Smok Tech 1.7 ohm (Resurrector, Rejuvenator etc.) single coil xl black cartomizer question/problem

[ditc]

I have a few questions about the smoktech 1.7ohm 510 cartomizers (Ressurectors, Rejuvinators etc.) I’ve ordered a number of them from various suppliers, all which came in a white cardboard box with stickers saying “510 1.7 +or- 0.2ohms”. All of the cartomizers came individually wrapped in see-thru green packages. I then ordered a bunch of them from a different supplier, and they came in the exact same box, with the exact same stickers, but these were individually wrapped in clear plastic as opposed to the see-thru green plastic that all of the others were. The reason I bring this up, is because I seem to be having some issues with a number of the cartomizers in the clear plastic packaging, that I got from one supplier, whereas I have had no problems with the same supposed product from all of the other suppliers, when they were individually wrapped in the green plastic. I am curious to know if any of you have received either or both kinds, and if any of you have had any problems with either version. I’m also curious if any of you know if these are in fact, the same smoktech 1.7ohm cartomizers (in both kinds of wrapping) or perhaps one version is a cheap knockoff?

Here is my problem: To make it easier, I’ll refer to the “good” smoktech 1.7’s as green wrapped, and the “questionable smoktech 1.7’s as clear wrapped. I have used a few dozen of the green wrapped, all have worked perfectly. I use them with mainly pg juice or 70/30 pg/vg juice. I use them mainly on a kgo, riva, and other 3.7-4.2 ego clones, as well as a Variable Voltage box mod from madvapes (at 4.5-5v tops). They all taste great, last forver, produce tons of vapor. Here’s where it gets weird.

I tried the clear wrapped on the same equipment as I mentioned above, using the same juices. The first one I used was good for 2 or 3 puffs, then immediately gave off a nasty burnt/dry filler taste. Another interesting thing, which I will try my best to explain properly, is that after a few seconds of igniting the cartomizer, the sound (or pitch/whistle) of the cartomizer would change. As well, when taking my finger off of the manual button, the cartomizer would stay ignited for an extra ½ second or so. I dismissed this as being a dud or a faulty cartomizer (it happens). So I tried a second clear wrapped. This one tasted fine, lasted a week, no problems. But, since then, I’ve tried several more clear wrapped, and they’re all having the same exact problem as that horrible first one I tried.

I haven’t tried to dissect any of them to see what’s going on inside, but it seems strange to me that all of these clear wrapped ones (with the exception of one) have this happening to them, whereas none of the green wrapped ones did. Does what I explain sound like it’s a result of poor craftsmanship? Or perhaps this sounds like a symptom of the ohms being even lower on the clear wrapped? (I tested a number of the clear wrapped and green wrapped, and all came out to around 1.8 ohm). Is this what happens to a carto that “burns out” right away if too much power is being supplied to it? I’ve used tons of different cartos, and have run into different problems in the past, but never one like this, or so specific. Could anyone possibly shed some light? Thanks in advance and sorry for the essay!!

 

[Scottinboca]

I know for a fact that the Ressurectors from C.C.V. are great and since he is the only one that calls them that and sells those specifically I know they are legit. They come wrapped in a clear plastic wrapper. I think if these are the ones your having the burnt filler issue, you are not filling them enough or vaping at to high a voltage. What pv are you using and at what voltage? Are you making sure you fill them up enough, they require lots of juice on the first fill.

 

[ditc]

Thanks for the response. Actually, C.C.V. is where I first got them from, with the labelling at the bottom of each cartomizer. At the time, a few months ago, they were wrapped in the green plastic, so perhaps if you're received some from C.C.V. since, perhaps they have all changed to clear wrapping. For the record, every single one of the C.C.V. 1.7's I've used has worked absolutely perfectly. They are not the vendor that sold me the ones behaving badly that I am referring to.

I use all of the 1.7's on Rivas, KGos, Ego Clones at 3.7-4.2, and a vv box mod at 4.5-5v tops. All of the cartos are filled with between 67-75 drops each, doing the taryn spin multiple times while filling, until saturated. Sometimes I fill with a syringe using 1.6-1.7 mls, doing the taryn spin in the middle of filling as well. All are left overnite. I have done the same process with all of the 1.7's, and used all of the same gear with all of the 1.7's, both the good ones (green wrapped in my case) and the weird ones (clear wrapped in my case). Perhaps smok tech has switched to the clear wrapping, and these are the newer ones and i just got a bad batch?

