Smoking NV first day (mini review)

[WolfeReign]

Greetings and Salutations from Winnipeg. First off, i wish i could tell you fancy things about what i will discuss here, but i cannot. Still being a n00b, i dropped out of the forum, as i did indeed have the FUUMA E-cig (shipped form the usa to me). Second i have searched the sites over and never noticed a real review of it, only people saying they loved it, so i thought i would offer up my 10 cents and tell you what i think.
I will say quickly that being a Canadian who is a very heavy smoker (i can smoke two packs of McDonald A green pack, or Players non-filter easy, or two packs a day of Camel unfiltered and it would not bother me in the least), the FUUMA was very week, and after a week with it, turned out to be a epic fail and shelved. Mostly due to it not working and due to the fact i think i had a small allergy to the GP in it.

Now i understand there is different vapors out there for different people. Tell you the truth, i happen to like this one that looks like a smoke, and that i do not have to tinker with juices. Do not get me wrong, as there are different one's out there to satisfy what people like. By writing this, i am hoping it helps people a bit more who are curious about it, and note that i am not a reseller, nor do i get commission or have a vested interest with this company.
I am not sure but the packaging says all Canisters are made with Vegitable Glycerin, Water, Artifical flavors (like Vanilla)

~UNBOXING~

In a perfect world i could point you to a youtube video, but seeing as i was not thinking, and only had my tablet on hand, i did take screen shots to show my un-boxing in a chronological order. Aside from the silly paper sleeve the box goes inside, it would seem that the company was thinking about packaging and it's carbon foot print on the earth (so it would seem). Which is unique as in this day and age everything from McDonalds to Chevy seems to want to waste packaging and packaging space. The membership card (as i just looked at mine) says on the front: Smoke NV Club Member card then repeats the same thing in french. on the back however in English and french states what it is, and how it is not restricted to the non smoking laws (aces to me. seeing as i am 39 with long hair, the security boys love to tail me in Portage Place Mall and City Center....i want to give them something to do a proverbial slap in the face now.....library too =)) yeah i know that was mean to say sorry, i could not resist). You go get 3 Canisters of Canadian Flavor tobacco, the batter, a small pamplet on what it is and how to use, then the usb and wall charger. That is it in a nut shell.
please note that i did get the separate spare battery and pack of coffee flavored canisters

~Flavors~

As stated above, it comes with 3 Canadian Flavor canisters. Refills are Available in: Canadian, American, Menthol, Coffee, Chocolate, Apple, Pear. I have tried the Canadian and the Coffee. My thoughts? Lord love a duck......
-The Canadian flavor taste's like Chocolate mixed with coffee and a hint of vanilla. I thought this was a bit odd, but seeing as it was listed to have been made by physicians, who was i to complain? At some point and time i am sure one of them smoked....It is not foul. it is just different to experience is all.

WRONG must have been guessing I stand corrected. About a hour after this post was up, my coffee canister ran out. So i switched to the Canadian flavor. Now either it is a fully charged battery, or it was just a bad batch i got no clue. Much more enjoyable

-The Coffee There is a running joke about my wife's mouth being violated when she tried my overly strong coffee i make. This was my payback from years before.....or at least my first reaction to it wanted me to lick the shower tile. At first it tasted like Coffee crisp that had gone 3 years past the expiration date then cooked. Once that taste left, i was left with 2 week old trucker coffee......Now keep in mind this could be only my reactions as this is literally my first time trying a Canadian e-cig

