I've searched everywhere I can think of, and can't find anything specific.
Also, it's 100mL. How do you convert mL to mg of nicotine? I thought it would be in the MSDS, but that just has the Mol/mL.
Any info would be appreciated!

It is legal. You don't have to think in terms of mg if the nicotine is liquid. At 100% pure liquid nicotine, one ml added to 9 ml of pg/vg would be about the same as the 100mg nicotine per ml e juice that is being sold for a dollor or more per ml from the e-cig sites.
 

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