I know for a fact that the Ressurectors from C.C.V. are great and since he is the only one that calls them that and sells those specifically I know they are legit. They come wrapped in a clear plastic wrapper. I think if these are the ones your having the burnt filler issue, you are not filling them enough or vaping at to high a voltage. What pv are you using and at what voltage? Are you making sure you fill them up enough, they require lots of juice on the first fill.

 

[ditc]

Also, to add, the clear wrapped ones have a much airier sound when igniting, versus the green wrapped ones, which have a distinct snap crackle and popping sound. Could the difference between the 2 be some indicator as well?

 

[Scottinboca]

I figured that they weren't C.C.V.'s product. He never sells junk. If you have an issue he will help you out and if it was a rare faulty carto he will send you extras on your next order.

 

[ditc]

That's good to know! Thankfully, nothing I have ordered from him has been faulty, so I haven't had to reach out to him for anything. Just to clarify, the clear wrapped packaging is what you received from C.C.V.? I'm just trying to figure out if smok tech perhaps has changed their packaging.

 

[jlazarus]

I have a few questions about the smoktech 1.7ohm 510 cartomizers (Ressurectors, Rejuvinators etc.) I’ve ordered a number of them from various suppliers, all which came in a white cardboard box with stickers saying “510 1.7 +or- 0.2ohms”. All of the cartomizers came individually wrapped in see-thru green packages. I then ordered a bunch of them from a different supplier, and they came in the exact same box, with the exact same stickers, but these were individually wrapped in clear plastic as opposed to the see-thru green plastic that all of the others were. The reason I bring this up, is because I seem to be having some issues with a number of the cartomizers in the clear plastic packaging, that I got from one supplier, whereas I have had no problems with the same supposed product from all of the other suppliers, when they were individually wrapped in the green plastic. I am curious to know if any of you have received either or both kinds, and if any of you have had any problems with either version. I’m also curious if any of you know if these are in fact, the same smoktech 1.7ohm cartomizers (in both kinds of wrapping) or perhaps one version is a cheap knockoff?

Here is my problem: To make it easier, I’ll refer to the “good” smoktech 1.7’s as green wrapped, and the “questionable smoktech 1.7’s as clear wrapped. I have used a few dozen of the green wrapped, all have worked perfectly. I use them with mainly pg juice or 70/30 pg/vg juice. I use them mainly on a kgo, riva, and other 3.7-4.2 ego clones, as well as a Variable Voltage box mod from madvapes (at 4.5-5v tops). They all taste great, last forver, produce tons of vapor. Here’s where it gets weird.

I tried the clear wrapped on the same equipment as I mentioned above, using the same juices. The first one I used was good for 2 or 3 puffs, then immediately gave off a nasty burnt/dry filler taste. Another interesting thing, which I will try my best to explain properly, is that after a few seconds of igniting the cartomizer, the sound (or pitch/whistle) of the cartomizer would change. As well, when taking my finger off of the manual button, the cartomizer would stay ignited for an extra ½ second or so. I dismissed this as being a dud or a faulty cartomizer (it happens). So I tried a second clear wrapped. This one tasted fine, lasted a week, no problems. But, since then, I’ve tried several more clear wrapped, and they’re all having the same exact problem as that horrible first one I tried.

I haven’t tried to dissect any of them to see what’s going on inside, but it seems strange to me that all of these clear wrapped ones (with the exception of one) have this happening to them, whereas none of the green wrapped ones did. Does what I explain sound like it’s a result of poor craftsmanship? Or perhaps this sounds like a symptom of the ohms being even lower on the clear wrapped? (I tested a number of the clear wrapped and green wrapped, and all came out to around 1.8 ohm). Is this what happens to a carto that “burns out” right away if too much power is being supplied to it? I’ve used tons of different cartos, and have run into different problems in the past, but never one like this, or so specific. Could anyone possibly shed some light? Thanks in advance and sorry for the essay!!

I have the exact same observations!! I thought I was nuts!!! My hubby likes the clear plastic ones (but I don't think his tastebuds work) and I've been worried to death he's actually vaping burnt stuffing!!

