SM V3 Semovar VS Provari
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Hi Thrasher,
Since Fasttech is horrendous with their delivery times - especially now with their HK post deliveries of batteries, I bought some Efest 18650 2250 mAh button tops (that's the only decent brand I could get here in Switzerland). They are also very snug. They measure 66.8 mm in length. I'm hoping that the Pany NCR18650PD button tops will fit better as they seem to measure at 65.2 mm (I believe they are the same size as the AW 18650 - and the AW are recommended by Cloud9Vaping on their site right in the Semovar description/details). The 1.6 mm may not make a difference though.
I also read your response in another thread regarding Efest (that they blew up in a flashlight) - would you not recommend this brand, would the Pany batts be a better choice? The last thing I would want is for these things to screw something up in the Semovar. If the AW measure the same as the Pany, and they are recommended by Cloud9Vaping, I guess they don't put any unnecessary pressure on the switch/chip assembly in the Semovar. What do you think?
Thank you in advance for your advice.
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I really have no opinion on the efest, I have never used them but I have heard just as much good as bad about them as for the pressure the bottom cap is adjustable and even in the case of a shorter battery you will have to decide how tight the screw is and this is the main reason I flipped the cap so the spring is sticking up, that way no matter what battery the pressure is always even. I have a couple different batteries AW's included and I got tired of readjusting the bottom cap everytime i grabbed a different battery.
Thanks for the reply. I flipped the cap as we'll. the spring is definitely more convenient. We already have to adjust the top cap for every atomizer as it is - having to do it for the battery as well is a pain.
However, even with the spring being the contact in the bottom cap, the last 1-2 mm, the cap screws in a bit too tight for my taste. Maybe I'm being a bit too paranoid, but on the ProVari, the amount of pressure applied when screwing in the bottom cap is pretty much the same all the way to the end. With the semovar, it does get quite a bit tighter towards the end - with all the things that I've read about the semovar chips burning out, I don't want to subject it to any unnecessary pressure. I don't have any other mods to utilize these batteries in, so, I just hope that the Pany NCR18650PDs are a bit smaller and I will be able to use them and sell the efest batts with the Vamo V3 I plan to sell. At the same time, perhaps the structure of the switch may have quite a bit of play in it allowing for these different battery sizes - has anyone seen how it's built inside?
For now, I just don't screw the bottom cap in by a mm or 2 just in case.
except for the provari, i really dont use any nipple tops and that couple mm may make the difference i guess.
The ProVari with AW IMR 18350 (I got the mini), they are all nipple tops and they fit perfectly. Well, let's just see when the Pany batteries get here.
Hi All,
I just got 58 minutes of vaping on the Semovar counter out of one Efest IMR 18650 2250 mAh battery. That seems to be pretty good - took me the whole weekend and part of today. I am running a 2.5 ohm coil in my KFL with 4.0-4.2 volts. The not so high voltage and high resistance has helped with this, but i do like a cooler vape, that's why I run it this way.
What are your vape times on the semovar?
I just got 58 minutes of vaping on the Semovar counter out of one Efest IMR 18650 2250 mAh battery. That seems to be pretty good - took me the whole weekend and part of today. I am running a 2.5 ohm coil in my KFL with 4.0-4.2 volts. The not so high voltage and high resistance has helped with this, but i do like a cooler vape, that's why I run it this way.
What are your vape times on the semovar?
With my 16 month old AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh batteries. I get 9 minutes using a 1.6Ω coil at a 14.5 watt setting when they are not causing E5 errors.
just checked my latest run - sittin at 1 hr 18 min for a panny 2900pd and still got a little bit to go
With my 16 month old AW IMR 18650 2000 mAh batteries. I get 9 minutes using a 1.6Ω coil at a 14.5 watt setting when they are not causing E5 errors.
Maybe it's time for a new battery? Or are your other mods doing better with it?
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41mins on an AW2000 (without removing and putting battery back to consume the reserve tank)
On a different Efest 18650 battery, it kicked out after 24 minutes. I did vape with it for a while outside in pretty cold weather, that may have had something to do with it or maybe this other battery is a bit worse than the first one. Let's see if this happens again.
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I will say as soon as I get to the last bar i pop the battery out then in again and get a lot of added time this is probably the only negative I have found but still doesnt bother me much, so far doing this I was able to get a battery down to 3.45V.
I do think the battery meter could have been calibrated better but seeing how the biggest battery around was probably 2000mah when the nivel came out it just hasnt been updated yet.
I do think the battery meter could have been calibrated better but seeing how the biggest battery around was probably 2000mah when the nivel came out it just hasnt been updated yet.
It bothered me at first but now I actually quite like it, it means I don't get a nasty surprise when the battery runs out.
Yep, have to do the same. Had to do it 5 or 6 times starting at 28 minutes and all the way up to 58 minutes, and then I could've gotten more time out of it because as soon as I put the battery into the charger it still had 1 bar on the charger indicator (I use the nitecore I2 charger with 3 LEDs per channel). I wonder if Svoemesto will offer upgrades of the chip to new firmware.... Provape does - they should as well. I should probably post this question on the Russian Svoemesto forum.
Hi,
I have a question for those with a Semovar, or those with a mod with a Nivel chip: perhaps because the mod is using the DC power delivery method, this is why it cuts out early, like a mech mod? In a mech mod, the vapor production goes down and then you know that it's time to change the battery. Perhaps the nivel chip is working the same way, ie: it requires more of a charge to give steady power, and when it senses a drop low enough, it just cuts out in order not to drain the battery below the safe level? Perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way, not sure.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
I have a question for those with a Semovar, or those with a mod with a Nivel chip: perhaps because the mod is using the DC power delivery method, this is why it cuts out early, like a mech mod? In a mech mod, the vapor production goes down and then you know that it's time to change the battery. Perhaps the nivel chip is working the same way, ie: it requires more of a charge to give steady power, and when it senses a drop low enough, it just cuts out in order not to drain the battery below the safe level? Perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way, not sure.
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
After talking with several DNA20 owners and my own experience with the kick chips, I am under the impression the Nivel is just as sensitive to battery sag as the Evolv chips. add in the overall mod resistance and a few points of sag and that 3.6 battery looks like 3.2 to the chip.
i did notice a good thread cleaning and some noalox type treatment have made it somewhat better. ( i can get some batteries down into the 3.55v range) but after the new year i will be testing different batteries in this and my dna mod to see which ones can give the best times or have better discharge/sag curves.
even when the thread are dirty on my provari I see this same drop point on the same batteries. with more power and accuracy is going to come more demand from the battery and if we can find a higher sustainable discharge curve we may actually end up with a longer run time from a slightly smaller Mah battery
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