Slow loading times?

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yzer

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Sorry it took so long. I'm at home in a wheelchair with a broken leg and had to answer a Jehovah's Witness at the front door.

The loading time is much improved. It now takes 3-4 seconds to load. I opened several of the sub forums to test.

I didn't dump browsing history along with cache and cookies this time so I didn't lose the images on the FF tabs page.

Thanks. I can live with 3-4 seconds.
 

Katya

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There was a server issue which messed up load balancing. If you log out, clear cache and cookies, then log back in, things should improve for you.

Well, last night, after midnight (Pacific) everything was fast and lovely. Right now it takes me about a minute for a page to load. I'm using Google Chrome. I don't see how clearing my cache and cookies might help.
 

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yes - it's been getting progressively worse as the day went on ............

ff25 - xp pro here

Me too. Yesterday I was getting database errors just trying to get to ECF. I saw someone post elsewhere that they were not able to get on at all yesterday.
 

Trayce

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Cleared cache, history, and everything else, ECF came up quick but as soon as I logged in, molasses! I hope this gets fixed soon, I'll try again later.

Same here. Ran ok (slow load but doable, like several seconds) before logging in, but as soon as I log in the lag time is so long the site isn't usable imo. Life is too short to sit for 30s-1min every time you want to see the next page of posts. I posted here yesterday on page 1 (turned out I became the 1st post on page 2) and when I logged back in tonight I saw there were 5 pages and immediately thought cr@p, because clicking from one page to the next takes FOREVER and I wanted to read all 5 pages (and did).

I have a few comments:

#1. If FF runs slow as a rule on this site (qualifier coming) even when the site is functioning perfectly from the server end, then the site is not coded properly b/c FF meets the international HTML standards and should function properly on any properly coded site. This barring third-party add-ons that might interfere with function.

To see if any of my FF add-ons were causing the pitiful performance on this site, I used the K-Meleon browser. K-Meleon is an open-source, basic, Mozilla-based browser with no bells or whistles and no add-ons. When I have trouble with a site in FF, I use K-Meleon and if the site is functioning properly, K-Meleon will work. (You can also start FF without it's add-ons but it's easier and quicker for me to just open K-Meleon.) Well, ECF functioned pretty fast in K-Meleon... until I logged in. Then it hung and had all the same problems FF is having.

#2. Sometimes (more often in the past) sites coded for MS IE... they used to have little graphics that would say something like, "This site is designed to look best using IE" with a link to the download page at MS. MS didn't strictly follow international conventions, but also incorporated proprietary coding/HTML conventions as well, so sites that coded specifically for MSIE and no other browser often didn't function well using an alternate browser. Happily this is rare now, and I'd guess ECF is coded according to international standards (and also to accommodate IE). My point is that when a site is coded to international standards, ANY browser that follows those standards should work fine. While some browser engines are faster than others, that difference should be in milliseconds - not the difference between a few seconds and 30+ seconds.

All to say, I am no webmaster or IT administrator, but if you ask me, this site has one simple problem... too much traffic for the servers it's using. It needs more bandwidth and upgraded management tools (if it's having problems routing traffic). A new host with more bandwidth would likely offer new tools anyway.

To say there was a load balancing problem a few days ago is no comfort and no answer, because ECF has been a horridly awful site to use on the hardware end since I started here in March. So it is very depressing if they think this is a new problem from a few days ago, and fixing whatever went wrong there is going to... what? Return the site to it's usual horrid performance?

I don't know who pays for ECF so I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but a site that isn't functional is a real bummer for people who want to use it.
 

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Since ECF is running on a cPanel based server (and least the front-end server is), I'm a bit surprised to see that Varnish + Apache is being used instead of Varnish + Litespeed, especially if they're using the same script to manage Varnish as I think they are. They could be running Varnish on an independent server, but for cPanel, it seems more like they're using a script from another company.

This is simply based on the fact that I've managed cPanel based server for the past 10 years and have experience using cPanel, cPanel with Litespeed, cPanel with NGINX and the Varnish script I mentioned.


If they were to go with Litespeed, they'd most likely not only see reduced loads, but faster page loads.
 

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Well after my rant above from 90 minutes ago when the site was crawling at 30s page loads, it is now working "normally" at 9:30pm PST at 3-5s page loads. (I consider that normal for a site like this.) But sorry to say I don't expect it to last since this state is always the exception to the rule. At least in my experience.

But one thing it does prove is that it has nothing to do with the browser.

EDIT: Next day 11/14/13 12:19pm PST and the site is still running well!! This is a first for me and I am now hopeful someone DID fix something that will make a permanent difference... at least for now!

And FTR I have FF configured to delete ALL cookies, cache and history every time I close the browser, and I usually sign on to ECF as soon as I open FF to check posts before doing other things, so cache and cookies were never the problem here.
 
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