I ONLY vape on the green plastic covered ones. And I know two vendors that sell those ;-) Sadly, before I figured this out, I bought 80 of the bad ones

 

[jlazarus]

The ones I have from CCV are also in my "bad" pile Hate them...Even though they are "Ressurrectors" they are just like the other 80 I bought from somewhere else that also always seem burned/dry (no matter how I fill) and Yes, no snap, crackle pop and airy (that's how I found this thread: Searching for "snap crackle pop" versus "airy".

 

[ditc]

good to know i'm not nuts either! i wonder what the heck could make this happen with the clear ones? after i made my initial post here, i reached out to a smok tech sales rep thru their site. they confirmed with me that they sell and ship their 1.7's in both clear packaging and the green packaging. my only guess is that the clear packaging ones are from a different "lot" than the green packaging ones, and perhaps there are a number of duds that were in that particular lot. i am hesitant to try any more because ones that airiness starts, and the snap crackle pop disappears, that burnt taste is there for good and nothing can salvage it. it's almost like the carto shorts out right after being puffed on a couple of times.. by the way jlazarus,, what equipment were you vaping these on? does your hubby vape them on different equipment? do his just not burn, or do they burn, and he just can't taste it?

The ones I have from CCV are also in my "bad" pile Hate them...Even though they are "Ressurrectors" they are just like the other 80 I bought from somewhere else that also always seem burned/dry (no matter how I fill) and Yes, no snap, crackle pop and airy (that's how I found this thread: Searching for "snap crackle pop" versus "airy".

 

[gamedemon]

Same issue here. I used to order them and they came in green packaging... My first order with the clear was terrible, burnt after a couple of hits... I returned them to CCV and go another batch that was the clear packaging... Same problem... I switched to Boge LR..

 

[jlazarus]

I have a Riva and he has a KGO (so basically the same thing). The cartos from the clear package taste burnt/airy/dry to me no matter which PV is being used (I've tested on both) these cartos seem to also get really hot which makes the juice not very flavorful at all).

The reasons I think he likes them are:

1.) They were the first cartos he tried - he about coughed up a lung but then quickly adapted

2.) His taste buds are VERY "dim" - he says NOTHING has flavor so I finally bought him some atomic cinnamacide from TV - THAT he can taste, lol - but interestingly, he says he tastes it at the back of his throat, not his tongue (taste buds not working well yet)

3.) I think he mistakes that somewhat hot/dry/airy/burnt taste for throat hit! Hence why he "likes" these cartos.

 

[stephpd]

Can't remember what the color of the wrapping was when I got them. I do remember some cartos being in green wrapping but I think they were EMDCC's. Everything I get comes out of the boxes and wrappers and tossed into tupperware.

The ones I got were from CCV and are easy to see with their own label on the cartos. All but one have been excellent, so far. I actually like that they take less of a pull, 'airy'(?) and certainly they have a hotter feel to them (TH). And they all crackle and pop except for the one.

That 'one' still fires but not nearly the smoke, TH or flavor (harder to draw too). I couldn't even tell you if it came out of the same box, since I got the 15 for ~$20 and mixed them all together.

Haven't bought any from other vendors since I'm real happy with the ones I've gotten and will get more from the same company if and when these die. For being disposable I've been using these same 5 for 2 weeks and they work as well as the day I've bought them. I top them off each day and change up for different flavors throughout the day. (except for the 'one'. Just trying to get it near empty and give it a good cleaning before tossing it back into the pile.) Probably will mark it for future reference.

 

[NestoChe]

Same here, I got them from CCV, clear plastic wraping and clear, steel and black carto style. Now I'm wondering if I should return them for the Boge LR's. No problems with those...Crap, this is not good, I brought the 15 pack sale. I knew I should have stuck with what works.

Does CCV accept returns for the Boge's? I'm going to email them.

