My troop still does. I got my eagle in 2004. Even to this day women aren't even allowed to go camping with the boys. Atleast in our town it's still a balls to the wall, hell we even have one campout a year just for the boys and adults to compete in archery and shotgun. I guess It all depends where you live. I'm still technically in redneck territory I guess that's why.
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My troop still does. I got my eagle in 2004. Even to this day women aren't even allowed to go camping with the boys. Atleast in our town it's still a balls to the wall, hell we even have one campout a year just for the boys and adults to compete in archery and shotgun. I guess It all depends where you live. I'm still technically in redneck territory I guess that's why.
Territoo-----Judge Leon has is own agenda right here in the US. Did you see how fast he allowed ASH's Motion for Leave to File their Brief----the same day. Meanwhile the Alliance filing is still sitting there waiting for Leave.
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None. The UK does not mean a thing to the US Government anymore.
If your President carries on as he started, insulting our Prime Minister, insulting The Queen and insulting Scotland our Countries may not even be "allies" by next year. My opinion. Off Topic.
well that makes me very happy to hear, this is coming from when I was living in UT. It might have just been the scout master, he was die hard mormon, and possibly a homosexual. But I have heard from other people that it has gotten increasingly lamer.
sorry completely off topic =]
Agree completely. Unleaded gasoline contains benzene, which causes leukemia. And the benzene does not get completely burned by the car, which means it's also in the exhaust. When they took the lead out, they had to replace it with something to keep the octane levels up and they, in their infiinite wisdom, decided to use benzene.
Sun, can I ask why you are convinced there is a decision pending this week? Just because of the time involved so far?
Well, if the Universe continues on it's current path....the decision will be reached today. I just wired a buttload of money to China.
Well, if the Universe continues on it's current path....the decision will be reached today. I just wired a buttload of money to China.
Inch---I say that because there has been plenty of time that has lapsed since SE filed its motion clearly laying out that they can not continue and will go bankrupt without relief of the Prelimary Injunction. Remember that the request for a Temporary Restraning Order was dumped into the Preliminary Injuction. So SE is deserving of a ruling.
Does that mean the Judge Leon is going to rule against SE---not necessarily by any means. I just took a look over at Ash's website, that has been patting themselves on the back with all the damage they have done to e-cigs. But now in the last week---nothing really. What does that say--maybe nothing, but with the ego's they have over at Ash, it makes me wonder why their ranting is not continuing. Again, it might mean nothing but I thought I would mention it.
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Im sure just as we are sitting on edge, waiting hoping, they are sitting there (ash, fda, etc.) wondering whats taking so long as well, Im sure they think its a no brainer, which is an easy stance to take when you have no brains, (ash really pisses me off)
You've been paying attention a lot longer than I have been...so your thoughts on this are a good counterpoint to the news articles. Figured it was time to fish or cut bait. If I lose it, it's not going to be a life changing loss...had to jump. Been waiting on this decision for months, it could take months more.
The silence makes me think that a deal is being worked out...whether it's between the FDA and SE, or the manufacturers in China...something's going on behind the scenes. Just hope they don't cut nicotine levels down to 4mg/ml in an attempt to price fix the product closer to cigarette costs.
I love these things...and I know a lot of people that will too. I'm moving forward. To hell with the FDA's delay-delay-delay. Black market prices on 510 starter kits are going to be astronomical. Gonna get all I need before that's even a possibility.
The silence makes me think that a deal is being worked out...whether it's between the FDA and SE, or the manufacturers in China...something's going on behind the scenes. Just hope they don't cut nicotine levels down to 4mg/ml in an attempt to price fix the product closer to cigarette costs.
I love these things...and I know a lot of people that will too. I'm moving forward. To hell with the FDA's delay-delay-delay. Black market prices on 510 starter kits are going to be astronomical. Gonna get all I need before that's even a possibility.
Flash vaping is not a bad idea at all. A great way to educate folks about it. And you're right, lots of youtube videos... especially if we did some choreography by synching everyone's motions. HA!
Anyways, they will be able to see first hand that a mass of people can vape around you without smelling a thing (cept maybe my fierce pineapple flavor). It might even stir up some media attention... hmm... we would def stir up media attention if we flash vaped naked... call it FLESH vaping...
+1 for FLESH VAPING! had to add it.
usually when it takes time the ruling is against the defendant. most cases where they decide in favor of the defendant are ruled in a short amount of time
Aught to be interesting. The day a ruling is made, Sun Vaporer will be taking a lot of time reading it.
So, his lack of response yet could indicate something came down the pike.
And I don't feel it will be siding for SE.
if there is a ruling i think legal one will tell us about it before sun will
This is making me a nervous, angry wreck.
I would think if the issue were crystal clear -- if the FDA acted properly -- that the decision would have been a quick one. Ha. It's been dragging on for five months. At least that has given me some hope that everything is not crystal clear, that it's not just either tobacco or drug product. Flip a coin if that's the case! Heads, FDA wins. Tails, FDA wins.
But at least we'll know where we stand legally.
I would think if the issue were crystal clear -- if the FDA acted properly -- that the decision would have been a quick one. Ha. It's been dragging on for five months. At least that has given me some hope that everything is not crystal clear, that it's not just either tobacco or drug product. Flip a coin if that's the case! Heads, FDA wins. Tails, FDA wins.
But at least we'll know where we stand legally.
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