Smoking Cessation or Alternative?

[Janetda]

I’m curious, do you plan to use e-cigs on your path to completely stopping or are you happy vaping away with no plans to quit?

I personally, have no intention of quitting. I really, really like vaping. So all this legalese about pv’s being a smoking cessation product is meaningless to me. For me, this is an alternative smoke, a choice like choosing a different brand. My “intended use” is the same as a regular cigarette, what’s yours?

(thanks Kent, I fixed the typo)

 

[Kent C]

I’m curious, do you plan to use e-cigs on your path to completely stopping or are you happy vaping away with no plans to quit?

I personally, have to intention of quitting. I really, really like vaping. So all this legalese about pv’s being a smoking cessation product is meaningless to me. For me, this is an alternative smoke, a choice like choosing a different brand. My “intended use” is the same as a regular cigarette, what’s yours?

I assume a typo there in "have to intention of quitting" but I have no intention to quit vaping. I will experiment on lower nicotine content although I agree with the studies that have shown it to be an anti-Alzheimer's and anti-Parkinson's substance so I may stay at 6 or 11mg juice.

 

[framitz]

I vape as an alternate method of getting my nic fix. A side effect is that I don't desire to smoke analogs anymore. I have no plans to stop vaping.

 

[ravengrim]

I never intend to quit.Even if I'm forced to make everything myself.For the first time in 20+ years I finally feel better.I can breathe and smell again.

 

[Applejackson]

I give this same explanation. I don't look at it as quitting smoking, just an alternative like a pipe or cigar instead of a cig. Just happens to be safer. If it were just as bad, I'd still prefer it.

 

[beckah54]

I must say I have never enjoyed analogs as much as I love ecigs. All the flavors, wow!!
I don't think I'm getting as much nicotine but it's enough to keep me vaping.

 

[Sharky]

I have no intention of quitting vaping. A great side effect is that I no longer smoke analogs.

 

[Kent C]

If it were just as bad, I'd still prefer it.

Hadn't looked at that but I think I agree. I always wanted 'my brand' when I smoked but I like the variety of the flavors here. And the gadgets...

 

[Janetda]

I find it interesting that so far anyway, most vapers responding to poll do not think of the e-cig as a cessation device.

 

[jennyhadadot]

I enjoy vaping, much more so than I ever enjoyed cigarettes. I think it is the great flavors. But...eventually, I'd like to stop vaping or at least go down to 0 nic. I'm at 12 nic now after just a few weeks so 0 nic isn't that hard to imagine. Perhaps after going down to 0 nic, I'll be able to vape when I want to and not have to NEED to, does that make sense???

 

[Moonflame]

I looked at it as a cheaper alternative to smoking. Like when I switched from Va Slims to Misty's a few years ago (before they decided to make Misty's a premium rather than generic brand). I loved smoking, but vaping is so much better. It tastes better and it smells better. It just so happens that I also have the side effect of not wanting analogs anymore and that I feel better than I have in years. After seeing the FDA report I know that these are safer than analogs, but even if they were equally bad I'd still Vape instead.

 

[Moonbeat]

I voted the latter..I plan to continue vaping. However I DO plan to wean myself off nicotine entirely.

 

[OutWest]

I should eventually quit the nicotine. But for now I have no plans to nor any desire to.

 

[gashin]

It's an alternative right now - until I finish school .

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Great thread to start guys when we are in Court right now batteling for our life over the issue of "intended use" and arguing that the e-cig is an alternative and not an NRT that would put the e-cig right in the hands of the FDA's jurisdiction.

Make sense?

Sun

 

[Janetda]

To tell the thruth, I've read the entire lawsuite thread and I'm confused as hell. That's not to say that I don't really appreciate the amount of time and effort you've put into keeping us all updated. But correct me if I'm wrong Sun, if it's an NRT it falls under FDA and will have to go through all the testing, etc. necessary for FDA approval. Now that tobacco falls to them, no matter which way we turn the FDA has the say. I think the point may be that it is NOT an NRT, the FDA's own data shows that it has components of tobacco and IMHO, shouldn't be allowed to be banned for that reason. The end user is simply using it as another "brand" of cigarette, it's just new and improved, like so many that have come before.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Janet--I understand what you are saying, but that is not how "intended use" is defined. The e-cig has nothing to do with tobacco--I know it is diffucult to understand how tobacco has been treated when it comes to regulation or rather lack thereof---that is because of a 1930's Statute that clearly stated that their shall be no regulation of tobacco. The statute is a Federal one and was put into place to protect the argiculture industry which, back then, was a major economic commerce---more so then the entire electronics industy today.

It was intended to protect the harvest and commerce of traditional tobacco products. The e-cig is not a new and improved tobacco, rather a new way to deliver nicotine. That is why nicotine water could not bypass the FDA---and nicotine water actually had shavings of tobacco in the product. So to poll people here is really falling right into the trapings of what the FDA wants. The FDA argues that the e-cig is a medical drug deliver device and drug combination.

So we do not get to pick and choose the "intended use"--the FDA derives it though an objective standard of actually looking at how the product will be used, and not how it is marketed to be used or even stated-----rather it is what is the most likey outcome for the consumption of the product.

Sun

 

[Janetda]

Oh I've got so much to say on this subject I could type all night. But I'd rather not be considered a crazy ranter and I don't really think any arguments we have on this board will have any effect other than to make us look like the lunatic fringe. I actually started the poll just because I was curious and thought it might be fun to know. Nothing more. Frankly, the FDA is going to do what they want. Some piss-ant little poll on a board isn't going to make one little bit of difference.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Janet--You are by no means 'crazy" or a "ranter", to the contrary --the FDA is unreasable at best.--I too would like to see the results of this poll very much. It is a shame that we have to watch what we "call" these devices or what we ""use" them for--the FDA is not acting in our best interest by any means---they often do not. And we are a very small minority--be it a smoker or a vaporer. I can not even say it is "healther" for me without putting my foot in my mouth as "that would be a health claim" and immediatly trigger FDA regulation. (but I would like to see NJOY's report and others to confirm just how safe the e-cig is).

The manufactures of e-cigs put us in a real bad position here and to think that SE, who has the nerve to charge 150 dollars for an e-cig could not even pony up some money for studies??? I guess that was expecting too much from them???


Sun

 

[ashdaburned]

So we do not get to pick and choose the "intended use"--the FDA derives it though an objective standard of actually looking at how the product will be used, and not how it is marketed to be used or even stated-----rather it is what is the most likey outcome for the consumption of the product.

By that reasoning if smarty smoking becomes a Big thing they will ban it as well, becuase the intended use has changed? even though the company that makes them isn't making them for that? Will they make sweet tarts an adult only item?
How to smoke SMARTIES

EDIT* OMG I FORGOT. WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS. We need to ban smarties becuase they will get children to start really smoking. Talk about candy flavors LOL.

EDIT AGAIN* woops, forgot to say i voted alternative.