 

[ditc]

nestoche, yours may be completely fine. for the record, CCV adopted the name Resurrector for their 1.7 ohm smok tech cartos. The cartos that I got from CCV have been flawless, and all worked perfectly. I only used the name resurrector in the thread title because a lot of people have become familiar with these 1.7 ohm cartos only knowing them as "the resurrector'. when these things work, there's nothing better. I have only had problems with the clear packaging ones, and they did NOT come from CCV, although jlazarus reported that the ones she got from CCV are in her "bad pile" as well. i'm guessing there was a bad batch made from smok tech and they happen to all be wrapped in the clear plastic. doesn't necessarily mean that all of them in clear plastic are bad... although, i wish i could get my hands on more of the green plastic wrapped ones! haha

 

[madjack]

..as a big time fan of this carto, and all bought from CCV, this is my take...I have bought 60 of these...the first 30 were in the green packing and the second 30 were in the clear...of the first 30, I had one, which would not hold juice...fill it, and it would run out the bottom...just tossed it and all the rest worked to perfection, lasting nearly a week, vaping 4-5ml/day...

...when I went to re-order, CCV was out and waiting for Smok-Tek to produce and ship more(Smok-Tec was out of stock itself)...when I got my new order of 30, they were in the clear plastic, the filler didn't seem to come up quite as far as the green wrapped...we have gone thru 10 of that 30 and 2 of them, exhibited the performance issues noted by the OP...the "snap&crackle" seems somewhat(just a little) muted...the "airyness" seems about the same(maybe just a tad moreso)...those couple didn't last as long either because, the taste was just "off' or somewhat burnt tasting after a couple of days(just on the 2 so far which were not good).....

What I am thinking right now is the possibility, Smok-Tek, in their hurry to fill orders may have rushed product out with some of that well know quality control from Chinese manufacturers...the thing that actually bothers me, I have been on the Smok-Tek website and do not see the 1.7 single coil XL cartomizers listed at all...most all the cartos listed are dual coils and for myself personally, I find the dual coils to be too cool on 3.7v gear...hmmmm do I see an excuse for a VV or HV upgrade in the furture.....
madjack

p.s. we are using these on Rivas and an E-Power...............mj

 

[NestoChe]

nestoche, yours may be completely fine. for the record, CCV adopted the name Resurrector for their 1.7 ohm smok tech cartos. The cartos that I got from CCV have been flawless, and all worked perfectly. I only used the name resurrector in the thread title because a lot of people have become familiar with these 1.7 ohm cartos only knowing them as "the resurrector'. when these things work, there's nothing better. I have only had problems with the clear packaging ones, and they did NOT come from CCV, although jlazarus reported that the ones she got from CCV are in her "bad pile" as well. i'm guessing there was a bad batch made from smok tech and they happen to all be wrapped in the clear plastic. doesn't necessarily mean that all of them in clear plastic are bad... although, i wish i could get my hands on more of the green plastic wrapped ones! haha

Hi ditc,

I already contacted CCV and they are willing to exchange them for the Boge LR's. I'm not going to go take a chance with the batch I have with the Resurrectors with some good and some bad. Something is clearly not right. I can tell the difference. My Boge's have been great about 98% of the time These Resurrectors I'm not trusting right now, maybe when I see they are ok, maybe. Right now...no.

Peace

 

[Teddy Hutchins]

same problem as op I got a 5 pack from ccv and was in the clear packs. 4 work flawless 1 has that burnt waffle taste even if i overfill then blowit out the same. washed it also. no luck. maybe ill rip it aprt.

 

[wyojoe]

I use the resurrectors on a E-power in a tank. I ordered 15 and have only used 2 so far and both worked great. They are in a clear wrapper and I hope I don't run into bad ones. They last so long in a tank that it will take a long time to find out if I have any bad ones. I hope all goes well.

 

[ditc]

hey nestoche,, glad they are willing to help you out.. by the way,,, did ccv mention whether other people have had similar complaints? also, did you try any of the 1.7's you got from them, and experience the same thing as me? or are you just afraid they'll be like my experience? i'm just curious to see how many of "us" there are out there. haha.. thanks!

Hi ditc,

I already contacted CCV and they are willing to exchange them for the Boge LR's. I'm not going to go take a chance with the batch I have with the Resurrectors with some good and some bad. Something is clearly not right. I can tell the difference. My Boge's have been great about 98% of the time These Resurrectors I'm not trusting right now, maybe when I see they are ok, maybe. Right now...no.

Peace

 

[Tersur]

My only purchase of 1.7s Came in clear and i hated them. Would not hold juice. I kept getting a hit every 3rd or 4th that i can only discribe as very "wet" that would make me cough. I may have to give them another look if the quality issue gets looked at.