~Over all Experience~

Seeing as when i post this i have literally had it for about 30+ hours, i guess it is not that bad. When i went to get it yesterday, the guy took his time to answer my questions, and even let me read the package. We talked for a bit about how much i was smoking and spending and he talked to me about how much it would cost and if my usual brand of smoke would be better off in the long run. My traditional brand is no longer a consideration due to matter at hand, so though my mind was set, i did appreciate the time to talk to see if maybe another e-cig out there would match me better, if at all a e-cig was the way to go.
When everything was said and done, and before i left for home, he put a canister on the battery and thought there were people around watching, he asked me to take a puff. I felt like a kid and embarrassed honestly. I mean here i was in a building that did NOT allow smoking, and i was about to....yeah in my mind have a puff on a smoke.
He did take the time to tell me about the package and where the battery was, and even told me that the batteries came about 30% charged and i was to use them, drain them then charge them. This IMO is awesome! First: who wants to wait to get home to charge the battery then try it? It is a new toy, you want it NOW!. Second and (i hope this is it) the sense to per-charged is you get a chance to see how you are going to use it, how will you work with it, and it with you. For us n00b's this is very important! Who likes the idea of waiting to charge your new toy, to have to waste a fully charged battery trying to figure out on how to use it?
Everything i read on this says you can get about 50 to 60 smokes worth out of it, so about 2 to 2 1/2 packs of smokes. But lets face it: The way i use it could mean i get a pack out of it, while if you use it you get 4 packs.
The battery is supposed to last a year, so i am not sure if this is true. Nor Do i know how long a fully charged battery lasts. Before i charged the batteries i have the white one lasted me about 7 hours (and this was on a supposed 30% charge), the black battery came in at about 4 hours (on a supposed 30% charge). I will be updating these times as both batteries are now fully charged (and i am using one as i type this)

The web site is Smoke NV Inc
i did notice that it says on the web site you can now get them at London drugs, someone on the boards said they can be seen in grocery marts and i think a few people said 7 11's have them too (though i will be checking one out downtown to see if i can see what they have to offer again when it was reported it was there, there was no reviews written)...bear in mind on the site it says resellers could sell at different (higher or lower) prices.

I honestly hope this offers somewhat of a first review on the Smoking NV so as the board now has one

 

[wood]

no nicotine yuck

 

[WolfeReign]

you know i thought about the whole no nic as yuck, but then logic hit me. If you are using this as a safe alternative, why is it so highly important about the nic? Second: And this is a question i put out there after i thought about the government, and how i used to work for them years ago: It is illegal for a company to PROMOTE something with nic in it correct? I find it hard for people to use this one (or similar) and go cold turkey on analogue smokes. I mean sure the Smoke NV says it satisfies the "physical" need for a smoke, when it was proven years ago when you have a smoke it is more the "chemical" satisfaction in the brain. so armed with those thoughts i would have to think there is some nic in these, but they cannot list them.

Also i know myself very well (me, myself and i grew up together =)) ) i know that when push comes to shove, unless i am sleeping (and even then i woke up to do this) i cannot go more then about 1 hr 30min without a smoke, i start hitting the withdrawls and climbing the walls. It is now 5hrs into not having any traditional cigarette (and i am doing A-OK)

 

[Mindfield]

you know i thought about the whole no nic as yuck, but then logic hit me. If you are using this as a safe alternative, why is it so highly important about the nic?

Nicotine isn't tremendously harmful, and is one of the least harmful things in tobacco cigarettes. It gives the throat hit most people crave, and of course feeds the nicotine addiction.

In terms of its effect on the body, nicotine isn't much different from caffeine.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify that yes, nicotine is an incredibly deadly toxin in concentration. But in the levels we vape it at, it's no moreso than caffeine.

Second: And this is a question i put out there after i thought about the government, and how i used to work for them years ago: It is illegal for a company to PROMOTE something with nic in it correct?

There is no law against it, but as liquid with nicotine does not have market authorization, Health Canada does have the power to issue a cease and desist order to stop vendors from selling it, or suppliers from making it.

I find it hard for people to use this one (or similar) and go cold turkey on analogue smokes. I mean sure the Smoke NV says it satisfies the "physical" need for a smoke, when it was proven years ago when you have a smoke it is more the "chemical" satisfaction in the brain. so armed with those thoughts i would have to think there is some nic in these, but they cannot list them.

I'm pretty sure there's zero nicotine in them.

Also i know myself very well (me, myself and i grew up together =)) ) i know that when push comes to shove, unless i am sleeping (and even then i woke up to do this) i cannot go more then about 1 hr 30min without a smoke, i start hitting the withdrawls and climbing the walls. It is now 5hrs into not having any traditional cigarette (and i am doing A-OK)

Funny thing about the addiction to cigarettes: The physical addiction to nicotine is actually the easiest part of the addiction to quit. The psychological addiction to the acts of smoking, and all of the triggers you have come to associate with it, are what's so hard to shake off, and why people, long, long after all of the nicotine is well gone from their system, smokers often relapse and go back to cigarettes. The psychological pull of the act of smoking and the visual and tactile cues you get from it are a far stronger draw that nicotine.

It's why gums, patches and other such NRT products barely work. They don't give you the psychological aspects of smoking that you need. E-cigs do, and that's why they do work -- and they work a lot better even without nicotine than NRT products. (But obviously better with.)

 

[Chime]

Good mini review, glad you found something that works for ya.

Now I hope you don't catch the "twofootitis" (what we used to call it refering to buying boats XD), that runs rampant around here and you end up spending hundreds and end up with 10 different devices each a little better than the last

 

[Concat]

Hey wolf, nice review.

If you find it still tough to do without smokes, try getting some nicotine juice. If you get an Ego, some 24 mg/mL juice, and some Low Resistance atomizers/cartomizers, you will truly experience what vaping is about.

There's nothing wrong with your kit per se, but considering you smoke 2 packs a day, you might need to up the stakes. Just a helpful tip.

 

[CityLights]

i can smoke two packs of McDonald A green pack, or Players non-filter easy, or two packs a day of Camel unfiltered

That's some serious throat hit and nicotine smoking right there! I'd like to see Hunting Wolf vape some Halo Torque56 and then compare it with the NV ecig's Flavour/Throat hit.

 

[smokum]

no nicotine yuck

I'm sort of in the same mindthought after years of vaping and personally still finding dropping the stinkies even with nic near impossible.

But at the same time, I'm internally rejoicing that these models (even sans nic) are hitting the shelves for the exposure aspect alone. Exposure gains acceptance in the public eye, and those who find themselves struggling will at least then go looking for answers and discover the many alternatives (both devices and nic availability), that are out there.

 

[Switched]

Although I like the idea of exposure, no nic and their prices remind me nothing more than mall kiosk peddling their junk.

 

[Mindfield]

Good mini review, glad you found something that works for ya.

Now I hope you don't catch the "twofootitis" (what we used to call it refering to buying boats XD), that runs rampant around here and you end up spending hundreds and end up with 10 different devices each a little better than the last

Apparently I have several concurrent cases of twofootitis.

And I still can't dance.

 

[Lacedolphin]

Hubby and I are 2 months in so I completely understand!

 

[siupes]

... their prices remind me nothing more than mall kiosk peddling their junk.

That exactly what it is. I know, I paid $80 for mine (single battery)
But on the flip side thanks to smoke NV I don't smoke anymore
From that point ego was another HUGE step but now lavatube for vv and reo is my all day vape

 

[MadValleyVapingMama]

Welcome to the ECF, it is a great place for support & info

 

[wood]

Although I like the idea of exposure, no nic and their prices remind me nothing more than mall kiosk peddling their junk.

i got my smoke nv at a kiosk for 80 - 90 for one battery and 5 carts
no nic
they do have nic in the uk smoke nv but here they dont , i tried to order some but they wouldnt ship it to me

 

[WolfeReign]

Nicotine isn't tremendously harmful, and is one of the least harmful things in tobacco cigarettes. It gives the throat hit most people crave, and of course feeds the nicotine addiction.

In terms of its effect on the body, nicotine isn't much different from caffeine.

EDIT: I wanted to clarify that yes, nicotine is an incredibly deadly toxin in concentration. But in the levels we vape it at, it's no moreso than caffeine.




There is no law against it, but as liquid with nicotine does not have market authorization, Health Canada does have the power to issue a cease and desist order to stop vendors from selling it, or suppliers from making it.



I'm pretty sure there's zero nicotine in them.



Funny thing about the addiction to cigarettes: The physical addiction to nicotine is actually the easiest part of the addiction to quit. The psychological addiction to the acts of smoking, and all of the triggers you have come to associate with it, are what's so hard to shake off, and why people, long, long after all of the nicotine is well gone from their system, smokers often relapse and go back to cigarettes. The psychological pull of the act of smoking and the visual and tactile cues you get from it are a far stronger draw that nicotine.

It's why gums, patches and other such NRT products barely work. They don't give you the psychological aspects of smoking that you need. E-cigs do, and that's why they do work -- and they work a lot better even without nicotine than NRT products. (But obviously better with.)

Honestly i stand corrected, and i do have a question about them, i am not sure if i should start a new thread or not, so i will ask it here. I have noticed that the NV and the FUMMA do not have any nicotine content in them. That being said, after using the FUUMA and now the NV, i have felt sick, extremely dizzy, and at times hard to breath. Yes i have put it to one side, the odd part is when i use my regular brand on analogue cigarette's, i am feeling better (yeah i know how that sounds LOL) I have noticed on the boards here that 7 11 sells the Xhale 02 with nic in them....(or so i noticed in the ads i found googling). I am just wondering if i should give it a shot and try those? I mean if it is only $20 to try.......If so then i have a FUUMA (with unused cartrages) and the NV i have to find somewhere to put up for sale =))

 

[WolfeReign]

Good mini review, glad you found something that works for ya.

Now I hope you don't catch the "twofootitis" (what we used to call it refering to buying boats XD), that runs rampant around here and you end up spending hundreds and end up with 10 different devices each a little better than the last

LOL ok, that made me have a good laugh consider i just asked a question about the XHALE 02 that seems to have some variation of nic in it compared to the ones i am using with no nic LMFAO i should have read ALL comments first

 

[WolfeReign]

Hey wolf, nice review.

If you find it still tough to do without smokes, try getting some nicotine juice. If you get an Ego, some 24 mg/mL juice, and some Low Resistance atomizers/cartomizers, you will truly experience what vaping is about.

There's nothing wrong with your kit per se, but considering you smoke 2 packs a day, you might need to up the stakes. Just a helpful tip.

I am going to try it, if it is indeed the no nic contect that is giving the ailments

 

[WolfeReign]

Although I like the idea of exposure, no nic and their prices remind me nothing more than mall kiosk peddling their junk.

at this point and time and with my first question asked i think you might be right

 

[CityLights]

after using the FUUMA and now the NV, i have felt sick, extremely dizzy, and at times hard to breath.

Some flavours may just not agree with you personally but is fine for others. I make a Blueberry liquid for friends on request every few weeks, they love it! I know the ingredients I'm using, it tastes great to me but after a minute of vaping it upsets my stomach like a flu I had as a kid. Lots of fruity flavours do that to me.

I also had some breathing distress and a very tight upper back when I first started vaping. I stopped all cigarettes and the problems went away in a few days. Every few weeks I'd cheat and try a single cigarette, the symptoms returned. Some people can smoke & vape while others can not. You've spent years pushing toxins & thick Tar in with a chronic applied exposure, it may hurt coming back out. Personally I think it's best to find a good tasting eliquid for yourself with Nicotine and switch completely. Drink lots of water while your body detoxes the tar and 4000+ chemicals you used to inhale with cigarettes.

If it's a pen style e-cig your wanting to try, The Bloog is an excellent choice. The Canadian retailer is HappyVaper.com. The top quality pen style ecigs are the Bloog, the Volt and the Halo G6. All are basically the same and equally good.

If you do try that other $20 7-11 ecig, let us know how it goes!

 

[Chime]

No idea what's in those particular carts, could be a slight reaction to PG (propylene glycol), not a big deal should pass with time.

Drink like 5x the water you usualy would as well that helps, the main component in ejuice either way you slice it is a dessicant (i.e. it dries you out) .